Wanna blog? Start your own hockey blog with My HockeyBuzz. Register for free today!
 
Forums :: Blog World :: Bill Meltzer: Meltzer's Musings: DeAngelo, Quick Hits
Author Message
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jun 13 @ 1:58 PM ET
I think you will see Kimmo in a different role this year. Hopefully they keep his icetime around 16-18 a game.
- jak521

I'd like to see a Ghost/Kimmo 3rd pair sometime in January, assuming Ghost doesn't blow the world away in camp and starts in the AHL for a few months of pro seasoning.

But hey- maybe Alt can play with him on the 3rd pair? I don't know how speedy Alt is but I understand he's a good puck mover? Then we can keep Ghost in the AHL, which I feel is the best course of action honestly
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 13 @ 1:58 PM ET
Schenn's new contract probably won't be bonus heavy though, if that makes any difference
- Giroux_Is_God


Schenn is not eligible for performance bonuses in his next contract.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jun 13 @ 1:58 PM ET
Schenn's new contract probably won't be bonus heavy though, if that makes any difference
- Giroux_Is_God


Yeah. I'd like for it to get done soon. I understand the obstacles, but it would be nice to have him in camp on time and ready to roll.
FlyersSteve118
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Delco, PA
Joined: 10.02.2013

Jun 13 @ 2:00 PM ET
Don't you want to use it, to the full extent, as early as possible?
- jmatchett383


It completely depends on the situation and if you have players that can slide back to the phantoms without having to clear waivers to alleviate cap space. You only have one chance to use all of the players salary our you lose it.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jun 13 @ 2:01 PM ET
Think palatsigning for 3.3 mil makes signing schenn for 2.5 easier?
- FlyersSteve118

That would be (frank)ing amazing.

I feel like 3 yrs at 8 mil is going to be what we see. 2.667 mil cap hit
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 13 @ 2:02 PM ET
It completely depends on the situation and if you have players that can slide back to the phantoms without having to clear waivers to alleviate cap space. You only have one chance to use all of the players salary our you lose it.
- FlyersSteve118


So, in Pronger's case, isn't is best to be $4.9M over the cap on day 1 of the season?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 13 @ 2:03 PM ET
It completely depends on the situation and if you have players that can slide back to the phantoms without having to clear waivers to alleviate cap space. You only have one chance to use all of the players salary our you lose it.
- FlyersSteve118


That depends on when the Flyers place Pronger on LTIR. If they do it before the first day of the season, then that's true. But if they wait until the first day of the season to place Pronger on LTIR, then they can have the full exemption to use at any time of the season. For as many players as they can fit under the roster limit.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jun 13 @ 2:03 PM ET
I'd like to see a Ghost/Kimmo 3rd pair sometime in January, assuming Ghost doesn't blow the world away in camp and starts in the AHL for a few months of pro seasoning.

But hey- maybe Alt can play with him on the 3rd pair? I don't know how speedy Alt is but I understand he's a good puck mover? Then we can keep Ghost in the AHL, which I feel is the best course of action honestly

- Giroux_Is_God

I have a serious feeling the only time we see Ghost this year is when there is an injury. I think Hexy wants to be super patient with our younger players... pays off for sure in the long run.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jun 13 @ 2:04 PM ET
I have a serious feeling the only time we see Ghost this year is when there is an injury. I think Hexy wants to be super patient with our younger players... pays off for sure in the long run.
- jak521

I want this to be the case and have said it multiple times

Personally, I think it's Alt's time to shine
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jun 13 @ 2:05 PM ET
That would be (frank)ing amazing.

I feel like 3 yrs at 8 mil is going to be what we see. 2.667 mil cap hit

- Giroux_Is_God

Thats a best case scenario... I have a feeling its gonna be more of a 2 year, 5.5 mill deal. For some reason I feel Schenn will want a lot more than he deserves..
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 13 @ 2:07 PM ET
Kimmo's technically our 7th highest-paid defenseman on the roster right now...
FlyersGrace
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pronger "Play the game puffnuts!" , DE
Joined: 07.02.2012

Jun 13 @ 2:08 PM ET
Why is there only 1 on field ref? Why not add another?
- PhillySportsGuy

