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Maximum Signal
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Jun 12 @ 7:41 PM ET
Actually I'm a dweeb.
- CaptainRivet


Glad you have come out of the closet !


Maximum Signal
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Jun 12 @ 7:44 PM ET
Girgensons for Nyquist.


Nyquist/Reinhart/Eichel

- SuperCat


Stop the Insanity !
meta_puck_luck
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Joined: 03.05.2014

Jun 12 @ 7:45 PM ET
Girgensons for Nyquist.


Nyquist/Reinhart/Eichel

- SuperCat


Ok guys, well thanks for the laugh anyway. Abdelater
SuperCat
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo , NY
Joined: 11.20.2006

Jun 12 @ 7:49 PM ET
Stop the Insanity !

- Maximum Signal



Myers & Girgensons to Det, for Nyquist.

Sabres eat some of Myers's contract.
Maximum Signal
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Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 07.11.2008

Jun 12 @ 7:54 PM ET
Myers & Girgensons to Det, for Nyquist.

Sabres eat some of Myers's contract.

- SuperCat


Neither is going anywhere ! Two pieces we are building around . You can't watch the actual games if you think those two are going anywhere . Then we are going to eat Salary . Just quit . Sometimes you can actually make sense . Not so much with this suggestion.
sippyd
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Some unreal areas in the suburbs of Detroit. Buffalo, being smaller, simply doesn't have that.-Prock, NY
Joined: 09.30.2007

Jun 12 @ 7:56 PM ET
Neither is going anywhere ! Two pieces we are building around . You can't watch the actual games if you think those two are going anywhere . Then we are going to eat Salary . Just quit . Sometimes you can actually make sense . Not so much with this suggestion.
- Maximum Signal


Just think, we can keep getting prospects and keep trading them away. Won't that be fun forever?
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jun 12 @ 7:57 PM ET
What for Jimmy Howard?

(Syracuse's own!!)

- SuperCat




so typical, even though syracuse is like a 3 hours drive from Buffalo.
grand-magus
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "...i'd say you were high on mushrooms", GMTM, NY
Joined: 06.06.2014

Jun 12 @ 7:59 PM ET
Myers & Girgensons to Det, for Nyquist.

Sabres eat some of Myers's contract.

- SuperCat



As Bad Santa once asked "are you f#&king with me right now?!"

Should we ship our 1st rounder to Det while we're at it?
Maximum Signal
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Buffalo Sabres
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Jun 12 @ 8:00 PM ET
Just think, we can keep getting prospects and keep trading them away. Won't that be fun forever?
- sippyd


And don't forget sign a never was been Like Callahan to a big dollar - long term deal . That way we can insure our long term mediocrity !


gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jun 12 @ 8:08 PM ET
Myers & Girgensons to Det, for Nyquist.

Sabres eat some of Myers's contract.

- SuperCat



Maximum Signal
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Jun 12 @ 8:14 PM ET

- gerbe75pts



Thanks for that !!!

jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
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Jun 12 @ 8:26 PM ET

- gerbe75pts


That was a funny episode
Nice post sir
sippyd
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Some unreal areas in the suburbs of Detroit. Buffalo, being smaller, simply doesn't have that.-Prock, NY
Joined: 09.30.2007

Jun 12 @ 8:37 PM ET
And don't forget sign a never was been Like Callahan to a big dollar - long term deal . That way we can insure our long term mediocrity !



- Maximum Signal


People just want to watch a better team that may win some without realizing what's at stake. With proposed changes in the draft, next season may be our only opportunity to get our generational player. We are so lousy, we don't have to try to stink. It's not like we're dismantling a decent team or something.
Maximum Signal
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Buffalo Sabres
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Jun 12 @ 9:19 PM ET
People just want to watch a better team that may win some without realizing what's at stake. With proposed changes in the draft, next season may be our only opportunity to get our generational player. We are so lousy, we don't have to try to stink. It's not like we're dismantling a decent team or something.
- sippyd


Long suffering Sabre fans ! Then they will complain about never getting past the first round . Threaten to give up their seasons tickets . Same old song and dance basically. And worship anyone born on this side of the border within 180 miles of Buffalo . Have I missed anything ?
ystoil
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton
Joined: 02.26.2011

Jun 12 @ 10:22 PM ET
Myers & Girgensons to Det, for Nyquist.

Sabres eat some of Myers's contract.

- SuperCat


Nyquist will regress next year I bet. Shot at 18%.

If it was 10% which is a fair bet he would've scored 15 instead of 28 goals.

