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SteveRain
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Connor Murphy Sucks, IL
Joined: 05.07.2010

Jun 12 @ 3:47 PM ET
From what I hear it will be between 8.75 & 9.25...take it for what it's worth.
- UnnamedSource


heard similar. We are off 1 million on total package.
Sundevil
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 04.24.2012

Jun 12 @ 3:48 PM ET
Sharp and Leddy
- mrpaulish


If that is who is ultimately jettisoned after NEXT season to accommodate the raises for 19 and 88, maybe they fast forward that plan by a year and clear the room for Spezza who only has one year left on his deal.....and maybe that is why the Kesler deal doesn't work (2 years left on his deal)
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Jun 12 @ 3:48 PM ET
Yeah...these trades are asinine....

Hey lets trade Bolig and Rundblad for Stamkos!!!!!


- SteveRain



Only if Tampa throws in a 1st and retains 50% of Stamkos' salary.
tomcat24
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Gomer's Pyle, IL
Joined: 06.04.2012

Jun 12 @ 3:48 PM ET
I think the Hawks are going to get a "2C" whether by trade or FA and I think Plex is one of the possible names.
- John Jaeckel

What are you hearing about toronto? Anything new? What players?
EKB13
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.18.2009

Jun 12 @ 3:48 PM ET
only a 45 inch? thats a minnow up north here! Well come for a week in the summer and fish and then in the winter we have 4 WHL teams within 3 hours of each other lots of good hockey to watch.
- SaskHawkFan


Are you offering this "open door" policy to everyone...
EKB13
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.18.2009

Jun 12 @ 3:49 PM ET
Only if Tampa throws in a 1st and retains 50% of Stamkos' salary.
- DarthKane


...but they have too take LeBLAH in that package too. Otherwise, no deal.
SteveRain
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Connor Murphy Sucks, IL
Joined: 05.07.2010

Jun 12 @ 3:49 PM ET
Could trade Sharp and Seabrook

- fattybeef


Could....

Not sure I give up Seabrook.

They don't have many productive right handed D man as it is.....
SteveRain
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Connor Murphy Sucks, IL
Joined: 05.07.2010

Jun 12 @ 3:50 PM ET
Only if Tampa throws in a 1st and retains 50% of Stamkos' salary.
- DarthKane




Where is the 50% Kesler guy at? I miss him.....He was very passionate in that argument, I will give him that.

If Benning wanted to be fired, he does that deal.
Fistafury17
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Wauconda, IL
Joined: 06.23.2010

Jun 12 @ 3:50 PM ET
Doesn't surprise me on Kesler.

Hoping Bowman is looking elsewhere. They need more then just a bottom 6 forward IMO.

Wonder if Philly is where Kesler will land.

- SteveRain


Wonder if Bowman could trade Sharp back to Philly for Kesler if that's where he ends up?
imissroenick
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.02.2014

Jun 12 @ 3:51 PM ET
Hi. Who?
- eburgio


Just saying...our luck he'll wind up somewhere where he can hurt us the most...
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Jun 12 @ 3:51 PM ET
Zack Smith would be a very nice addition, have watched him since jr and hes a good Saskatchewan boy something the hawks need. and his cap hit is very nice.
- SaskHawkFan



JJ mentioned Ottawa and Tampa as potential trade partners. Ottawa would offer more that fits our needs IMO. Smith, Greening, Turris...all good choices.
Hawks82
Joined: 05.13.2012

Jun 12 @ 3:51 PM ET
Tampa Bay centers I would enjoy to see are Johnson, Killorn, and Thompson. I don't think the Hawks need a Nate Thompson type player. He has skill and is responsible two ways but not exactly a perfect ideal fit, especially since Shaw, Kruger, Nordstrom and maybe one other Rockford guy can hold down centering the bottom two lines. Tyler Johnson is a Calder Trophy guy and had a good year. Killorn also had a pretty descent year. I think if the Hawks are moving from Kesler they should make a descent offer for Spezza. Sharp, prospect and mid round for Spezza with Ottawa splitting the difference on the salary and a conditional pick. Make the condition something like 3rd Round pick, drops to a 5th if he resigns with the hawks, 1st round if he doesn't. Obviously Bowman and Murray can fight over that but lets start there. If Oduya gets moved, move him to Florida with Kevin Hayes and the Hawks first with another Rockford guy for Florida's first and take Aaron Ekblad. Kid is an absolute monster. 53 points last season and second player ever to be granted exceptional status in the OHL.
- erhryck


So Florida is going to give up the 1st overall pick for Oduya, a guy the Hawks don't have signed, the 27th pick and a Rockford guy??

