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OneKaneOneCup
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 06.21.2013

Jun 15 @ 9:16 PM ET
Where exactly did you see him say it'd have to be 1 for 1? Girgensons, Ristolainen, Zadorov and Pysyk are the closest to immovable. Myers is not in that group anymore.

Calder trophy put 'unrealistic' expectations on Myers, meaning he's not a top 2 dman nor a franchise dman.

- Otsegolectric

Or it meant that it was dumb to expect him to be a #1 defensemen at 19-20 years old.

Pysyk is also not as close to as valuable as Myers. What exactly has Pysyk or Zadarov done?
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 15 @ 9:16 PM ET
Based on what TM said about Myers, i think he'd jump at a myers+ for ROR
- Otsegolectric



If it happens to Myers + a forward, I think the AVs would prob have to add more than just ROR

I've been saying all along this contract situation could get messy
I think he's traded at the draft
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 15 @ 9:17 PM ET

- Maximum Signal


I can't wait to read all the ROR tomorrow. It's like reading about a dead horse beating another dead horse.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
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Jun 15 @ 9:17 PM ET
If it happens to Myers + a forward, I think the AVs would prob have to add more than just ROR

I've been saying all along this contract situation could get messy
I think he's traded at the draft

- jdfitz77


I'll eat both of my (frank)ing shoes, then I'll eat my car.
SabresFaninIndiana
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bananaville, IN
Joined: 12.16.2009

Jun 15 @ 9:19 PM ET
Myers is very polarizing. I see a lot of good in him but I can admit that he has gotten beat a lot.
- joshs

Myers if he gets his offense consistently rolling his contract will make him a good complimentary player. I don't think he is a franchise dman but he will be a very good #2 or a pairing of a 2/2 punch
OneKaneOneCup
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 06.21.2013

Jun 15 @ 9:21 PM ET
Myers + Girgensons for Nyquist


Eat celery

Draft Bantitty and Ekbald.

Get someone who is 59% better than Girgensons

RORROROROROROROR

Sign Kaleahan
SabresFaninIndiana
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bananaville, IN
Joined: 12.16.2009

Jun 15 @ 9:22 PM ET
Myers + Girgensons for Nyquist


Eat celery

Draft Bantitty and Ekbald.

Get someone who is 59% better than Girgensons

RORROROROROROROR

- OneKaneOneCup

I love you.
Maximum Signal
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Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 07.11.2008

Jun 15 @ 9:23 PM ET
Where exactly did you see him say it'd have to be 1 for 1? Girgensons, Ristolainen, Zadorov and Pysyk are the closest to immovable. Myers is not in that group anymore.

Calder trophy put 'unrealistic' expectations on Myers, meaning he's not a top 2 dman nor a franchise dman.

- Otsegolectric



Murray said that , his play has hardly regressed since he made that statement . All he said too much was expected from Myers after the Calder season . Defenseman develop slower than forwards . You have no idea of Myer's perceived value with other franchises . I know first hand they think he is going to be a gem . The quote said to me was you cannot teach size . And they are impressed with the skating ability he already has to go with it . They think if polish this pebble so more he is going to be a gem . Have heard that from folks in 2 organizations that are not the Sabres. Where do you get he is not 1 OR 2 Defenseman from that statement . He is still a kid . That who is developing right now under Nolan.

By the way the AV's have no plans to trade O'Reilly . It is all posturing for his negotiation . Just like Murray's comment about Myers. You do not talk about player down and then try and trade . He is trying to give Myer's even more motivation to prove him wrong.
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Jun 15 @ 9:26 PM ET
If it happens to Myers + a forward, I think the AVs would prob have to add more than just ROR

I've been saying all along this contract situation could get messy
I think he's traded at the draft

- jdfitz77


Nah, ROR is staying w/ the Avs. They wouldn't of filed for team arbitration if they are contemplating trading him at all.
Maximum Signal
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Jun 15 @ 9:26 PM ET
If it happens to Myers + a forward, I think the AVs would prob have to add more than just ROR

I've been saying all along this contract situation could get messy
I think he's traded at the draft

- jdfitz77


They are working on Stastny deal first . Then they will lock in O'Reilly ( they have more time for O'Reilly since is an RFA ) . They have much as said O'Reilly is in their plans
Otsegolectric
Buffalo Sabres
Location: rochester, NY
Joined: 01.26.2012

Jun 15 @ 9:26 PM ET
Or it meant that it was dumb to expect him to be a #1 defensemen at 19-20 years old.

Pysyk is also not as close to as valuable as Myers. What exactly has Pysyk or Zadarov done?

- OneKaneOneCup


Ya true he couldve meant that too. Dont get me wrong i love myers but feel like our D is so stacked that he could be let go for a much needed top 6 F.

Pysyk and zadorov are prized prospects. Zadorov is going to be a beast and psysk has potential to be a top pairing dman
Maximum Signal
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Jun 15 @ 9:28 PM ET
Myers + Girgensons for Nyquist


Eat celery

Draft Bantitty and Ekbald.

