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bluengold12
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.19.2012

Jun 14 @ 4:31 PM ET
I think the only guarantee might be that 1 of Myers/Ehrhoff is here. I still think 1 is traded, and who knows who is up or down (Risti, Pysyk, Ruh, Zadorov) or if anyone (including us) even wants Mike Weber
- CaptPantalones


That's what I said.. Guarenteed on roster unless traded or bought out...

I think Weber should be bought out along with Leino personally but with their lack of D next year I doubt they do that
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jun 14 @ 4:31 PM ET
Really?? He's not the second coming of Crosby.. He's a good to decent player but you need someone like a Backstrom for the 2nd overall pick.. I don't care how weak the supposed draft is...
- bluengold12



Well I am biased because he's one of my favourites. if Reinhart goes 1st I would do it if the deal was offered to me.


Edit: I'm talking about this guy by the way

CaptPantalones
Buffalo Sabres
Location: The Optimistic side, NY
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jun 14 @ 4:32 PM ET
I'm not up on the young kids not in the NHL yet so who is it? and there is nothing set in stone we pick in the top 3 next year.
- SABRES 89


In order: Connor McDavid, Jack Eichel and Noah Hannifin, 3 of the likely top 4 next yr.

And while your right, I think Murray will almost guarantee this roster bad enough for a top 3. "You can make moves to direct the way you want the end result to be" (paraphrasing him at the deadline)
SABRES 89
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Jun 14 @ 4:32 PM ET
McDavid, Eichel, Hanifin.


If you sign nothing but old "scrubs" to short term high cap hit deals and trade away Stewart and Ehrhoff, you might as well pre order one of those jerseys to beat the rush.

- Sabresfan-365

What you want and what the Sabres do are two totally different things, because GM's always tell the truth in front of the media you know.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jun 14 @ 4:33 PM ET
In order: Connor McDavid, Jack Eichel and Noah Hannifin, 3 of the likely top 4 next yr.

And while your right, I think Murray will almost guarantee this roster bad enough for a top 3. "You can make moves to direct the way you want the end result to be" (paraphrasing him at the deadline)

- CaptPantalones






Translated in my head to: We're going to be poop next year, stop (frank)ing asking me"
Maximum Signal
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Joined: 07.11.2008

Jun 14 @ 4:33 PM ET
Why in the hell would you want those 3 scrubs? Booth misses more games then are in a season, Tooto does what again that will help this team?


I've said it 3 times or more Moulson is close to coming back, I was told no and Vanek and no on Miller so everyone can rest easy. I noticed yesterday someone posted something about Vanek coming back that's why I mentioned it.

The Stars have an interest in Ehrhoff I was told they, like a lot of teams want a D man that can play 20-25 minutes a game.

- SABRES 89


Moulson is the player I want back here . He values the leadership and mentoring role he will have here and really likes Nolan . So he is not some vet that will be undermining the coach.
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jun 14 @ 4:33 PM ET
Really?? He's not the second coming of Crosby.. He's a good to decent player but you need someone like a Backstrom for the 2nd overall pick.. I don't care how weak the supposed draft is...
- bluengold12



I'm so confused now are we talking about marcus johansson or ryan johansen?

if we had the opportunity to get johansen for the 2nd overall pick you do it ..

Murray should get the X if he says no
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jun 14 @ 4:34 PM ET
What you want and what the Sabres do are two totally different things, because GM's always tell the truth in front of the media you know.
- SABRES 89



And you think the Sabres don't want those three guys? Even with Moulson coming back, the right moves will get this team in the position to draft a real stud.
CaptainRivet
Buffalo Sabres
Location: on Bored, NY
Joined: 12.26.2008

Jun 14 @ 4:34 PM ET
Johansen or Johansson?
CaptPantalones
Buffalo Sabres
Location: The Optimistic side, NY
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jun 14 @ 4:34 PM ET
Translated in my head to: We're going to be poop next year, stop (frank)ing asking me"
- Sabresfan-365


exactly. He knows you have to suck to get to the elite talent nowadays.
SABRES 89
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Jun 14 @ 4:35 PM ET
Moulson is the player I want back here . He values the leadership and mentoring role he will have here and really like Nolan . So he is not some vet that will be undermining the coach.
- Maximum Signal

I was told he wants to come back, the Flyers and Yotes have interest as well but he feels " comfortable " in Buffalo.
bluengold12
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.19.2012

Jun 14 @ 4:35 PM ET
Do you know much about the London Knights .? Probably one of the top organizations in Junior hockey. If he were to be anywhere my first choice would be London . Discussion of the transfer rule has been beaten to death in here . It is not changing in the near future . Need to get over it and be glad that he is at least in London . And he will be benefit from being there . The Hunters will see to that.
- Maximum Signal


So you'd rather have him play against a bunch of boys then against men.. I don't care how world class London is you can color it up as much as you want AHL is still better competition than the Juniors... Sure maybe its a little better then Grig's playing in the Quebec league last year which equated to him playing against guys with arms behind their backs but I can have an opinion on the subject and I do its a BS rule and I don't like it
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
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Joined: 09.03.2009

