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TheNugeIsHuge
Edmonton Oilers
Location: McJesus, AB
Joined: 01.09.2013

Jun 14 @ 2:45 PM ET
What will the Oil give up? I may be the only Leaf fan who thinks Phanuef is a good D but has no to play with, so I hate him gone for nothing. A 20+ min a game guy who plays against top players is tough to replace. I think we need Eberle back or the 3rd overall pick. Even if we have to include other picks/players with Dion. I just hope their is a plan to replace him, cuz making Reilly our best D now is not something I look forward to as a Leaf fan
- scottiegee

TheNugeIsHuge
Edmonton Oilers
Location: McJesus, AB
Joined: 01.09.2013

Jun 14 @ 2:45 PM ET
Darnell Nurse + 3rd overall in 2014 draft for Dion Phaneuf + 8th overall in 2014 draft.

Leafs draft Sam Bennett.

- The Shrike


that's horrifyingly terrible from EDM's end
JasonDh
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 08.30.2011

Jun 14 @ 2:46 PM ET
My opinion on fair trade for both sides:

EDM: Gagner, Marincin, 2015 1st
TOR: Phaneuf (retain 1.5mm), 2014 8th overall

I would (frank)ing hoping EDM has no hopes of being as bad as they were this year (aka in the McDavid/Eichel sweeps). That team is way too loaded to continually perform this poorly. So yes, you risk that 2015 but nothing comes without risk. Dion shores up the backend and is a decent contract at 5.5mm, EDM keeps their 3rd + adds the 8th (draft a ritchie or Fleury depending on preference).

Toronto gets a good prospect in Marincin, a solid 40pt player who should only get better at the prime age of 24, and a shot at the McDavid sweeps which everybody wants.

- IggyOnly


Swap Marincin with Gernat and we have a deal
Chest Rockwell
Vancouver Canucks
Location: White Rock, BC
Joined: 08.31.2007

Jun 14 @ 2:46 PM ET
How Crap! With all the offers being thrown around; you'd think Phaneuf was Shea Weber or Drew Doughty
TheNugeIsHuge
Edmonton Oilers
Location: McJesus, AB
Joined: 01.09.2013

Jun 14 @ 2:48 PM ET
Any truth to the Luke & Brayden Schenn for Oilers 3rd pick?
- JasonDh


that's not terrible but L Schenn is an easily acquirable type of player and I think whoever they can get at 3 will be better than B Schenn
TheNugeIsHuge
Edmonton Oilers
Location: McJesus, AB
Joined: 01.09.2013

Jun 14 @ 2:49 PM ET
How Crap! With all the offers being thrown around; you'd think Phaneuf was Shea Weber or Drew Doughty
- Chest Rockwell


For some reason leafs fans consider him a top 10 D in the league
ystoil
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton
Joined: 02.26.2011

Jun 14 @ 2:49 PM ET
My opinion on fair trade for both sides:

EDM: Gagner, Marincin, 2015 1st
TOR: Phaneuf (retain 1.5mm), 2014 8th overall

I would (frank)ing hoping EDM has no hopes of being as bad as they were this year (aka in the McDavid/Eichel sweeps). That team is way too loaded to continually perform this poorly. So yes, you risk that 2015 but nothing comes without risk. Dion shores up the backend and is a decent contract at 5.5mm, EDM keeps their 3rd + adds the 8th (draft a ritchie or Fleury depending on preference).

Toronto gets a good prospect in Marincin, a solid 40pt player who should only get better at the prime age of 24, and a shot at the McDavid sweeps which everybody wants.

- IggyOnly


I actually don't hate this deal. I have time for Phaneuf at 5.5M, hate him or love him. Only issue, is we would have to have a centre lined up to replace Gagner.



LeafsFan23
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: He's big, he's bald, he's Alex Auld, ON
Joined: 07.23.2009

Jun 14 @ 2:50 PM ET
How Crap! With all the offers being thrown around; you'd think Phaneuf was Shea Weber or Drew Doughty
- Chest Rockwell


Hey dont insult the guy! His value isnt as low as both of those guys!!
vancouverdawg
Vancouver Canucks
Location: vancouver, BC
Joined: 12.06.2008

Jun 14 @ 2:50 PM ET
For some reason leafs fans consider him a top 10 D in the league
- TheNugeIsHuge

We know.

HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Jun 14 @ 2:50 PM ET
Darnell Nurse + 3rd overall in 2014 draft for Dion Phaneuf + 8th overall in 2014 draft.

Leafs draft Sam Bennett.

