Well you've clearly set your mind on that so I wont continue to debate whether or not that its not their only option. I personally think they can build a strong team around Weber in a few years time if they make the right move with Jones and draft accordingly. I'll just leave it at that.
- hereticpride

There's no way that they build a strong team around Weber mainly by using the draft in the next two seasons. It takes much longer then that. And like I said previously, they'd have to get established NHL top forwards for Jones. Not sure I see that happening. Maybe one forward of that ilk, plus prospects and or picks. But not multiple.

@Hope_Smoke: McKenzie "the Sabres are willing to buy first round picks by taking on big salary and then giving that player a compliance buyout"

So Bob says the Sabres will "sell" CBOs for 1st rounders, eh?

No, I didnt mean they're going to get a package of say JVR and Kadri or anything like that but some young forwards that wouldnt take nearly as long to develop as a young D man would. Players somewhere along the developmental lines of where Simmonds and Schenn were at at the time they were traded as an example.
- hereticpride

Well Simmonds and Schenn weren't in the same place developmentally when they were traded. And we're still waiting for the most part with Schenn. And he was traded for how long ago?

@Hope_Smoke: McKenzie "the Sabres are willing to buy first round picks by taking on big salary and then giving that player a compliance buyout"

So Bob says the Sabres will "sell" CBOs for 1st rounders, eh?
- Jsaquella

Cant do that. CBO has come from the team that gave the contract as far as I understand.

No they definitely had knowledge of the game, but they announced it JUST LIKE soccer. Last name heavy, with little cute quips in between
- Giroux_Is_God

Well Simmonds and Schenn weren't in the same place developmentally when they were traded. And we're still waiting for the most part with Schenn. And he was traded for how long ago?
- MJL

Fair enough. Just with the rediculous price tag that come with D men I think they could get themselves on the right track with a move and a smart choice with their high first rounder this year.

Like I said, It still doesnt make much sense to me why they didnt make a move when Jones fell to them at 4.

I'd ship out Brayden Schenn for Josi.
- MJL

So would I. I think that'd be a fair trade for both sides.

@Hope_Smoke: McKenzie "the Sabres are willing to buy first round picks by taking on big salary and then giving that player a compliance buyout"

So Bob says the Sabres will "sell" CBOs for 1st rounders, eh?
- Jsaquella

No thanks.

Cant do that. CBO has come from the team that gave the contract as far as I understand.
- hereticpride

I don't believe that is the case.


http://capgeek.com/faq/ho...o-compliance-buyouts-work

@Hope_Smoke: McKenzie "the Sabres are willing to buy first round picks by taking on big salary and then giving that player a compliance buyout"

So Bob says the Sabres will "sell" CBOs for 1st rounders, eh?
- Jsaquella

The owner has money to burn, I guess.

Fair enough. Just with the rediculous price tag that come with D men I think they could get themselves on the right track with a move and a smart choice with their high first rounder this year.

Like I said, It still doesnt make much sense to me why they didnt make a move when Jones fell to them at 4.
- hereticpride

They may have tried. I'm sure there were a number of teams looking to jump up to #4 when Jones fell that far. I have to believe Edmonton was very interested and had a lot to offer

They just may not have gotten a strong enough offer.

I don't believe that is the case.


http://capgeek.com/faq/ho...o-compliance-buyouts-work
- MJL

Strange. I could have sworn this came up in discussion last offseason and it was clearly prohibited. Perhaps I'm thinking of contracts signed after the lockout.

The owner has money to burn, I guess.
- bodiva88

Pegulabucks!

Well you've clearly set your mind on that so I wont continue to debate whether or not that its not their only option. I personally think they can build a strong team around Weber in a few years time if they make the right move with Jones and draft accordingly. I'll just leave it at that.
- hereticpride

I apologize if I'm coming off unreasonable. I absolutely see your side. I just feel it's as important for the D to grow along with the forwards as awhole. Nashville does have Josi, Jones and Ellis on D. Rinne in net. Forsberg coming at forward. Trading Weber for skilled forwards should be the easy part.

Pegulabucks!
- johndewar

I guess having Bill O'Brien leave opened up some funds for him.

I guess having Bill O'Brien leave opened up some funds for him.
- PhillySportsGuy

I'm sure James Franklin got some of his own.

They may have tried. I'm sure there were a number of teams looking to jump up to #4 when Jones fell that far. I have to believe Edmonton was very interested and had a lot to offer

They just may not have gotten a strong enough offer.
- PhillySportsGuy

If I recall correctly they didn't seem to waste much time going up to the podium when they were on the clock. Perhaps they already knew Jones was going to fall though.

Strange. I could have sworn this came up in discussion last offseason and it was clearly prohibited. Perhaps I'm thinking of contracts signed after the lockout.
- hereticpride

Yeah, deals signed under current CBA can't be CBO'd

I'm sure James Franklin got some of his own.
- johndewar

http://sports.yahoo.com/n...ing/teamrank/2015/all/all

So would I. I think that'd be a fair trade for both sides.
- PhillySportsGuy

same here

Yeah, deals signed under current CBA can't be CBO'd
- Jsaquella

Okay, I think someone was suggesting trading a newly signed player elsewhere to be CBO'd. Thanks for straightening me out.

@Hope_Smoke: Bob said Sabres would acquire a 1st rounder & a player that was on a big deal & trade back a lesser pick (2nd rounder) & then buy out player

There was a situation where the NHL nixed a deal...TB was going to trade Vinny to Toronto, Leafs would then buy him out & Bolts could re-sign him for lesser hit.

Strange. I could have sworn this came up in discussion last offseason and it was clearly prohibited. Perhaps I'm thinking of contracts signed after the lockout.
- hereticpride

Maybe you're thinking of the Vinny -> Toronto CBO -> back to TB thing?

(late)

http://sports.yahoo.com/n...ing/teamrank/2015/all/all
- PhillySportsGuy

Makes me glad I held onto my season ticket.