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PhillaBully
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.20.2010

Jun 11 @ 9:20 AM ET
Let's see what we can match:
C. Lemieux
Barnaby
Domi
Tucker
Avery
Ulfie
Bureau
S. Stevens
D. Hunter
Kaleta

- jmatchett383



No kasperitus?
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jun 11 @ 9:21 AM ET
In searching for your dream Elvis, I came across this one - Andy Kaufman impersonating Nick Cage impersonating Elvis, I think.


- tangent_man

aightwebang17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Typical Montreal, PA
Joined: 07.10.2008

Jun 11 @ 9:25 AM ET
No kasperitus?
- PhillaBully

James Neal
Matt Cooke
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jun 11 @ 9:34 AM ET
Let's see what we can match:
C. Lemieux
Barnaby
Domi
Tucker
Avery
Ulfie
Bureau
S. Stevens
D. Hunter
Kaleta

- jmatchett383


Well, I go back pretty far, so here goes:

Tomas Sandstrom
Man, did I hate this chickencrap piece of poop in the eighties. When Brown crosschecked him in the face, I asked for seconds!!

Dale Hunter
One of the nastiest, cheap shot/late hit artists of all time.

Claude Lemieux
The pregame B.S., the unwillingness to drop the gloves, the annoying smirk. The fact that this piece of garbage has multiple cup rings is proof that the hockey gods suck large donkey nads!

Scott Stevens
Old Mr. headshot, he would be suspended for life under today's rules.

Matthew Barnaby
That franking smirk. As a fan, you just wanted to jump the glass and beat the crap out of him, it would be worth the jail time!

Darius Kasparitis
Old Mr. knee shot. One of the dirtiest players to ever lace em up

Ulf Samuelsson
Another complete and total piece of crap and lover of the dirty hit

Sidney Crosby
The constant whining and diving is just pathetic

James Neal
The worst cheap shot artist currently playing, I hope he blows out a knee!

Matt Cooke
This utter piece of dog poop should have already been kicked out of the league!

Just missed the cut:
The Plager brothers
Terry O'Reilly
Randy Holt
John Wensinck
Esa Tikanen


Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 11 @ 9:41 AM ET
At his introductory press conference as the Flyers' new general manager, Ron Hextall opined that while quick puck movement is at a premium around the NHL nowadays, "if you look at the best defensemen in the league, they're not small puck movers. They're bigger guys that you have some physical play, you have puck movers, you have smart guys."
- bmeltzer


Yeah, it's just one thing to consider... the Kings drafted by that same philosophy, but they still took Doughty over a number of guys that were close with more projectable frames (Petro, Schenn, Bogo) -- pretty sure they aren't regretting that decision.

Taking hulking Teubert over Karlsson later that same round... that one deserves a do-over.

nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Jun 11 @ 9:55 AM ET
* Today in Flyers history: On this day in 1995, the Flyers suffered one of their more heartbreaking playoff losses. In what was arguably the single play that had the biggest effect on deciding the outcome of the 1995 Eastern Conference Finals, Claude Lemieux's long-distance, side-angle goal in the final minute of Game 5 gave the New Jersey Devils a 3-2 win and a three games to two lead in the series. Kevin Dineen scored a pair of goals in a losing cause for Philadelphia

UGH I was at that game.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 11 @ 10:03 AM ET
Without going back and doing math, I think that prospect scouting has become a better (yet still inexact) science than it was in the past. Whether it's due to the internet, better use of statistics, more scouts in different locations, etc. there seem to be fewer (in general) busts. I don't think you'll ever see another Alexander Daigle or Patrcik Stefan unless there's a wide-open, weak draft.
- jmatchett383



Think the big difference now is that draft hopefuls are so much further along than just a decade or so ago. More advanced fitness (unless it comes to pull-ups, lol) more attention to D from coaches at all levels, and their agents are always in their ear now. See a lot more of the kids who aren't as driven fall in the draft... like Nick Ebert, who went from projected lottery pick to Mr. irrelevant.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jun 11 @ 10:12 AM ET
* Today in Flyers history: On this day in 1995, the Flyers suffered one of their more heartbreaking playoff losses. In what was arguably the single play that had the biggest effect on deciding the outcome of the 1995 Eastern Conference Finals, Claude Lemieux's long-distance, side-angle goal in the final minute of Game 5 gave the New Jersey Devils a 3-2 win and a three games to two lead in the series. Kevin Dineen scored a pair of goals in a losing cause for Philadelphia

UGH I was at that game.

- nastyflyergirl


I was watching at home and still remember what I screamed when it happened. It can not be written in here.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jun 11 @ 10:21 AM ET
Think the big difference now is that draft hopefuls are so much further along than just a decade or so ago. More advanced fitness (unless it comes to pull-ups, lol) more attention to D from coaches at all levels, and their agents are always in their ear now. See a lot more of the kids who aren't as driven fall in the draft... like Nick Ebert, who went from projected lottery pick to Mr. irrelevant.
- Tomahawk


Didn't the NHL only adopt the notion of a combine a few years ago?
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jun 11 @ 10:25 AM ET
* Today in Flyers history: On this day in 1995, the Flyers suffered one of their more heartbreaking playoff losses. In what was arguably the single play that had the biggest effect on deciding the outcome of the 1995 Eastern Conference Finals, Claude Lemieux's long-distance, side-angle goal in the final minute of Game 5 gave the New Jersey Devils a 3-2 win and a three games to two lead in the series. Kevin Dineen scored a pair of goals in a losing cause for Philadelphia

UGH I was at that game.

