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FlyersSteve118
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Delco, PA
Joined: 10.02.2013

Jun 13 @ 6:09 PM ET
The only thing we know as far as the bonuses and a potential overage is that it will be anywhere from 0 to 2M.
- MJL


Obviously. I'm just saying that I am pretty sure that Hexy won't let the full 2mil hit the cap next year. That it is really not as bad as people are making it sound like.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 13 @ 6:12 PM ET
Obviously. I'm just saying that I am pretty sure that Hexy won't let the full 2mil hit the cap next year. That it is really not as bad as people are making it sound like.
- FlyersSteve118


Again there are a lot of unknowns. Last year they were relatively injury free. That could change. There's a whole lot of factors that a GM can't control. A lot of statements being made here that isn't reality. It may not be bad. We don't know. But there is the very real potential that the Flyers would have to carry the full 2M as a penalty. I think that could be bad.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jun 13 @ 6:14 PM ET
Have fun watching hurricanes north this season.
- twotoekenn


Sms401
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Kenmore , NY
Joined: 07.28.2011

Jun 13 @ 6:15 PM ET
Love the kimmo contract. It's about right for the roll he should play on this team. Good sign that hexy see salary to roll. Hopefully he can rid team of as many crap contracts as possible this year.
77rams
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There's a kind of freedom in being completely screwed...
Joined: 09.12.2006

Jun 13 @ 6:18 PM ET
I wouldn't be upset at that.
- MJL


You said the Vinny deal wasn't dumb.

Now you'd trade him for a 3rd (2105), 4th (2014), a UFA, and pay a 1 mil to move him?

He soured on you pretty quickly, huh?
FlyersSteve118
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Delco, PA
Joined: 10.02.2013

Jun 13 @ 6:19 PM ET
I am stating the obvious just to continue arguing for no reason.
- MJL


ftfy
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jun 13 @ 6:28 PM ET
Robin, Robben, Robin, Robben...all birdies all the time!
- bodiva88

he (both of them) can really fly

(seriously)


spain was 55-1 or something like that coming into this game and they were demolished
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Jun 13 @ 6:46 PM ET
he can really fly

(seriously)


spain was 55-1 or something like that coming into this game and they were demolished

- Marc D


Fun game, and I'd invite anyone who dislikes soccer to watch this world cup. Fun as hell and the best part is there is no commercial break every (frank)ing 5 minutes. "Brought to you by... Blah blah capitalistic BS"

Beautiful to see the minimal advertising compared to NFL and NHL.
-davies-
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A medical emergency involving you.
Joined: 08.05.2013

Jun 13 @ 6:50 PM ET
Flyers make me laugh throwing money away when you go players that can help win a cup
- Palmer117



yeah hahaha go players that can help win a cup right
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jun 13 @ 6:51 PM ET
Fun game, and I'd invite anyone who dislikes soccer to watch this world cup. Fun as hell and the best part is there is no commercial break every (frank)ing 5 minutes. "Brought to you by... Blah blah capitalistic BS"

Beautiful to see the minimal advertising compared to NFL and NHL.

- flyer_nutter

not sure if a euro team can win in brasil, but it will be very interesting
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Jun 13 @ 6:53 PM ET
not sure if a euro team can win in brasil, but it will be very interesting
- Marc D


Did you see the first Brazil and Croatia game? The penalty shot that made it 2-1 for Brazil was really questionable. Waived off a goal for Croat's too.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jun 13 @ 7:01 PM ET
If he earns the performance-based bonuses, they count against this year if there is room under the cap. If they don't fit under the cap this season, they'll be counted against next season.
- bodiva88

Ok so just be 2 million under the cap this season. Problem solved.

Don't really understand why this is a big deal. Just treat it like a 4 million cap hit contract.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jun 13 @ 7:02 PM ET
You said the Vinny deal wasn't dumb.

Now you'd trade him for a 3rd (2105), 4th (2014), a UFA, and pay a 1 mil to move him?

He soured on you pretty quickly, huh?

- 77rams


If you want to get into this with him, you better clear your schedule for the next week.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jun 13 @ 7:02 PM ET
The cushion allows you to transfer whatever bonus amount exceeds the cap limit to the next year. Say the flyers have $500,000 in remaining cap space at the end of the season and Kimmo earns the full $2mil in bonuses. The $1.5mil that exceeds the cap ceiling this year can be rolled over to the count against the cap next year instead.
- FlyersSteve118

I see. Makes perfect sense

Seems like it's a much bigger deal in here than it is in reality, to be completely honest.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jun 13 @ 7:03 PM ET
Ok so just be 2 million under the cap this season. Problem solved.

Don't really understand why this is a big deal. Just treat it like a 4 million cap hit contract.

- Giroux_Is_God


I trust Hextall will do this. I wouldn't trust Homer as much.
Dkos
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gritty, PA
Joined: 01.15.2007

Jun 13 @ 7:03 PM ET
You said the Vinny deal wasn't dumb.

Now you'd trade him for a 3rd (2105), 4th (2014), a UFA, and pay a 1 mil to move him?

He soured on you pretty quickly, huh?

- 77rams


Things changed between the time they signed him and now. New coach. New system that doesn't fit him as well. New GM. Back injury. Nobody liked the years and money when they signed him, but You had to think he was going to make the team better.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jun 13 @ 7:05 PM ET
I see. Makes perfect sense

Seems like it's a much bigger deal in here than it is in reality, to be completely honest.

- Giroux_Is_God


It limits what the Flyers can do in the offseason next year. They will probably be on the hook for part of VLs deal along with Pronger's. It's a lot of money tied up in players who won't be playing for the Flyers.
Dkos
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gritty, PA
Joined: 01.15.2007

Jun 13 @ 7:07 PM ET
Ok so just be 2 million under the cap this season. Problem solved.

Don't really understand why this is a big deal. Just treat it like a 4 million cap hit contract.

- Giroux_Is_God


From Timmy P's article it sounds more likely that he'll end up at around $3M for the year
77rams
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There's a kind of freedom in being completely screwed...
Joined: 09.12.2006

Jun 13 @ 7:39 PM ET
If you want to get into this with him, you better clear your schedule for the next week.
- PhillySportsGuy


Nah, MJL is good with me. I enjoy discussing our differences of opinions.
jstross
Joined: 06.25.2012

Jun 13 @ 7:56 PM ET
Love the Timonen deal. Essentially a UFA D Man on a 1 year $4 million max deal. one and done baby. A bridge to youth without blocking them down the road. I think Hexy will now try to deal Grossman for a cheaper option, but he's only got 2 years left.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jun 13 @ 7:58 PM ET
I just broke a (frank)ing string on a piano.
I was playing Lullabye and broke a string.
jstross
Joined: 06.25.2012

Jun 13 @ 8:02 PM ET
That Dallas deal for VL is a no brainer, even if it's just the rights to negotiate with Fiddler 1st(who cares). a 4th and 3rd is a no brainer. I would prefer they eat the cap mostly in the first 2 years, but that's just me.
jstross
Joined: 06.25.2012

Jun 13 @ 8:09 PM ET
I don't like the Schenn Nashville deal.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jun 13 @ 8:11 PM ET
Post links to these "rumors" or don't post them
jstross
Joined: 06.25.2012

Jun 13 @ 8:29 PM ET
Post links to these "rumors" or don't post them
- ob18


i'm just responding to an earlier post.
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