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funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Jun 13 @ 1:38 PM ET
Why is there only 1 on field ref? Why not add another?
- PhillySportsGuy


Becuase it works so well in hockey? So much still goes unnoticed and bad calls still get made with 2 refs.
bodiva88
Referee
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There aren't any answers. Only choices.
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jun 13 @ 1:39 PM ET
Why is there only 1 on field ref? Why not add another?
- PhillySportsGuy

linesman to call offsides and can be consulted on anything the ref feels he needs help with. Video replay on goals (just on whether they are or are not in, not anything about how they got there).
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jun 13 @ 1:39 PM ET
Craig Custance ‏@CraigCustance 3m
Timonen clearly took less to stay in Philadelphia. Would have made more than that on the open market.

- PhillySportsGuy

I love Kimmo. I really do.

I don't consider him in that elite tier of favorite Flyers, but it just now hit me that it's silly I don't even give him an honorable mention
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jun 13 @ 1:39 PM ET
Signs a nice depth 2-way winger for minimal money.

Resigns Kimmo for a VERY resonable one year extension.

Apparently talking to VL's agent about possible trades and seems commmited to youth.

So far so good Hexy.

- JonnyHammerstix

I like everything I've read so far, great start to the summer
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 13 @ 1:39 PM ET
Incentive laden- probably on games played... just like I wanted. Beautiful, if this is the case.
- Giroux_Is_God


A deal with bonuses is a double edge sword. Helps with the Cap for this year. But could lead to bonus overage penalties the following season.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jun 13 @ 1:40 PM ET
This
- JonnyHammerstix


He could have gotten more, but he is, in all likelihood, getting $4M. That extra $2M will count against next year's cap.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 13 @ 1:40 PM ET
My understanding is that he counts as $2M this year. Any incentives he reaches will be applied to our cap this coming year if we have room under the bonus cushion; whatever he reaches that pushes us over the bonus cushion will be applied to the following season's cap.

I could be wildly wrong, but that's how I understand it.

- dilbert719


I think you have it pretty much correct.
bodiva88
Referee
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There aren't any answers. Only choices.
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jun 13 @ 1:40 PM ET
But it's still arbitrary, and rather silly.

Just stop the clock and avoid the arbitrary-ness

- Giroux_Is_God

In hockey, the timekeeper is an employee of the home team. I think clocks in hockey are pretty arbitrary, too. So don't you think having the official in charge of the clock rather than some random time-keeper is a good thing? (of course, there are way more stoppages in hockey, so having the on-ice official do it isn't really doable).
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jun 13 @ 1:41 PM ET
I love Kimmo. I really do.

I don't consider him in that elite tier of favorite Flyers, but it just now hit me that it's silly I don't even give him an honorable mention

- Giroux_Is_God


He's one of my all time favorites. This franchise would have been in trouble without him.
JonnyHammerstix
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.12.2013

Jun 13 @ 1:41 PM ET
Any young prospect Dman that finds their way onto the big club should be paired with Kimmo. I can't think of a better on-ice mentor than him. As smart a Dman as I've ever seen play the game.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jun 13 @ 1:42 PM ET
linesman to call offsides and can be consulted on anything the ref feels he needs help with. Video replay on goals (just on whether they are or are not in, not anything about how they got there).
- bodiva88


I still think they should add one more. Many of the plays happen so far away from any referee.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jun 13 @ 1:42 PM ET
As long as he's removed from the top pp I'm ok with it

In thinking there's no chance of this

Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Jun 13 @ 1:43 PM ET
Any young prospect Dman that finds their way onto the big club should be paired with Kimmo. I can't think of a better on-ice mentor than him. As smart a Dman as I've ever seen play the game.
- JonnyHammerstix


That's why I'm glad he's back another year. Hopefully he can instill some knowledge into the youngsters at camp.
JonnyHammerstix
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.12.2013

Jun 13 @ 1:43 PM ET
He could have gotten more, but he is, in all likelihood, getting $4M. That extra $2M will count against next year's cap.
- PhillySportsGuy




True but whos knows what the max cap will be next year or what the state of the team will be next year. I guess theyll cross that bridge when the time comes. For now I love the signing
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 13 @ 1:44 PM ET
Craig Custance ‏@CraigCustance 3m
Timonen clearly took less to stay in Philadelphia. Would have made more than that on the open market.