Anarchy. I used to ref soccer. You rely on the linesmen a great deal but the ref is god on that field. There's enough primadonna's out there you do not want a mommy/daddy situation.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Jun 13 @ 2:09 PM ET
Is dub step considered the new house music? Because that stuff is just noise. Granted, I listen to punk and hardcore, so...
- jmatchett383

Possibly, but not sure. All I know is there are a lot of different names for crappy music
FlyersSteve118
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Delco, PA
Joined: 10.02.2013

Jun 13 @ 2:09 PM ET
So, in Pronger's case, isn't is best to be $4.9M over the cap on day 1 of the season?
- jmatchett383


Best case would be to be 4.9mil over the cap with two ahl call ups worth as much as possible to immediately send back down to the ahl to give us full use of prongers ltir and allow us as much wiggle room in the cap as possible.
FlyersGrace
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pronger "Play the game puffnuts!" , DE
Joined: 07.02.2012

Jun 13 @ 2:11 PM ET
He could have him assassinated.
- jmatchett383


You sir, are a horrible person.
JonnyHammerstix
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.12.2013

Jun 13 @ 2:13 PM ET
Man I can't wait till this whole Pronger LTIR nonsense is over with
flyler
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: LA, CA
Joined: 05.23.2008

Jun 13 @ 2:13 PM ET
He's one of my all time favorites. This franchise would have been in trouble without him.
- PhillySportsGuy


Since he's been here he has been the most important player on the ice for the Flyers. A Defensemen you don't have to worry about. Steady and consistently good. Definitely one of Homer's best moves.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Jun 13 @ 2:13 PM ET
Kimmo's technically our 7th highest-paid defenseman on the roster right now...
- Tomahawk


Ha!

I probably would've moved on, but if you are bringing anyone back, certainly a player with Timonen's heart and professionalism...the Flyers could certainly have done worse.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 13 @ 2:15 PM ET
Best case would be to be 4.9mil over the cap with two ahl call ups worth as much as possible to immediately send back down to the ahl to give us full use of prongers ltir and allow us as much wiggle room in the cap as possible.
- FlyersSteve118


The best case scenario is to be at or below the Upper Limit coming out of training camp, with Pronger on the active roster. If they are over the Upper Limit coming out of training camp, and need to place Pronger on LTIR to be compliant at that point, they are screwed. But having waiver exempt players that can be sent down to the AHL in combination of waiving players such as Hall or Rosehill, like they did last season, can help accomplish that. They only need to have 20 players on the roster they submit coming out of camp.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jun 13 @ 2:15 PM ET
Man I can't wait till this whole Pronger LTIR nonsense is over with
- JonnyHammerstix

I prefer to call it a charade, because that's EXACTLY what it is
FlyersGrace
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pronger "Play the game puffnuts!" , DE
Joined: 07.02.2012

Jun 13 @ 2:16 PM ET
Ha!

I probably would've moved on, but if you are bringing anyone back, certainly a player with Timonen's heart and professionalism...the Flyers could certainly have done worse.

- AllInForFlyers

Agreed I was worried they would try and keep him in the 6M range and he has lost too much speed for that. 2M which could go as high as 4M is a wonderful signing. Play him protected minutes, give him a couple kids to mentor. And I am pleased as punch with this signing.
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: dicky seamus, PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Jun 13 @ 2:16 PM ET
If Tyrion dies I'll be mighty pissed
- JonnyHammerstix


Read the books. He gets turned into a tiny dragon. Then he dies.

Also, good news on Kimmo.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jun 13 @ 2:17 PM ET
Anarchy. I used to ref soccer. You rely on the linesmen a great deal but the ref is god on that field. There's enough primadonna's out there you do not want a mommy/daddy situation.
- FlyersGrace


So they can't add another ref because they don't want them comparing Richards on the field?
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jun 13 @ 2:23 PM ET
http://www.capgeek.com/fa...ses-count-against-the-cap

Thanks, Capgeek!

I'm not sure how this works with LTIR, but the Flyers will have some room and may not need to worry about carrying Kimmo's bonus next year.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 13 @ 2:25 PM ET
http://www.capgeek.com/fa...ses-count-against-the-cap

Thanks, Capgeek!

I'm not sure how this works with LTIR, but the Flyers will have some room and may not need to worry about carrying Kimmo's bonus next year.

- PhillySportsGuy



http://www.capgeek.com/fa...LTIR-cause-bonus-overages
Page: Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34  Next