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TommyHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 05.23.2013

Jun 12 @ 3:00 PM ET
Still not sure though why people are in such a hurry to trade Patrick Sharp. He's a perennial 35-goal threat and not only contributes on the PP but he is strong on the puck, wins wall battles, is fast, and still has some years left.

I have no problem with the 'Hawks team as is, but if anyone is moved it should start with Leddy. Leddy is blocked by four d-men better than he is and a young d-man who can push the puck and provide some offense is a desired player in this league, especially for teams with lack of defense.

How about a Chicago/Phoenix deal involving Leddy/Hanzal? Hanzal is exactly what the Blackhawks need. He's about to enter his prime at 27, has EXCELLENT size at 6'6" and 230 lbs and he can hit. Play him in between Saad and Kane and let's see just how special he really is.

Of course, I highly doubt Phoenix wants to part with Hanzal, but if the rumors are true that they are indeed shopping Yandle, they will still need another good, young offensive d-man after OEL.

A Leddy/Hayes/2nd for Hanzal/4th works for me.
Hawks82
Joined: 05.13.2012

Jun 12 @ 3:01 PM ET
I think he would be perfect for the hawks TBH. Both teams would be good trading partners. What would you guys be willing to give?
- Frank0721


Most of the good C's being talked about in the market (Kesler, Spezza, Thorton, Plekanic) all carry a cap hit that's $5.00 million +. The one player that has a similar cap hit and high end skill is Patrick Sharp so I would think he'd be the main piece.
EnzoD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Denver, CO
Joined: 02.19.2014

Jun 12 @ 3:03 PM ET


FLIP JUST SIGNED LAST YEAR AND HAD A GREAT YEAR,, HE IS NOT GETTING TRADED

- tampabaydoompatrol


ya idk why they would..every time I watched Tampa he played very well. 200 ft player that Detroit shouldve paid. Sharp would be a nice fit alongside Johnson or Stammer though...and who else could JJ be referring to??
SteveRain
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Connor Murphy Sucks, IL
Joined: 05.07.2010

Jun 12 @ 3:03 PM ET
Still not sure though why people are in such a hurry to trade Patrick Sharp. He's a perennial 35-goal threat and not only contributes on the PP but he is strong on the puck, wins wall battles, is fast, and still has some years left.

I have no problem with the 'Hawks team as is, but if anyone is moved it should start with Leddy. Leddy is blocked by four d-men better than he is and a young d-man who can push the puck and provide some offense is a desired player in this league, especially for teams with lack of defense.

How about a Chicago/Phoenix deal involving Leddy/Hanzal? Hanzal is exactly what the Blackhawks need. He's about to enter his prime at 27, has EXCELLENT size at 6'6" and 230 lbs and he can hit. Play him in between Saad and Kane and let's see just how special he really is.


Somebody(s) have to go. At least 1, probably 2, maybe even 3....all depends on how high 19/88 AAV climbs.....
Of course, I highly doubt Phoenix wants to part with Hanzal, but if the rumors are true that they are indeed shopping Yandle, they will still need another good, young offensive d-man after OEL.

A Leddy/Hayes/2nd for Hanzal/4th works for me.

- TommyHawk


See my previous post. You are going to need to trade some LARGE money to make cap work maybe not THIS offseason but NEXT offseason for sure.
ArlingtonRob
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 230 years was a good run, IL
Joined: 01.20.2012

Jun 12 @ 3:04 PM ET
1. He's a top 4 d-man. They don't grow on trees.
2. He's only 32 and given his fitness habits, is still entering his prime
3. Chicago's win % since he arrived is well north of .600 according
to all the stats. The dude FITS this org like a glove.
4. Leddy is not and may never be a top 4 d-man.

THAT'S WHY

- philco28


I'm with ya Phil...Oduya can stay right where he is.
Frank0721
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 01.27.2012

Jun 12 @ 3:08 PM ET
Most of the good C's being talked about in the market (Kesler, Spezza, Thorton, Plekanic) all carry a cap hit that's $5.00 million +. The one player that has a similar cap hit and high end skill is Patrick Sharp so I would think he'd be the main piece.
- Hawks82


That was originally who I thought. And then I hear rumors about habs looking to add a high end Dman. With JJ saying a trade between the 2 teams would involved mutiple players, it really got me curious now.
EKB13
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.18.2009

Jun 12 @ 3:08 PM ET
See my previous post. You are going to need to trade some LARGE money to make cap work maybe not THIS offseason but NEXT offseason for sure.
- SteveRain


No matter how it works for this season, next summer is going to be interesting for sure. No one really knows how that is going to shape up until Toews & Kane have signed their extensions.
ArlingtonRob
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 230 years was a good run, IL
Joined: 01.20.2012

Jun 12 @ 3:09 PM ET
Oduya, Morin, and either a 3rd or Alex Broadhurst for Nielsen?
- EKolb13


Eli...what's with all the interest in one Frans Nielsen? A smallish center with modest production. Do you envision him being a number 2?
the_dough_boy
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 07.01.2012

Jun 12 @ 3:11 PM ET
JOHNSON EVERYBODY. That is all
EKB13
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.18.2009