- The Shrike

the dion hate has gotten way outta hand.
any oiler fan who says he wouldn't greatly help our joke of a defence is on drugs imo. he's a solid #2 and a true top pairing guy. we don't have one of those.
and couple that with how rare top pairing guys get made available.

niskanen might get 6 mil for eff sakes. stralman might get 4+.


but I will say his contract is a minus and tough to swallow for 7 years. this is a negative for sure.

and there is zero chance the oilers are giving up their bluechip best defensive prospect in nurse for any dman not named weber or doughty etc.

however, I do think the 3rd overall could be part of the deal, but id assume the 8th would be coming back with dion. (we'd be adding something as well of course)
additions one way or another I suppose, but I could see one or more of gagner, marincin, klefbom, 3rd overall, 2015 1st, gernat as the pieces going your way in a deal.
IggyOnly
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 12.01.2006

Jun 14 @ 2:51 PM ET
Swap Marincin with Gernat and we have a deal
- JasonDh


It's gotta be Klefbom or Marincin. I thought Oilers fans valued Klef more than marincin. Pick your posion, swapping that player out for Gernat is bullpoop deal for Leafs tho. Reality is, no deal should be an obvious win for one side. I think it's a balanced deal with risk-reward on both sides.
Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.03.2013

Jun 14 @ 2:51 PM ET
Darnell Nurse + 3rd overall in 2014 draft for Dion Phaneuf + 8th overall in 2014 draft.

Leafs draft Sam Bennett.

- The Shrike

Nope.
IggyOnly
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 12.01.2006

Jun 14 @ 2:51 PM ET
I actually don't hate this deal. I have time for Phaneuf at 5.5M, hate him or love him. Only issue, is we would have to have a centre lined up to replace Gagner.
- ystoil


Draft one with your #3 pick. I.e. Bennett, Draisatl (probably best fit) or Reinhart.
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011

Jun 14 @ 2:52 PM ET
How Crap! With all the offers being thrown around; you'd think Phaneuf was Shea Weber or Drew Doughty
- Chest Rockwell

Or Hal Gill
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011

Jun 14 @ 2:53 PM ET
For some reason leafs fans consider him a top 10 D in the league
- TheNugeIsHuge

Have you been on the Leafs board? People (frank)ing hate Phaneuf. For every 1 person saying they like him, there's 10 saying trade him for Matt Stajan
nbboy
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.05.2010

Jun 14 @ 2:53 PM ET
How Crap! With all the offers being thrown around; you'd think Phaneuf was Shea Weber or Drew Doughty
- Chest Rockwell

NO us Leaf fans think Dion is wayyyy better then those two!!
jake24242
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: waterloo, ON
Joined: 01.25.2010

Jun 14 @ 2:54 PM ET
No one.

Only way Oilers would trade for Phanuef is for Gagner. They would be absolutely crazy to trade anything else.

Leafs move their bad contract ,Oilers move theirs.

Anything else is nonsense and will not happen

- vancouverdawg


Then we keep dion simple it will cost more then cap dump player. The rumor is they are making an offer leafs can refuse so it's not just gagne. We have Kadri who is better.
ystoil
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton
Joined: 02.26.2011

Jun 14 @ 2:54 PM ET
Draft one with your #3 pick. I.e. Bennett, Draisatl (probably best fit) or Reinhart.
- IggyOnly


I want Draisaitl but I'd prefer whoever we draft be back in JR. So we would need a stop gap.
vancouverdawg
Vancouver Canucks
Location: vancouver, BC
Joined: 12.06.2008

Jun 14 @ 2:55 PM ET
Then we keep dion simple it will cost more then cap dump player. The rumor is they are making an offer leafs can refuse so it's not just gagne. We have Kadri who is better.
- jake24242

Is thought you guys are moving Kadri too? last I heard it was Kadri for Bieksa and 6 th overall.
Flyfreaky
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.20.2011

Jun 14 @ 2:55 PM ET
that's not terrible but L Schenn is an easily acquirable type of player and I think whoever they can get at 3 will be better than B Schenn
- TheNugeIsHuge

how dare you
Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.03.2013

Jun 14 @ 2:55 PM ET
To Edmonton:

Phaneuf
#8
Reimer
Franson
Prospect

To Leafs:
#3
Gagner
Fasth

- DougGilmour_93


No goalie swap and I would be okay with that.
Flyfreaky
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.20.2011

Jun 14 @ 2:57 PM ET
No goalie swap and I would be okay with that.
- Jeropotato

the prospect is rielly
Oilfan19
Edmonton Oilers
Location: "Hodgson is a future #1C" - hanleyaj, AB
Joined: 02.16.2012

Jun 14 @ 2:57 PM ET
My opinion on fair trade for both sides:

EDM: Gagner, Marincin, 2015 1st
TOR: Phaneuf (retain 1.5mm), 2014 8th overall

I would (frank)ing hoping EDM has no hopes of being as bad as they were this year (aka in the McDavid/Eichel sweeps). That team is way too loaded to continually perform this poorly. So yes, you risk that 2015 but nothing comes without risk. Dion shores up the backend and is a decent contract at 5.5mm, EDM keeps their 3rd + adds the 8th (draft a ritchie or Fleury depending on preference).

Toronto gets a good prospect in Marincin, a solid 40pt player who should only get better at the prime age of 24, and a shot at the McDavid sweeps which everybody wants.

- IggyOnly

Not bad
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011

Jun 14 @ 2:57 PM ET
the prospect is rielly
- Flyfreaky

He's poop
nbboy
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.05.2010

Jun 14 @ 2:58 PM ET
Is thought you guys are moving Kadri too? last I heard it was Kadri for Bieksa and 6 th overall.
- vancouverdawg

Hmmm thats funny,i have never heard anything like that!!

I think youre grabbing at straws now!!
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