- PhillySportsGuy


Can't be true. Players always take the most money, 100% of the time.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jun 13 @ 1:47 PM ET
True but whos knows what the max cap will be next year or what the state of the team will be next year. I guess theyll cross that bridge when the time comes. For now I love the signing
- JonnyHammerstix


Yeah. I like the signing too.

Assuming we need to retain $1.5M in order to move VL, we will have $8.5M of cap space dedicated to 3 players who won't be playing in 2015-16 for the Flyers. (Pronger, Kimmo, VL)
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 12.15.2011

Jun 13 @ 1:47 PM ET
In hockey, the timekeeper is an employee of the home team. I think clocks in hockey are pretty arbitrary, too. So don't you think having the official in charge of the clock rather than some random time-keeper is a good thing? (of course, there are way more stoppages in hockey, so having the on-ice official do it isn't really doable).
- bodiva88

It's not the same thing.

Soccer refs say "3 minutes sounds good" and then actually end the game when it "looks ok" i.e. after the defense kicks the ball 300 feet down the field.

It's so...meh.

Each soccer game is a different length, probably by a few minutes too. Which is ridiculous. Fine, go head an argue pressing the button takes a half second off the time, but you see refs all the time go to Toronto to reset the clock to the time it needs to be set to.

I'm done with soccer. I'll watch the world cup and that's about it. Sports are like music. I think house music is terrible, but there's no sense arguing about it with someone who likes to listen to it because nothing is going to change.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Jun 13 @ 1:47 PM ET
#ForeverKimmo
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 12.15.2011

Jun 13 @ 1:48 PM ET
That's why I'm glad he's back another year. Hopefully he can instill some knowledge into the youngsters at camp.
- Streit2ThePoint

Thought the same thing. With Alt, Ghost, Morin, and Hagg all likely to be in the locker room and working out with the team for at least a few weeks in the fall, it's good to know a guy like Kimmo is there with them
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
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Jun 13 @ 1:48 PM ET
He's one of my all time favorites. This franchise would have been in trouble without him.
- PhillySportsGuy

Certainly true
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Jun 13 @ 1:49 PM ET
It's not the same thing.

Soccer refs say "3 minutes sounds good" and then actually end the game when it "looks ok" i.e. after the defense kicks the ball 300 feet down the field.

It's so...meh.

Each soccer game is a different length, probably by a few minutes too. Which is ridiculous. Fine, go head an argue pressing the button takes a half second off the time, but you see refs all the time go to Toronto to reset the clock to the time it needs to be set to.

I'm done with soccer. I'll watch the world cup and that's about it. Sports are like music. I think house music is terrible, but there's no sense arguing about it with someone who likes to listen to it because nothing is going to change.

- Giroux_Is_God


No, you're right. House music is terrible.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
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Jun 13 @ 1:49 PM ET
No, you're right. House music is terrible.
- funmaster18

house "music"
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jun 13 @ 1:49 PM ET
Tim Panaccio ‏@tpanotchCSN 2m
Hextall admits he doesn't know yet what to do about Lecavalier's situation after talks w/Hughes (agent)
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 13 @ 1:49 PM ET
No, you're right. House music is terrible.
- funmaster18


Is dub step considered the new house music? Because that stuff is just noise. Granted, I listen to punk and hardcore, so...
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 13 @ 1:50 PM ET
Tim Panaccio ‏@tpanotchCSN 2m
Hextall admits he doesn't know yet what to do about Lecavalier's situation after talks w/Hughes (agent)

- PhillySportsGuy


He could have him assassinated.
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