- nastyflyergirl


I was down the shore in Sea Isle watching that game.

It was awful to watch how that game ended after the exciting Game 4 win and taking the two games in NJ after NJ took the first two games at the Spectrum. I really remember feeling like, "this is where we pull past the Devils" after Game 4.

Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 11 @ 10:29 AM ET
Didn't the NHL only adopt the notion of a combine a few years ago?
- johndewar


http://www.thehockeynews....grown-over-the-years.html
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jun 11 @ 10:29 AM ET
* Today in Flyers history: On this day in 1995, the Flyers suffered one of their more heartbreaking playoff losses. In what was arguably the single play that had the biggest effect on deciding the outcome of the 1995 Eastern Conference Finals, Claude Lemieux's long-distance, side-angle goal in the final minute of Game 5 gave the New Jersey Devils a 3-2 win and a three games to two lead in the series. Kevin Dineen scored a pair of goals in a losing cause for Philadelphia

UGH I was at that game.

- nastyflyergirl


so was i. it was the first and last playoff game i ever saw in the spectrum (and was with my brother). i had the pleasure of attending game 4 in nj and witnessed the flyers chase brodeur and tie the series. i was still living in vermont at the time, and drove down for the pair of games. needless to say, the road rage i had was off the charts on the way back. how i didn't get into an accident or get a single if not multiple speeding tickets is beyond me.

anyway...the thing about that goal that pisses me off is the fact that lemieux interfered with lindros in the left circle faceoff in the devils' end just before the goal. lindros ended up on the ice, lemieux got away from him, skated to the right wing, took the pass, went straight down the ice and scored. i still believe the puck was tipped by dykhuis (or haller...i forget who was covering).

that last minute garbage goal by that piece of poop, along with the elias goal in game 7 5 years later, are why i will always hate that (frank)ing team. (frank) them and their (frank)ing fans. jesus, i hate them.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jun 11 @ 10:32 AM ET
julius honka is an unusual name, and certainly doesn't strike me as finnish. i wonder what the lineage is there.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jun 11 @ 10:39 AM ET
He's a honka tonk hockey player...gimme gimme gimme the honka tonk blues...





Get back, honka cat, get back get back WOOO!
FlyersGrace
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pronger "Play the game puffnuts!" , DE
Joined: 07.02.2012

Jun 11 @ 10:41 AM ET
I see today's discussion is going to be exciting...
Or something...
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jun 11 @ 10:42 AM ET
Philadelphia Flyers ‏@NHLFlyers 7m
INJURY UPDATE: #Flyers GM Ron Hextall announced that Sean Couturier had successful abdominal surgery. More info… http://nhlflye.rs/1n5UV2O
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jun 11 @ 10:43 AM ET
julius honka is an unusual name, and certainly doesn't strike me as finnish. i wonder what the lineage is there.
- hammarby31


hobbit?
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Jun 11 @ 10:47 AM ET
Hey Bill,

Since we missed out on Rausmanson guy to the blackhawks have you heard anything about Jiri Sekac?
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jun 11 @ 10:48 AM ET
http://flyers.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=722393

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Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Jun 11 @ 10:49 AM ET
Philadelphia Flyers ‏@NHLFlyers 7m
INJURY UPDATE: #Flyers GM Ron Hextall announced that Sean Couturier had successful abdominal surgery. More info… http://nhlflye.rs/1n5UV2O

- PhillySportsGuy


Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Jun 11 @ 10:50 AM ET
Hey Bill,

Since we missed out on Rausmanson guy to the blackhawks have you heard anything about Jiri Sekac?

- J35Bacher



http://www.hockeybuzz.com...w-ECHL-Affiliate/45/60344
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jun 11 @ 10:52 AM ET
I would have to take the time to think of the names that I hate directly related to the Flyers but as far as a players in general go.

Max Lapeirre...completely unwillingness to drop the gloves when causing huge problems.

Chris Neil...the tough guy who doesn't fight tough guys.

Matt Cooke..dirty

James Neal...head hunter

Colby Armstrong...head hunter and not tough enough to back up his style of play.
PhillySteen
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Scania
Joined: 08.02.2011

Jun 11 @ 10:52 AM ET
julius honka is an unusual name, and certainly doesn't strike me as finnish. i wonder what the lineage is there.
- hammarby31


I did some digging, and Honka means 'old pine' in finnish, so that probably means that its west finnish due to their tradition of taking the surname based on a landmark close to where you lived. Btw Finns can also have Swedish surnames or surnames based on the patriarchs name (Timonen probably means 'of Timo'). Of course, nowadays the surnames are passed on just like in most western countries.
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Jun 11 @ 10:56 AM ET
I did some digging, and Honka means 'old pine' in finnish, so that probably means that its west finnish due to their tradition of taking the surname based on a landmark close to where you lived. Btw Finns can also have Swedish surnames or surnames based on the patriarchs name (Timonen probably means 'of Timo').
- PhillySteen


Geez... I hope Lasse Kukkonen's surname wasn't a Finnish literal derivative of Swedish slang
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jun 11 @ 10:59 AM ET
Pens hire Guerin as Assistant GM.

http://penguins.nhl.com/c...285&cmpid=pit-fb-penguins
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