Still a good player.
stashu
Buffalo Sabres
Location: SC
Joined: 06.04.2008

Jun 12 @ 10:44 PM ET
All this Leino catharsis! If you admire the Wings talent evaluation, you should have followed our lead on that one. Now...what am I offered for Weiss as a floor play?
- meta_puck_luck


Leino
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 12 @ 11:38 PM ET
People just want to watch a better team that may win some without realizing what's at stake. With proposed changes in the draft, next season may be our only opportunity to get our generational player. We are so lousy, we don't have to try to stink. It's not like we're dismantling a decent team or something.
- sippyd



We were in last place with Vanek, Ott & Miller
Adding one or two good (not great) players who can be leaders and take on tough assignments so our kids don't have more than they can handle is a good thing
No need to rush their development
And adding these type guys aren't gonna suddenly propel us out of the basement
We'll still finish last, no need to worry

gerbe75pts
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Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jun 12 @ 11:48 PM ET
Kane denies he was instigator



Winnipeg Jets forward Evander Kane has gone on the offensive, claiming he was the real victim of a Vancouver street fight now the subject of a civil court case.
Kane, 22, was hit with a lawsuit earlier this spring that contained allegations he assaulted a B.C. man in August 2013. Les Makievsky claims he suffered extensive physical and emotional injuries when Kane randomly attacked him outside a bar. He is seeking unspecified financial damages.

Kane has provided a much different version of events in a statement of defence that has now been filed in the Supreme Court of British Columbia. While he admits getting physical, Kane provides a detailed backstory to what allegedly occurred.
Kane, who was born in B.C. and spends much of the NHL off-season there, admits he's known Makievsky for the past four years and identified him as an employee of a downtown Vancouver nightclub.

Kane says he was walking to his home around 2 a.m. on the night in question when Makievsky approached him on the sidewalk. He claims Makievsky was "highly confrontational" and shouting insults at him. No reasons or motive was provided.
"When the defendant (Kane) attempted to walk away, the plaintiff (Makievsky) said 'Let's go' and suggested the defendant should engage in a physical fight with him," the statement of defence reads.

'To prevent the plaintiff from hitting him and to repel a further attack, the defendant responded by punching the plaintiff three times' -- Evander Kane's statement of defenseKane says he declined the invitation to duke it out and continued walking. He claims Makievsky then "charged" at him while "swinging at his head."

"To prevent the plaintiff from hitting him and to repel a further attack, the defendant responded by punching the plaintiff three times," says the statement of defence.
Kane says Makievsky fell to the ground, but quickly got up and took another shot in his direction. Kane says he "pushed him back and told him to stop," then left the area with no further incident.

Kane claims Makievsky was not injured in any way and was back at work the following evening, where he "boasted that he planned to sue the defendant." Kane's statement doesn't say if that was said directly to him or overheard by another party.
To bolster his defence, Kane notes Vancouver police were contacted by Makievsky following the incident and declined to lay any criminal charges based on insufficient evidence.

Kane says he was only protecting himself and "used no more than reasonable force" in the process. He says his conduct "was neither excessive nor unnecessary in the circumstances" and Makievsky's lawsuit should be tossed out of court.
No date for a hearing has been set.

Kane was required by law to file a statement of defence if he planned to contest the allegations against him. He also has the option of filing a countersuit against Makievsky if he feels the original claim is frivolous or malicious, but that has not been done at this point.

Makievsky is being represented by the Vancouver law firm of Slater Vecchio LLP, which specializes in personal-injury claims. Two lawyers involved in the file have refused to comment, saying they will do their talking in court.
Kane has retained the services of the Vancouver firm of Gall Legge Grant Munroe LLP. Kane's agent, Craig Oster, previously told the Free Press it's not unusual for high-profile athletes such as Kane to find themselves being targeted in legal action. The Winnipeg Jets also confirmed they were aware of the legal matter but declined to comment.

In the statement of claim, Makievsky says he was jumped by Kane as he walked home from work in the area of Burrard Street and Barclay Street.
Makievsky claims he suffered a concussion and numerous injuries to his head, neck, back, shoulders, chest, ribs and leg. He also cites ongoing headaches, dizziness, nausea, fatigue and insomnia as a result.
"The injuries have and will continue to cause him suffering, loss of enjoyment of life, permanent physical disability, loss of earning capacity and loss of housekeeping capacity," his lawsuit reads.

Makievsky claims he's also suffered extensive costs for ongoing medical treatment. He also cites "emotional injuries... including injuries to his feelings, dignity, pride and self-respect in all aspects of his personal and vocational pursuits."