Get someone who is 59% better than Girgensons

RORROROROROROROR

Sign Kaleahan

- OneKaneOneCup


You forgot eating half of Myer's contract


OneKaneOneCup
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 06.21.2013

Jun 15 @ 9:29 PM ET
Ya true he couldve meant that too. Dont get me wrong i love myers but feel like our D is so stacked that he could be let go for a much needed top 6 F.

Pysyk and zadorov are prized prospects. Zadorov is going to be a beast and psysk has potential to be a top pairing dman

- Otsegolectric

But who's to say Pysyk or Zadarov don't have the same struggles?

IMO unless you are getting a bonafide top line offensive player, it's foolish to move a 24 year old Myers.
TheSabresTaco
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Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 15 @ 9:29 PM ET
Myers + Girgensons for Nyquist


Eat celery

Draft Bantitty and Ekbald.

Get someone who is 59% better than Girgensons

RORROROROROROROR

Sign Kaleahan

- OneKaneOneCup


Does Kaleahan have any glue??!!!!! 111
Maximum Signal
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Buffalo Sabres
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Jun 15 @ 9:29 PM ET
Ya true he couldve meant that too. Dont get me wrong i love myers but feel like our D is so stacked that he could be let go for a much needed top 6 F.

Pysyk and zadorov are prized prospects. Zadorov is going to be a beast and psysk has potential to be a top pairing dman

- Otsegolectric


Pysyk will never be Myer's . Zadarov has lots of development to go. Trade Myer's , set the rebuild back 3 years . Sounds like a plan .


Maximum Signal
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Jun 15 @ 9:30 PM ET
Does Kaleahan have any glue??!!!!! 111
- TheSabresTaco


Like an old Race horse ! He is a glue factory !
OneKaneOneCup
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Jun 15 @ 9:33 PM ET
I love you.
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Otsegolectric
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Jun 15 @ 9:35 PM ET
Pysyk will never be Myer's . Zadarov has lots of development to go. Trade Myer's , set the rebuild back 3 years . Sounds like a plan .



- Maximum Signal

Right right, because we'd be worse with Ryan O'Reilly than Myers. K that makes sense
Maximum Signal
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Jun 15 @ 9:36 PM ET
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- OneKaneOneCup


That is the forbidden love - Internet bonding . We could replace match.com in here.


TheSabresTaco
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Jun 15 @ 9:37 PM ET
Like an old Race horse ! He is a glue factory !
- Maximum Signal


I have an idea. Let's create Ryan O'Cally. He'll not only be the sabres number one trade target for the next 28 years, but he'll also ooze gorilla glow everywhere he goes. His price for the greatest player on the planet? Meyers and a 2nd of course.
TheSabresTaco
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Jun 15 @ 9:39 PM ET
Right right, because we'd be worse with Ryan O'Reilly than Myers. K that makes sense
- Otsegolectric


HE WILL NOT BE TRADED.
Maximum Signal
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Jun 15 @ 9:40 PM ET
Right right, because we'd be worse with Ryan O'Reilly than Myers. K that makes sense
- Otsegolectric


Because we are in the middle of a planned rebuild . Forwards develop quicker than forwards . How many years till you figure to develop Zadarov till he is Myers . At least 4 ! The key to the rebuild is patience . That is from Murray . He does not want to trade his assets to have a quicker rebuild till he has more assets . To repeat O'Reilly is not moving . Wake up and smell the roses . We have been down this path many times before . Not happening . Roy has said they will get a deal done with O'Reilly .
Maximum Signal
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Jun 15 @ 9:41 PM ET
I have an idea. Let's create Ryan O'Cally. He'll not only be the sabres number one trade target for the next 28 years, but he'll also ooze gorilla glow everywhere he goes. His price for the greatest player on the planet? Meyers and a 2nd of course.
- TheSabresTaco


And we eat 1/2 of Myer's salary.


Maximum Signal
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Jun 15 @ 9:43 PM ET
HE WILL NOT BE TRADED.
- TheSabresTaco


Some people refuse to understand that point !!


Otsegolectric
Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 01.26.2012

Jun 15 @ 9:47 PM ET
Because we are in the middle of a planned rebuild . Forwards develop quicker than forwards . How many years till you figure to develop Zadarov till he is Myers . At least 4 ! The key to the rebuild is patience . That is from Murray . He does not want to trade his assets to have a quicker rebuild till he has more assets . To repeat O'Reilly is not moving . Wake up and smell the roses . We have been down this path many times before . Not happening . Roy has said they will get a deal done with O'Reilly .
- Maximum Signal


Till he is myers? God i hope he's nit like myers in 4 years. You forget what TM has been the last 3 yrs. ya he has a ton of upside but where has it been? He's a train wreck in his own end half the time. You act like he's on the cusp of stardom.

Of course you have to assume your 1st rd dmen picks develop into good players.

Anyway, the ROR thing isnt just being talked about here, everyone is talking about it
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