Yea...that offer wouldn't get them laughed out of the room.
mohel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.08.2013

Jun 12 @ 3:52 PM ET
I'm going by articles I have read by guys in the know who have been dead nuts on the cap numbers in the past. He said 6 million increase next year. Even at 10%, they are still up against a wall.

We'll see what happens after July 1, but I think more then just Sharp OR Oduya will be going. I think it will be 2, maybe even 3.

- SteveRain


Okay, but I'll wait until the sky begins to fall before beginning to panic. Stan has earned by trust in this area.
FourFeathers773
Joined: 12.02.2011

Jun 12 @ 3:52 PM ET
I think the Hawks are going to get a "2C" whether by trade or FA and I think Plex is one of the possible names.
- John Jaeckel


I really don't see any 2Cs on the FA list...
bjpgallagher
New York Islanders
Location: East Rockaway, NY
Joined: 06.04.2014

Jun 12 @ 3:52 PM ET
What would you guys think of trading :
Sharp to the Islanders for the 5th overall pick and a prospect in return? Especially if Reinhart is still on the board...
Murph76
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 12.07.2011

Jun 12 @ 3:53 PM ET
how'd that work out in the playoffs? Bollig is a joke I'd rather have any 4th liner from NYR or LA
- EnzoD

Almost everybody made mistakes in the playoffs, hell Seabrook got a suspension for God's sake. Go watch iceskating if a more demuire sport is to your taste
RickJ
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Burlington, ON
Joined: 01.12.2010

Jun 12 @ 3:54 PM ET
What would you guys think of trading :
Sharp to the Islanders for the 5th overall pick and a prospect in return? Especially if Reinhart is still on the board...

- bjpgallagher

Are you Charles Wong?

If so, we need more. Tavares and the #5 for Sharp.
eburgio
Location: SF, CA
Joined: 07.18.2011

Jun 12 @ 3:54 PM ET
Just saying...our luck he'll wind up somewhere where he can hurt us the most...
- imissroenick


Yeah, you're still not answering the question. To whom are you referring? Who will wind up somewhere?
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Jun 12 @ 3:54 PM ET
What would you guys think of trading :
Sharp to the Islanders for the 5th overall pick and a prospect in return? Especially if Reinhart is still on the board...

- bjpgallagher



Sharp + 27th for Neilsen + 5th
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jun 12 @ 3:54 PM ET
Are you Charles Wong?

If so, we need more. Tavares and the #5 for Sharp.

- RickJ

SteveRain
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Connor Murphy Sucks, IL
Joined: 05.07.2010

Jun 12 @ 3:54 PM ET
Okay, but I'll wait until the sky begins to fall before beginning to panic. Stan has earned by trust in this area.
- mohel


I don't disagree. Just pointing it out.

July 1st the pieces of that puzzle for next year start to come together a LOT better. We will be able to tell.

For the record, I hate the cap. It's damn near impossible to have a long championship run in a cap era. Your margin for error is miniscule. Kings and Hawks deserve some praise. Penguins have shown what NOT to do.
bjpgallagher
New York Islanders
Location: East Rockaway, NY
Joined: 06.04.2014

Jun 12 @ 3:55 PM ET
Are you Charles Wong?

If so, we need more. Tavares and the #5 for Sharp.

- RickJ


Trading our franchise and the number 5 overall for a guy that the hawks are looking to dump for cap relief... You should be a GM bro!!
bwarner929
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 06.05.2014

Jun 12 @ 3:55 PM ET
If they bring in a $5MM skater now - even for Sharp, say - they still would have to lose at least one core player next year, when the new contracts (Toews, Kane, Saad, Kruger, Leddy, etc.) kick in.
- StLBravesFan


IMO the Hawks will not be dealing with Leddy on a new contract - someone else will. The others - yes!
SaskHawkFan
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: SK
Joined: 05.18.2014

Jun 12 @ 3:56 PM ET
Are you offering this "open door" policy to everyone...
- EKolb13


you bringing the beer?
the_dough_boy
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 07.01.2012

Jun 12 @ 3:56 PM ET
Are you Charles Wong?

If so, we need more. Tavares and the #5 for Sharp.

- RickJ


Sharp, leddy, 1st, (mcneil?) for tavares and the 5th XD
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