Jun 14 @ 4:35 PM ET
Johansen or Johansson?
- CaptainRivet


ahahhah


damn eyes playing games
Dr3aMWeav3r
Buffalo Sabres
Location: You Human Paraquat, VA
Joined: 07.27.2012

Jun 14 @ 4:35 PM ET
Really?? He's not the second coming of Crosby.. He's a good to decent player but you need someone like a Backstrom for the 2nd overall pick.. I don't care how weak the supposed draft is...
- bluengold12

They are talking about Ryan Johansen from CLB
CaptainRivet
Buffalo Sabres
Location: on Bored, NY
Joined: 12.26.2008

Jun 14 @ 4:37 PM ET
ahahhah


damn eyes playing games

- gerbe75pts

Tyler Johnson?
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jun 14 @ 4:38 PM ET
So you'd rather have him play against a bunch of boys then against men.. I don't care how world class London is you can color it up as much as you want AHL is still better competition than the Juniors... Sure maybe its a little better then Grig's playing in the Quebec league last year which equated to him playing against guys with arms behind their backs but I can have an opinion on the subject and I do its a BS rule and I don't like it
- bluengold12


We said the same poop about grigorenko remember ? let him stay there it's not going to hurt him ( he does not need to be here at all ) why waste his contract on a poop year ?
bluengold12
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.19.2012

Jun 14 @ 4:38 PM ET
I'm so confused now are we talking about marcus johansson or ryan johansen?

if we had the opportunity to get johansen for the 2nd overall pick you do it ..

Murray should get the X if he says no

- gerbe75pts


I'm talking about Marcus Johansson of the Washington Capitals.. He is a good young player but not a guarantee of a 1st liner and frankly not worth a top 2 pick in the NHL draft those players should be automatic 1st liners. You only do that trade if your getting a guy whose all ready in 1st line mode
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 12.09.2012

Jun 14 @ 4:39 PM ET
I'm talking about Marcus Johansson of the Washington Capitals.. He is a good young player but not a guarantee of a 1st liner and frankly not worth a top 2 pick in the NHL draft those players should be automatic 1st liners. You only do that trade if your getting a guy whose all ready in 1st line mode
- bluengold12




He thought we were talking about Ryan Johansen, not Marcus Johansson.
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jun 14 @ 4:39 PM ET
Tyler Johnson?
- CaptainRivet



I hate you all

bluengold12
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.19.2012

Jun 14 @ 4:39 PM ET
We said the same poop about grigorenko remember ? let him stay there it's not going to hurt him ( he does not need to be here at all ) why waste his contract on a poop year ?
- gerbe75pts


It actually did hurt him.. That's my whole point.. He wasted a year of his development playing in Juniors last year. He should have been playing in Rochester all last year now he's a year behind.
Maximum Signal
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Buffalo Sabres
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Jun 14 @ 4:40 PM ET
So you'd rather have him play against a bunch of boys then against men.. I don't care how world class London is you can color it up as much as you want AHL is still better competition than the Juniors... Sure maybe its a little better then Grig's playing in the Quebec league last year which equated to him playing against guys with arms behind their backs but I can have an opinion on the subject and I do its a BS rule and I don't like it
- bluengold12


There is no debate ! He is not ready for the NHL and cannot go to the AHL . Best team for him to be with is London . We have called BS on the rule ever since Grigorenko was drafted . It is here for now deal with it ! Pounding your chest and stomping your feet is not going to change it . The CHL is not keen about giving it up as they are afraid it will deplete their product too much . Can't blame them . They are business owners , can't force them to do it if they do not want to.
bluengold12
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.19.2012

Jun 14 @ 4:41 PM ET
He thought we were talking about Ryan Johansen, not Marcus Johansson.
- Sabresfan-365


Ah.. okay okay.. Yeah I'd probably do the trade for Ryan Johansen then
bluengold12
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.19.2012

Jun 14 @ 4:43 PM ET
There is no debate ! He is not ready for the NHL and cannot go to the AHL . Best team for him to be with is London . We have called BS on the rule ever since Grigorenko was drafted . It is here for now deal with it ! Pounding your chest and stomping your feet is not going to change it . The CHL is not keen about giving it up as they are afraid it will deplete their product too much . Can't blame them . They are business owners , can't force them to do it if they do not want to.
- Maximum Signal


I can complain about it all I want! Freedom of speech! If Gary Bettman wasn't such an idiotic moron he'd outmuscle the measly CHL and convince them to compromise but he's an idiot so obviously players like Drouin or Grigorenko suffer because of it.
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jun 14 @ 4:43 PM ET
It actually did hurt him.. That's my whole point.. He wasted a year of his development playing in Juniors last year. He should have been playing in Rochester all last year now he's a year behind.
- bluengold12



he couldn't play in AHL till his season was over .


this would be his first year
bluengold12
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.19.2012

Jun 14 @ 4:45 PM ET
he couldn't play in AHL till his season was over .


this would be his first year

- gerbe75pts


I know! I've been saying I know but I said it hurt his growth because its a stupid rule!
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