Makievsky says these physical and emotional injuries are obvious to anyone around him, and "he is perceived and treated in a different manner by members of the public." No further details are offered, but the lawsuit says specifics will be presented at trial.
"The assault and battery upon the complainant by the defendant was unprovoked and premeditated," the lawsuit reads. "The conduct of the defendant was callous, disgraceful, outrageous, extreme, malicious, offensive, reprehensible and represented a marked departure from ordinary standards of reasonable behavior."

Kane signed a six-year, $31.5-million contract in 2012 with the Jets, who are banking on him to emerge as a bona fide NHL star.


http://www.winnipegfreepr...instigator-262824181.html
Maximum Signal
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Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 07.11.2008

Jun 12 @ 11:54 PM ET
Kane denies he was instigator



Winnipeg Jets forward Evander Kane has gone on the offensive, claiming he was the real victim of a Vancouver street fight now the subject of a civil court case.
Kane, 22, was hit with a lawsuit earlier this spring that contained allegations he assaulted a B.C. man in August 2013. Les Makievsky claims he suffered extensive physical and emotional injuries when Kane randomly attacked him outside a bar. He is seeking unspecified financial damages.

Kane has provided a much different version of events in a statement of defence that has now been filed in the Supreme Court of British Columbia. While he admits getting physical, Kane provides a detailed backstory to what allegedly occurred.
Kane, who was born in B.C. and spends much of the NHL off-season there, admits he's known Makievsky for the past four years and identified him as an employee of a downtown Vancouver nightclub.

Kane says he was walking to his home around 2 a.m. on the night in question when Makievsky approached him on the sidewalk. He claims Makievsky was "highly confrontational" and shouting insults at him. No reasons or motive was provided.
"When the defendant (Kane) attempted to walk away, the plaintiff (Makievsky) said 'Let's go' and suggested the defendant should engage in a physical fight with him," the statement of defence reads.

'To prevent the plaintiff from hitting him and to repel a further attack, the defendant responded by punching the plaintiff three times' -- Evander Kane's statement of defenseKane says he declined the invitation to duke it out and continued walking. He claims Makievsky then "charged" at him while "swinging at his head."

"To prevent the plaintiff from hitting him and to repel a further attack, the defendant responded by punching the plaintiff three times," says the statement of defence.
Kane says Makievsky fell to the ground, but quickly got up and took another shot in his direction. Kane says he "pushed him back and told him to stop," then left the area with no further incident.

Kane claims Makievsky was not injured in any way and was back at work the following evening, where he "boasted that he planned to sue the defendant." Kane's statement doesn't say if that was said directly to him or overheard by another party.
To bolster his defence, Kane notes Vancouver police were contacted by Makievsky following the incident and declined to lay any criminal charges based on insufficient evidence.

Kane says he was only protecting himself and "used no more than reasonable force" in the process. He says his conduct "was neither excessive nor unnecessary in the circumstances" and Makievsky's lawsuit should be tossed out of court.
No date for a hearing has been set.

Kane was required by law to file a statement of defence if he planned to contest the allegations against him. He also has the option of filing a countersuit against Makievsky if he feels the original claim is frivolous or malicious, but that has not been done at this point.

Makievsky is being represented by the Vancouver law firm of Slater Vecchio LLP, which specializes in personal-injury claims. Two lawyers involved in the file have refused to comment, saying they will do their talking in court.
Kane has retained the services of the Vancouver firm of Gall Legge Grant Munroe LLP. Kane's agent, Craig Oster, previously told the Free Press it's not unusual for high-profile athletes such as Kane to find themselves being targeted in legal action. The Winnipeg Jets also confirmed they were aware of the legal matter but declined to comment.

In the statement of claim, Makievsky says he was jumped by Kane as he walked home from work in the area of Burrard Street and Barclay Street.
Makievsky claims he suffered a concussion and numerous injuries to his head, neck, back, shoulders, chest, ribs and leg. He also cites ongoing headaches, dizziness, nausea, fatigue and insomnia as a result.
"The injuries have and will continue to cause him suffering, loss of enjoyment of life, permanent physical disability, loss of earning capacity and loss of housekeeping capacity," his lawsuit reads.

Makievsky claims he's also suffered extensive costs for ongoing medical treatment. He also cites "emotional injuries... including injuries to his feelings, dignity, pride and self-respect in all aspects of his personal and vocational pursuits."

Makievsky says these physical and emotional injuries are obvious to anyone around him, and "he is perceived and treated in a different manner by members of the public." No further details are offered, but the lawsuit says specifics will be presented at trial.
"The assault and battery upon the complainant by the defendant was unprovoked and premeditated," the lawsuit reads. "The conduct of the defendant was callous, disgraceful, outrageous, extreme, malicious, offensive, reprehensible and represented a marked departure from ordinary standards of reasonable behavior."

