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Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jun 14 @ 9:37 PM ET
Ritchie won't make it to #17

Here is my list of 10 that I would consider at #17 (Milano isn't on it)


- ob18

Honka2014
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jun 14 @ 9:40 PM ET
Honka2014
- Giroux_Is_God


ha, he'd be a nice addition.
FlyersSteve118
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Delco, PA
Joined: 10.02.2013

Jun 14 @ 10:04 PM ET
Clark Bishop - Center - Breton Screaming Eagles - 2014 NHL Draft

"Bishop is all heart and work ethic. Not blessed with the natural talents of others in his draft class, Bishop uses his physicality, grit, work rate, smarts and tremendous skating ability to make things happen on both sides of the puck.."


- ob18


Eric Wellwood type guy? Or more scoring ability?
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jun 14 @ 10:05 PM ET
i dont really give a care who they draft as long as they rush him to the big club immediately
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jun 14 @ 10:06 PM ET
Eric Wellwood type guy? Or more scoring ability?
- FlyersSteve118


A comparison was Max Talbot
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jun 14 @ 10:06 PM ET
i dont really give a care who they draft as long as they rush him to the big club immediately
- Crimsoninja


Stick to the NBA
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jun 14 @ 10:52 PM ET
Ritchie won't make it to #17

Here is my list of 10 that I would consider at #17 (Milano isn't on it)


- ob18


I believe Honka will fall to the 2nd round, but I would be extremely happy with a Robby Fabbri or Jarred McCann....super happy if Jake Virtanen drops or Flyers trade up for him.
KINGKENZO
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: OMAR COMIN'..Head or Gut?.....Watching regular white people
Joined: 01.10.2008

Jun 14 @ 10:53 PM ET
i dont really give a care who they draft as long as they rush him to the big club immediately
- Crimsoninja

Thats not nearly as cool as trading him, then watching him hoist the cup.....egg on our face style
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: dicky seamus, PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Jun 14 @ 11:09 PM ET
2 questions.

Why are we going after Myers? Dumb, in my opinion. He's vastly underachieved, is expensive, and is on the rung above bust status.

Secondly, why would Timonen be getting top pair minutes?

- Giroux_Is_God


I don't think he's anywhere close to a bust. He's had 2 bad seasons on one of the worst teams in the NHL. And similar things were probably said about Chara when he went from the Islanders to the Senators and then the Bruins. But Myers could be expensive, I agree with that. Still, if the price is right, I take him on the Flyers in a heartbeat. And Buffalo might do it with their strong D prospects ready to go in a season or two.

Interesting little tidbit: Buffalo played 39 different players this past season to the Flyers' 27, and 4 of them were zero or better +/-, with the best being +1, and he played 12 games.


wilsonecho91
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A dream to some...a nightmare to others, AK
Joined: 11.13.2007

Jun 15 @ 12:10 AM ET
#flyers Kimmo Timonen contract: 2M$ base salary + 750 000 at 10 games + 250 000 at 20 games + 250 000 at 30 games + 250 000 at 60 games.

From R Lavoie
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
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Jun 15 @ 12:12 AM ET
#flyers Kimmo Timonen contract: 2M$ base salary + 750 000 at 10 games + 250 000 at 20 games + 250 000 at 30 games + 250 000 at 60 games.

From R Lavoie

- wilsonecho91

So more than likely we just resigned Kimmo for 3.5 mil.

That's mother(frank)ing awesome
jstross
Joined: 06.25.2012

Jun 15 @ 12:16 AM ET
#flyers Kimmo Timonen contract: 2M$ base salary + 750 000 at 10 games + 250 000 at 20 games + 250 000 at 30 games + 250 000 at 60 games.

From R Lavoie

- wilsonecho91


So it's not for a possible $4 million? Sweet.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jun 15 @ 12:40 AM ET
So more than likely we just resigned Kimmo for 3.5 mil.

That's mother(frank)ing awesome

- Giroux_Is_God


which is exactly what i said he would go for. 3-3.5. i am ron hextall.
-davies-
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A medical emergency involving you.
Joined: 08.05.2013

Jun 15 @ 12:54 AM ET
Thats not nearly as cool as trading him, then watching him hoist the cup.....egg on our face style
- KINGKENZO



plingkenzbergh is that you?
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
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Jun 15 @ 1:05 AM ET
which is exactly what i said he would go for. 3-3.5. i am ron hextall.
- hammarby31

Sign schenn pls thx
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
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Jun 15 @ 1:06 AM ET
plingkenzbergh is that you?
- -davies-

I think it might be a troll account, actually.

