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Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 11 @ 1:52 PM ET
I think if RNH can stay healthy he'll be fine. Yakupov is a bit of a wildcard and could very well end up being a bust. But you're right, too early to declare them solid picks.
- TobyFlenderson



You could probably declare MAF as a bust at 1st-overall, too... they (frank)ed up by reaching for him at the top of that crazy-deep draft.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
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Jun 11 @ 2:11 PM ET

shutupshutupshutupshutup

- BulliesPhan87



jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jun 11 @ 2:15 PM ET

shutupshutupshutupshutup

- BulliesPhan87

childish.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
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Jun 11 @ 2:15 PM ET
childish.
- jak521

He's a big bully
tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

Jun 11 @ 2:18 PM ET
childish.
- jak521


Just a metaphor regarding those mouthy vegetarians.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jun 11 @ 2:19 PM ET
You could probably declare MAF as a bust at 1st-overall, too... they (frank)ed up by reaching for him at the top of that crazy-deep draft.
- Tomahawk

Especially considering how some of the other goalies turned out.

MAF
Corey Crawford
Jimmy Howard
Jaroslav Halak
Brian Elliot
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jun 11 @ 2:21 PM ET
He will be in the building tonight.

When is the last time the team with the better goaltender got swept in the finals?

TobyFlenderson
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Annex, Scranton, PA
Joined: 06.13.2013

Jun 11 @ 2:24 PM ET
You could probably declare MAF as a bust at 1st-overall, too... they (frank)ed up by reaching for him at the top of that crazy-deep draft.
- Tomahawk

I wouldn't consider him a bust in the traditional sense. He at least contributed to Pittsburgh's winning (and losing) ways. But what a questionable pick, then and now. I can't even think of what their team looks like with anyone else being picked in that spot.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 11 @ 2:28 PM ET
He will be in the building tonight.

When is the last time the team with the better goaltender got swept in the finals?


- PLindbergh31


1997: Hextall (and Snow) vs. Vernon?
If not, 1992: Belfour vs. Barasso.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
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Jun 11 @ 2:28 PM ET
He will be in the building tonight.

When is the last time the team with the better goaltender got swept in the finals?


- PLindbergh31

Q: What do you do for a living, sir?

A: Well, I drive a hearse with a hunk of metal in the back, and take it to where it needs to be, when the time is right

Q: ????

A: I spit shine it from time to time, too
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 11 @ 2:29 PM ET
I wouldn't consider him a bust in the traditional sense. He at least contributed to Pittsburgh's winning (and losing) ways. But what a questionable pick, then and now. I can't even think of what their team looks like with anyone else being picked in that spot.
- TobyFlenderson



Then again, Eric Staal stepping in and playing great might have cost them Geno and Sid, so there's that.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jun 11 @ 2:30 PM ET
He will be in the building tonight.

When is the last time the team with the better goaltender got swept in the finals?


- PLindbergh31


That would mean something if CSP was that much better than Quick, but he really isn't.
eayost
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Into the Void, PA
Joined: 04.14.2010

Jun 11 @ 2:30 PM ET
I hope the season ends tonight so that silly season can start to get into full swing
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
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Jun 11 @ 2:30 PM ET
That would mean something if CSP was that much better than Quick, but he really isn't.
- MBFlyerfan

This too.

In fact, I think Quick is the better goalie in the first place.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Jun 11 @ 2:31 PM ET
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jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 11 @ 2:32 PM ET
This too.

In fact, I think Quick is the better goalie in the first place.

- Giroux_Is_God


I don't agree or disagree. I think each one is better than the other in certain aspects.

When Quick is on his game, he is arguably the best goalie in the league, with Lundqvist right behind him. However, I feel that Lundqvist is on his game more consistently.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
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Jun 11 @ 2:33 PM ET
I hope the season ends tonight so that silly season can start to get into full swing
- eayost

I hope the season ends tonight so I can bathe in the tears of Ranger fans and heartily laugh while I see the players' disappointed faces during the handshake line.

jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 11 @ 2:34 PM ET
I hope the season ends tonight so I can bathe in the tears of Ranger fans and heartily laugh while I see the players' disappointed faces during the handshake line.
- Giroux_Is_God


I hope the season ends tonight with Dorsett and Carcillo unconscious at the end of the game.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
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Jun 11 @ 2:34 PM ET
I don't agree or disagree. I think each one is better than the other in certain aspects.

When Quick is on his game, he is arguably the best goalie in the league, with Lundqvist right behind him. However, I feel that Lundqvist is on his game more consistently.

- jmatchett383

It's certainly close. Either way, I think playoff Jon Quick is the MOST VALUABLE player in the league.

When all is said and done, there's no clear cut winner between Lungkwist and Quick.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
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Jun 11 @ 2:35 PM ET
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- flyer_nutter

Regis is a (frank)in loon
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jun 11 @ 2:36 PM ET
Since we're talking about Brayden a little bit- I'm going to go ahead and say for the 1000th time (between me and a few others on here, that is) that he and Jake would be dynamite together. I really think that.

I've always thought Schenn has good offensive instincts and a great finish. He can really snipe. Put him on a line where he doesn't have to be "the guy" or, at the very least, there's another player who IS "the guy" on his line, and I think he does damage.

Get Jake out there on his wing to drive the puck possession, let Schenner get to the open part of the ice, and plant Simmonds in front of the net. I really think that'd be a good line.

I want to see:

Hartnell-G-Read (There's our first line sniper, people. We don't have to trade for him. He's right (frank)ing there. Even makes that line respectable at ES, between Reader's solid 2-way play and G's decent and improving defensive game)

Simmer-Schenn-Jake (Well I just went out and talked about this one up there. Could be a little exposed 5v5 but we CANNOT have a second line rolled out there as inept as last year's)

Raffl-Coots-Akeson (Good speed, a good playmaker in Akeson and a talented 2 way player in Raffl. I'd like to see Coots see more of an offensive role- i.e. surrounding him with better wingers- but this line capable of being a shutdown line and, if Akeson can play how he did in the playoffs, this line could be nice to roll out there not only for D, but for some offensive production. Who knows...maybe Raffl will play a little looser and not choke so much on golden opportunities this season, not being a rookie and all )

Rinaldo-Laughton-Vinny (The Laughton age is upon us, folks. Let's see what he can do on the PK and with hopefully 7+ minutes each night at ES. The Vinny experiment on the 4th line, in my eyes, was deemed a success. So suck it up Vinny and play there, 4.5 mil or not. Still rather see him traded for a conditional third or some poop)

EDIT: Holy poop that's like the longest and most competent/relevant post I've made here since the playoffs I think

- Giroux_Is_God


Both Voracek and Simmonds are natural RWs. It may take time for one of them to adjust.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
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Jun 11 @ 2:36 PM ET
Both Voracek and Simmonds are natural RWs. It may take time for one of them to adjust.
- PhillySportsGuy

Switch Simmonds and Hartnell then. Do it you won't.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 11 @ 2:37 PM ET
Both Voracek and Simmonds are natural RWs. It may take time for one of them to adjust.
- PhillySportsGuy


Also, in the (limited) time Read has spent with Giroux, there hasn't been much production. Not sure I'd call Read a first-line sniper. Especially when he has a fantastic fit with Couturier.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jun 11 @ 2:37 PM ET
Just a metaphor regarding those mouthy vegetarians.
- tangent_man


PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jun 11 @ 2:38 PM ET
That would mean something if CSP was that much better than Quick, but he really isn't.
- MBFlyerfan


I was being facetious. Lundqvist isn't better than Quick. Anyone who thinks he is has to have their head examined.
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