Jun 12 @ 3:13 PM ET
Eli...what's with all the interest in one Frans Nielsen? A smallish center with modest production. Do you envision him being a number 2?
- ArlingtonRob


I believe that he would fit that role of #2C for the next season or two. He's also an affordable cap number ($2.75 million for the next two seasons). He's got enough of a two-way game to fit the #3C role if Teuvo pans out.
SteveRain
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Connor Murphy Sucks, IL
Joined: 05.07.2010

Jun 12 @ 3:13 PM ET
No matter how it works for this season, next summer is going to be interesting for sure. No one really knows how that is going to shape up until Toews & Kane have signed their extensions.
- EKolb13


Agreed 100% but I just don't see any large money coming this way unless they deal multiple large contracts back and get low money/prospects/picks.

I also think 8.5 is way low.....NHLPA needs those higher to slide in 2nd and 3rd tier guys. yeah long term means you give up dollars, but there are a LOT of eyes on those numbers from GMs to the players when that announcement comes out in early July.

You may see a lot of guys approach this year like 2010, knowing that IF they are still here in October it may be their last chance to win a cup in Chicago with the same group of guys.

I'll also be curiosu to see if any idiot beat writer does their homework and starts to realize just what faces this team in the next 12-13 months.
ChicagoDave
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 02.20.2013

Jun 12 @ 3:14 PM ET
Leddy and a 2nd for Tyler Johnson - Book it
SteveRain
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Connor Murphy Sucks, IL
Joined: 05.07.2010

Jun 12 @ 3:16 PM ET
Leddy and a 2nd for Tyler Johnson - Book it
- ChicagoDave


Can't see Tampa giving up one of their major building blocks.
EKB13
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.18.2009

Jun 12 @ 3:18 PM ET
Can't see Tampa giving up one of their major building blocks.
- SteveRain


...especially after just extending him...
mrpaulish
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Itasca, IL
Joined: 01.18.2010

Jun 12 @ 3:19 PM ET
Leddy and a 2nd for Tyler Johnson - Book it
- ChicagoDave



5'9'' ...175
RomanF
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Morristown, NJ
Joined: 07.16.2013

Jun 12 @ 3:20 PM ET
Hawks want to get tougher not softer, while Spezza has a tonne of skill hes lacking in both grit and heart.
- SaskHawkFan


I feel like people are missing the forest for the trees with Spezza. Sure he has some warts and sure he's not EVERYTHING we need (big, tough) but he's a world class player. A second line of Saad-Spezza-Kane is freaking scary as hell. Get grit and size elsewhere.
teh_HAWKZ
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 07.03.2012

Jun 12 @ 3:21 PM ET
Can't see Tampa giving up one of their major building blocks.
- SteveRain


Also a Calder candidate. Maybe we can throw in a 7th and get Palat too.
SUDA88
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 02.26.2012

Jun 12 @ 3:22 PM ET
Lars Eller please. That would be my 2C first choice. Hes young and would fit great with Kane and Saad.
mrpaulish
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Itasca, IL
Joined: 01.18.2010

Jun 12 @ 3:22 PM ET
I feel like people are missing the forest for the trees with Spezza. Sure he has some warts and sure he's not EVERYTHING we need (big, tough) but he's a world class player. A second line of Saad-Spezza-Kane is freaking scary as hell. Get grit and size elsewhere.
- RomanF





Agreeeeeeeeddddd.


ArlingtonRob
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 230 years was a good run, IL
Joined: 01.20.2012

Jun 12 @ 3:22 PM ET
I believe that he would fit that role of #2C for the next season or two. He's also an affordable cap number ($2.75 million for the next two seasons). He's got enough of a two-way game to fit the #3C role if Teuvo pans out.
- EKolb13


Fair enough...

I think we're in for an interesting summer. I expect a couple surprises.
UnnamedSource
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Local Mall, IL
Joined: 01.03.2012

Jun 12 @ 3:22 PM ET
Lars Eller please. That would be my 2C first choice. Hes young and would fit great with Kane and Saad.
- SUDA88



to inconsistent.....
UnnamedSource
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Local Mall, IL
Joined: 01.03.2012

Jun 12 @ 3:23 PM ET
Agreeeeeeeeddddd.
- mrpaulish



7 mil for one year....what would you have to give up?
Murph76
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 12.07.2011

Jun 12 @ 3:23 PM ET
Nope, we've got dumb dumb Bollig

- philco28

Yeah, let's get rid of Bollig so we are literally the softest team in the NHL with maybe 2 people who throw decent hits. So f****** sick of hearing people ripping on Bollig, he a fine 4th line forward on any team in my oppinion (as was agreed by MANY people on this board).
Hawksfan37
Joined: 05.11.2012

Jun 12 @ 3:23 PM ET
Possibly Filpulla with some retained salary?

Former Wing, knows the puck-possession style the Hawks play. If you can get Filpulla at $4M that's not a bad option.
mrpaulish
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Itasca, IL
Joined: 01.18.2010

Jun 12 @ 3:24 PM ET
7 mil for one year....what would you have to give up?
- UnnamedSource




Sharp and Leddy
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