you ain't too bright huh
- Mr_Smokey

If I am not so bright then why they he'll are you trying to supposedly move a Dman of his caliber for a # 3 pick in a weak draft?

Explain please?

will be interesting to see what Linden does in Vancouver.

In my Opinion, Vancouver is the team that most need to change it's
roster over...
- aries1976

You are preaching to the choir. I think Vancouver had one of the worst teams last year.

LOL HAHAHAHAHAHA overrate your players much.
- Jammerz04

Run along now troll I think Grigerenko is on the verge of becoming the next Malkin... That deal is terrible for the leafs.

Nope.

Agreed. I don't think Phaneuf is the best option or the only option for the Oil, nor do I actually believe the Leafs want to move him.
- Jeropotato

Tough Call for Oil management. majority of higher named D-man have some sort of NMC or NTC built into there contract, and if the past is any indication, how many of them would be willing to go to Edmonton? Tough call.

Being a team with potential only means something to the fans, and I think the Oilers have been labeled that way for 5 years now, with minimal improvement over those 5 years... what can the Oil do next?.... if a D-man like Phaneuf comes available and can be acquired without the consent of a trade, management has to consider all routes...

is Phaneuf a top 20 d-man in the NHL, that's debatable, some will say Yes, some will say No... is he a top 20 offensive D-man, if you go by Points, then yes... is he a top 20 defensively, easy answer is No.... but in Fairness to Phaneuf, he played very tough minutes this year and ran out of steam, ideal situation for him is top 2 minutes for offense, and middle 2 pairing on defense, he shouldn't be thee shut down guy, but able enough to take that role from time to time, he did it well for the first 60 games....

as a leaf fan, I expect Shanny/Nonis to do a few things this off-season, Shanny has to put his imprint early in his reign, especially to please a very picky fan base.

What are you talking about, the team in Ottawa is in great shape.........




- sensarmy_11

Best owner in pro sports Charles wang is second best

- Jeropotato

....... good luck with that.

Tough Call for Oil management. majority of higher named D-man have some sort of NMC or NTC built into there contract, and if the past is any indication, how many of them would be willing to go to Edmonton? Tough call.

Being a team with potential only means something to the fans, and I think the Oilers have been labeled that way for 5 years now, with minimal improvement over those 5 years... what can the Oil do next?.... if a D-man like Phaneuf comes available and can be acquired without the consent of a trade, management has to consider all routes...

is Phaneuf a top 20 d-man in the NHL, that's debatable, some will say Yes, some will say No... is he a top 20 offensive D-man, if you go by Points, then yes... is he a top 20 defensively, easy answer is No.... but in Fairness to Phaneuf, he played very tough minutes this year and ran out of steam, ideal situation for him is top 2 minutes for offense, and middle 2 pairing on defense, he shouldn't be thee shut down guy, but able enough to take that role from time to time, he did it well for the first 60 games....

as a leaf fan, I expect Shanny/Nonis to do a few things this off-season, Shanny has to put his imprint early in his reign, especially to please a very picky fan base.
- aries1976

Big splashes are harder to do these days . Fan bases can hope and fantasize but most GMs now know draft good and develop.

Best owner in pro sports Charles wang is second best
- todd1a

Melnyk is in the process of building a dynasty in Ottawa, just wait in see...
Haters gon' hate.

Tough Call for Oil management. majority of higher named D-man have some sort of NMC or NTC built into there contract, and if the past is any indication, how many of them would be willing to go to Edmonton? Tough call.