Kane signed a six-year, $31.5-million contract in 2012 with the Jets, who are banking on him to emerge as a bona fide NHL star.


http://www.winnipegfreepr...instigator-262824181.html

- gerbe75pts


Quite a story . Sounds like sue someone and get rich . It is his actions on his team that concern me.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 12 @ 11:55 PM ET
Kane denies he was instigator



Winnipeg Jets forward Evander Kane has gone on the offensive, claiming he was the real victim of a Vancouver street fight now the subject of a civil court case.
Kane, 22, was hit with a lawsuit earlier this spring that contained allegations he assaulted a B.C. man in August 2013. Les Makievsky claims he suffered extensive physical and emotional injuries when Kane randomly attacked him outside a bar. He is seeking unspecified financial damages.

Kane has provided a much different version of events in a statement of defence that has now been filed in the Supreme Court of British Columbia. While he admits getting physical, Kane provides a detailed backstory to what allegedly occurred.
Kane, who was born in B.C. and spends much of the NHL off-season there, admits he's known Makievsky for the past four years and identified him as an employee of a downtown Vancouver nightclub.

Kane says he was walking to his home around 2 a.m. on the night in question when Makievsky approached him on the sidewalk. He claims Makievsky was "highly confrontational" and shouting insults at him. No reasons or motive was provided.
"When the defendant (Kane) attempted to walk away, the plaintiff (Makievsky) said 'Let's go' and suggested the defendant should engage in a physical fight with him," the statement of defence reads.

'To prevent the plaintiff from hitting him and to repel a further attack, the defendant responded by punching the plaintiff three times' -- Evander Kane's statement of defenseKane says he declined the invitation to duke it out and continued walking. He claims Makievsky then "charged" at him while "swinging at his head."

"To prevent the plaintiff from hitting him and to repel a further attack, the defendant responded by punching the plaintiff three times," says the statement of defence.
Kane says Makievsky fell to the ground, but quickly got up and took another shot in his direction. Kane says he "pushed him back and told him to stop," then left the area with no further incident.

Kane claims Makievsky was not injured in any way and was back at work the following evening, where he "boasted that he planned to sue the defendant." Kane's statement doesn't say if that was said directly to him or overheard by another party.
To bolster his defence, Kane notes Vancouver police were contacted by Makievsky following the incident and declined to lay any criminal charges based on insufficient evidence.

Kane says he was only protecting himself and "used no more than reasonable force" in the process. He says his conduct "was neither excessive nor unnecessary in the circumstances" and Makievsky's lawsuit should be tossed out of court.
No date for a hearing has been set.

Kane was required by law to file a statement of defence if he planned to contest the allegations against him. He also has the option of filing a countersuit against Makievsky if he feels the original claim is frivolous or malicious, but that has not been done at this point.

Makievsky is being represented by the Vancouver law firm of Slater Vecchio LLP, which specializes in personal-injury claims. Two lawyers involved in the file have refused to comment, saying they will do their talking in court.
Kane has retained the services of the Vancouver firm of Gall Legge Grant Munroe LLP. Kane's agent, Craig Oster, previously told the Free Press it's not unusual for high-profile athletes such as Kane to find themselves being targeted in legal action. The Winnipeg Jets also confirmed they were aware of the legal matter but declined to comment.

In the statement of claim, Makievsky says he was jumped by Kane as he walked home from work in the area of Burrard Street and Barclay Street.
Makievsky claims he suffered a concussion and numerous injuries to his head, neck, back, shoulders, chest, ribs and leg. He also cites ongoing headaches, dizziness, nausea, fatigue and insomnia as a result.
"The injuries have and will continue to cause him suffering, loss of enjoyment of life, permanent physical disability, loss of earning capacity and loss of housekeeping capacity," his lawsuit reads.

Makievsky claims he's also suffered extensive costs for ongoing medical treatment. He also cites "emotional injuries... including injuries to his feelings, dignity, pride and self-respect in all aspects of his personal and vocational pursuits."

Makievsky says these physical and emotional injuries are obvious to anyone around him, and "he is perceived and treated in a different manner by members of the public." No further details are offered, but the lawsuit says specifics will be presented at trial.
"The assault and battery upon the complainant by the defendant was unprovoked and premeditated," the lawsuit reads. "The conduct of the defendant was callous, disgraceful, outrageous, extreme, malicious, offensive, reprehensible and represented a marked departure from ordinary standards of reasonable behavior."