Can't believe it took me this long, to be honest.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jun 15 @ 1:24 AM ET
Agreed, I would not call our D strong or dominating, but there really isn't anyone I'd call weak in terms of NHL starters. There are no glaring issues. We just wish they were a bit more mobile and maybe a little more steady with the puck. Any serious upgrade is too expensive and any minor upgrade isn't really worth it and might turn out to be worse.
- flyler

I had to respond to this again.

This is really the most accurate grasp of our D that I've read in a very long time. The grass is always greener on the other side if you simply give away players and replace that player with a more handsome face. It's just a silly reason to do so. Our defense is what it is. Far from perfect but it's not gonna be a quick fix either.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 15 @ 1:37 AM ET
which is exactly what i said he would go for. 3-3.5. i am ron hextall.
- hammarby31


Great, go (frank)ing trade Lecavalier and get off the internet.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 15 @ 1:39 AM ET
So more than likely we just resigned Kimmo for 3.5 mil.

That's mother(frank)ing awesome

- Giroux_Is_God


Yep. It also gives them flexibility-$2mm cap hit, and bonuses that can be deferred.

So far, Hextall has been doing a good job.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 15 @ 2:14 AM ET
Agreed, I would not call our D strong or dominating, but there really isn't anyone I'd call weak in terms of NHL starters. There are no glaring issues. We just wish they were a bit more mobile and maybe a little more steady with the puck. Any serious upgrade is too expensive and any minor upgrade isn't really worth it and might turn out to be worse.

I say upgrade the forwards because we have space and there are solid upgrades to the Left wing spot to be had. Resign Schenn, move Vinnie and take a chance on a Veteran Left Wing scorer for the first or second line. Give Manning or Lauridson the option to play the 7th spot and let the Other players mature on the Phantoms. Turn the Phantoms into a championship team and you get these kids used to playing in a AHL winning culture. And then like Carter & Richards, they'll take that with them into the NHL.

- flyler


The lack of speed is a glaring issue. The lack of any solid ability in playing the puck for several members of the proposed top six is a glaring issue. I'm not saying rush out and add somebody because he has a name, but there are options out there that are better than what they have...and honestly, if it means getting a legit first pair guy that can do a lot and play in all situations, do it, even if it is expensive.

Even if it's only a minor upgrade, it has to be considered. They need to improve the back end. It can be done and done intelligently in short term or even stop gaps that make the mix better than it currently is now.

As far as left wing, why trade for a veteran scorer? I submit Matt Read. Guy scores 20+ goals, playing against top competition, in a shut down role. There's no need to use assets to fill a position that can likely be filled from within.

With the addition of Pierre Bellemare, they might already have a capable third line replacement for Read, and I think a third line of Bellemare, Couturier & Raffl could be pretty solid, if Bellemare can adapt to the NHL. They also have Scott Laughton in the mix.

If none of those float your boat, it's generally easier and cheaper to add a good 3rd liner than a 1st or 2nd line scoring winger. If you're going to make a move address areas of real need. LW is a need, but it should be able to be handled as a secondary need. Defense is a real and major need.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jun 15 @ 2:30 AM ET
Great, go (frank)ing trade Lecavalier and get off the internet.
- Jsaquella


are you kidding? i get all my ideas from this (frank)ing place. it's a gold mine!
wilsonecho91
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A dream to some...a nightmare to others, AK
Joined: 11.13.2007

Jun 15 @ 2:36 AM ET
If Brad Richards gets bought out, sign him and make him and Vinny play wing. It'll be anarchy

Edit:
tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

Jun 15 @ 2:45 AM ET
If Brad Richards gets bought out, sign him and make him and Vinny play wing. It'll be anarchy

Edit:

- wilsonecho91



wilsonecho91
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A dream to some...a nightmare to others, AK
Joined: 11.13.2007

Jun 15 @ 3:08 AM ET

- tangent_man

Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
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Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 15 @ 4:06 AM ET
I submit Matt Read. Guy scores 20+ goals, playing against top competition, in a shut down role. There's no need to use assets to fill a position that can likely be filled from within.
- Jsaquella


Akeson/Schenn/Read needs to be a thing... shades of Calvert/Schenn/Glennie from Brandon.

Waffl could have another 5-10 goals in his stick, too.

Under the circumstances, better to promote the kids up the lineup than pay UFA prices for middling talent (Raymond, Pouliot). If some serviceable winger is available in September for a bargain, than sure.
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