Being a team with potential only means something to the fans, and I think the Oilers have been labeled that way for 5 years now, with minimal improvement over those 5 years... what can the Oil do next?.... if a D-man like Phaneuf comes available and can be acquired without the consent of a trade, management has to consider all routes...

is Phaneuf a top 20 d-man in the NHL, that's debatable, some will say Yes, some will say No... is he a top 20 offensive D-man, if you go by Points, then yes... is he a top 20 defensively, easy answer is No.... but in Fairness to Phaneuf, he played very tough minutes this year and ran out of steam, ideal situation for him is top 2 minutes for offense, and middle 2 pairing on defense, he shouldn't be thee shut down guy, but able enough to take that role from time to time, he did it well for the first 60 games....

as a leaf fan, I expect Shanny/Nonis to do a few things this off-season, Shanny has to put his imprint early in his reign, especially to please a very picky fan base.
- aries1976

The latest rumour out of Edmonton is for Coburn out of Philly. Not saying he is better, but his contract makes him more appealing. And speaking of contracts, Erhoff's is a very nice hit (NMC ,I know).
Maybe there isn't a player of Dions calibre, but I think a couple solid vets that don't suck will be fine. I don't think we need Phaneuf so badly that we will pay a higher price than the Oilers want.

You got it. he is a five million Dman

You are comaring Dion to Subban Weber Drew D ,Chara Suter?

Not even close.

next level down would be Keith Seabrook go one lower

Go down to the Hamuis level and that is where Phanuef sits. Hamhuis gets paid 4.6
- vancouverdawg

I like Hamuis a lot better

....... good luck with that.
- aries1976

You didn't get what was implied by that at all, did you?

I like Hamuis a lot better
- TheNugeIsHuge

I like Bieksa better, even,.

Big splashes are harder to do these days . Fan bases can hope and fantasize but most GMs now know draft good and develop.
- vancouverdawg

Agreed... but how long do you rely on that? eventually it takes more then developing

You didn't get what was implied by that at all, did you?
- Jeropotato

NAH, I didn't... read the caption, and made assumptions, i save my video bandwith for porn.

The latest rumour out of Edmonton is for Coburn out of Philly. Not saying he is better, but his contract makes him more appealing. And speaking of contracts, Erhoff's is a very nice hit (NMC ,I know).
Maybe there isn't a player of Dions calibre, but I think a couple solid vets that don't suck will be fine. I don't think we need Phaneuf so badly that we will pay a higher price than the Oilers want.
- Jeropotato

Think the Oil need both Phaneuf and Coburn for different reasons.

NAH, I didn't... read the caption, and made assumptions, i save my video bandwith for porn.
- aries1976

It's actually pretty funny. That loudmouth got politely owned.

Think the Oil need both Phaneuf and Coburn for different reasons.
- aries1976

Nah...one would help, and an additional guy like Mitchell or Regehr would be fine.

Nah...one would help, and an additional guy like Mitchell or Regehr would be fine.
- Jeropotato

wonder what the kings will do.... im sure nothing for a few weeks, and rightfully so.

wonder what the kings will do.... im sure nothing for a few weeks, and rightfully so.
- aries1976

Management celebrate for about a week and then back to business. I'm sure they still were thinking about next year between games, it's the job.

It's actually pretty funny. That loudmouth got politely owned.
- Jeropotato

it's all good.. no hard feelings.. would love to see both teams be relevant again.

Management celebrate for about a week and then back to business. I'm sure they still were thinking about next year between games, it's the job.
- Jeropotato

kings have a decision on richards first, everything else depends on that decision

kings have a decision on richards first, everything else depends on that decision
- aries1976

This is shaping up to be a busy off-season if the reports and speculation mean anything. I would think that if anyone really wanted to shore up their center ice position, there will be plenty of opportunity.
Too bad Defensemen are not so easy to acquire.

What about an experienced guy like Mitchell? he won't cost you picks .
- vancouverdawg

Could totally use him. He was great in the playoffs.
Would even overpay for him short term.

Just responding that we dont just need defensive guys on the backend.

A two way guy that can help with tge breakout is every bit as vital. if not more so

This is shaping up to be a busy off-season if the reports and speculation mean anything. I would think that if anyone really wanted to shore up their center ice position, there will be plenty of opportunity.
Too bad Defensemen are not so easy to acquire.
- Jeropotato

as a leaf fan.. rather get a shutdown d-man over this '1C' fantasy.
figure you guys would be similar.