Kane signed a six-year, $31.5-million contract in 2012 with the Jets, who are banking on him to emerge as a bona fide NHL star.


http://www.winnipegfreepr...instigator-262824181.html

- gerbe75pts



Assuming this means they want to move him...
Do we want him?
And do we wanna give up all it would take to get him?


Maximum Signal
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Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 07.11.2008

Jun 12 @ 11:57 PM ET
We were in last place with Vanek, Ott & Miller
Adding one or two good (not great) players who can be leaders and take on tough assignments so our kids don't have more than they can handle is a good thing
No need to rush their development
And adding these type guys aren't gonna suddenly propel us out of the basement
We'll still finish last, no need to worry

- jdfitz77


There will be no kids . The kids will be in the AHL or junior this year . . A year early for character players . Voids will be filled with short term signings to fill voids . Not right time to sign pricey free agents . Not the right time to trade assets either . We need to build more assets and spend another year judging the ones we have.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 13 @ 12:09 AM ET
There will be no kids . The kids will be in the AHL or junior this year . . A year early for character players . Voids will be filled with short term signings to fill voids . Not right time to sign pricey free agents . Not the right time to trade assets either . We need to build more assets and spend another year judging the ones we have.
- Maximum Signal



Stafford, Stewart, and possibly Hodgson/Ennis could be moved
We WILL have Girgensons in the lineup
Our top pick COULD be (yes, I know what Murray said. I'm not taking it as gospel just yet)
Larsson I think has a good chance too, as well as Deslauriers
And what about the defense?
Who do u see as our top7 guys?
Esp if Ehrhoff is traded...
Pysuk & Myers are a sure thing
Risto looks to be 50/50 imo

Maximum Signal
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Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 07.11.2008

Jun 13 @ 12:24 AM ET
Stafford, Stewart, and possibly Hodgson/Ennis could be moved
We WILL have Girgensons in the lineup
Our top pick COULD be (yes, I know what Murray said. I'm not taking it as gospel just yet)
Larsson I think has a good chance too, as well as Deslauriers
And what about the defense?
Who do u see as our top7 guys?
Esp if Ehrhoff is traded...
Pysuk & Myers are a sure thing
Risto looks to be 50/50 imo

- jdfitz77


You are counting on far too many trades . Not happening . Murray is going to access talent make most of his moves at the trade deadline . Maybe Erhoff gets moved at draft . Murray needs more time to access what assets we have.

our top six will probably be

Stafford - Ennis - Moulson
Girgensons - Hodgson - Stewart

Hodgson has a great deal plus need more time to access him.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 13 @ 12:43 AM ET
You are counting on far too many trades . Not happening . Murray is going to access talent make most of his moves at the trade deadline . Maybe Erhoff gets moved at draft . Murray needs more time to access what assets we have.

tour top six will probably be

Stafford - Ennis - Moulson
Girgensons - Hodgson - Stewart

Hodgson has a great deal plus need more time to access him.

- Maximum Signal



I don't think they ALL get traded
Not in the offseason anyways
But if Murray sees a trade he likes he's gonna move on it

Even if trades don't happen...
Myers, Pysyk & possibly Ristolainen are on the roster
Hodgson, Ennis, Girgensons & possibly Larsson, and maybe our top pick

That's still A LOT of our "future" with no leader
How do u figure this is a good thing?

If the right deal/signing presents itself,
I see NO reason to wait

I'm not counting on Moulson to come back, and even if he does, I have no idea what kind of leadership he'll provide
Staff, Ehrhoff & Weber leading the way?
No thanks


Maximum Signal
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Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 07.11.2008

Jun 13 @ 12:54 AM ET
I don't think they ALL get traded
Not in the offseason anyways
But if Murray sees a trade he likes he's gonna move on it

Even if trades don't happen...
Myers, Pysyk & possibly Ristolainen are on the roster
Hodgson, Ennis, Girgensons & possibly Larsson, and maybe our top pick

That's still A LOT of our "future" with no leader
How do u figure this is a good thing?

If the right deal/signing presents itself,
I see NO reason to wait

I'm not counting on Moulson to come back, and even if he does, I have no idea what kind of leadership he'll provide
Staff, Ehrhoff & Weber leading the way?
No thanks

- jdfitz77


You are way caught up with this we have to get a leader now !! Leaders will also start to emerge . Hodgson , Myers and Ennis may step up and surprise you . Hodgson was a captain of his CHL team . Again - Patience is the key. You don't want to make moves just for the sake of making moves. I am sure any moves Tim Murray makes will be well calculated . I am willing to bet he has a plan . He has begin to tell us about it . A few things I have taken from his comments is the kids will get another year to grow and mature before being put in the NHL and there will be no big signings this off season.
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