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PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jun 9 @ 3:51 PM ET
Expressen (Swedish paper) reporting that Dennis Rasmussen, thought to be a target of the Flyers has signed with the Blackhawks
- Jsaquella


Well, this has dampened my day. Why would he go to such a stacked roster? I guess the Blackhawks are going to moving people this summer.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Jun 9 @ 3:52 PM ET

- FrmRusiaWifGlov

oh my
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 9 @ 3:53 PM ET
Well, this has dampened my day. Why would he go to such a stacked roster? I guess the Blackhawks are going to moving people this summer.
- PhillySportsGuy


Hawks are thinner at center than the Flyers. If the Flyers don't move Schenn, Couturier or Laughton, Rasmussen would have to move to wing in all likelihood. Might have been a factor, might not.
FrmRusiaWifGlov
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Land of Single Malts-- St. Andrews, Scotland
Joined: 03.31.2013

Jun 9 @ 3:53 PM ET
oh my
- BulliesPhan87

The internet is a funny thing.
JonnyHammerstix
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.12.2013

Jun 9 @ 3:55 PM ET
Well, this has dampened my day. Why would he go to such a stacked roster? I guess the Blackhawks are going to moving people this summer.
- PhillySportsGuy



They're going to need some low money players when it comes time to pay Kane and Toes.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Jun 9 @ 3:57 PM ET
The internet is a funny thing.
- FrmRusiaWifGlov

I'm desensitized to everything thanks to the internet.
JonnyHammerstix
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.12.2013

Jun 9 @ 3:59 PM ET
I'm desensitized to everything thanks to the internet.
- BulliesPhan87



Love the avatar
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jun 9 @ 4:05 PM ET
Last night I was kind of thinking outloud and I left a long post of rambling, so I decided to try again.
Ron Hextall is coming from a team that has a legit number one defenseman in Drew Doughty. We do not have a Drew Doughty. Getting a Drew Doughty will be a tall task. So I ask, if getting Shea Weber meant keeping both Luke Schenn and Nicolas Grossmann, while not resigning Timonen and shipping Coburn plus to Nashville. Would you do it? The future is bright for Nashville as far as defenseman with offensive ability and nice puck moving ability but they might be missing a capable shut down defenseman if Weber is moved. Laviolette knows Coburn. Laviolette knows exactly what Coburn can do. Coburn might even be to Laviolette, what Hatcher was to Hitchcock in the late 90's. So does it make sense for Nashville to trade Weber for let's say Coburn (who is roughly the same age as Weber), two high draft picks and a young player of theit choosing not named Couturier? Personally I don't think Nashville will ever get fair value for a Shea Weber.

Also would you dangle Voracek to Toronto or Ottawa for Ryan or van Riemsdyk? This isn't a knock against Voracek but I do feel either guy is an upgrade to play with Giroux. While Voracek has nice speed for a player his size, great hands and impressive passing ability, both Ryan and JvR have impressive hands as well but specialize in their accurate shot. We need that. Giroux needs this.

What's on the UFA market just isn't doing it for me. Sure you can fill holes that way but not the way we need. I say try and take advantage of a team that needs to make room for cap space or looking to move on from certain players that clearly have no future where they currently are.
bodiva88
Referee
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There aren't any answers. Only choices.
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jun 9 @ 4:09 PM ET
Do we keep B Schenn?
Maybe

Is Laughton ready?
Maybe

Who do we get for our back-up goalie?
Martin Brodeur

Will Hextall make a move at the draft?
Yes (bowel)

Does Timonen retire?
back to maybe (but no, one more yr with the KINGS)

- mayorofangrytown

You are SO cranky today.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jun 9 @ 4:09 PM ET
Last night I was kind of thinking outloud and I left a long post of rambling, so I decided to try again.
Ron Hextall is coming from a team that has a legit number one defenseman in Drew Doughty. We do not have a Drew Doughty. Getting a Drew Doughty will be a tall task. So I ask, if getting Shea Weber meant keeping both Luke Schenn and Nicolas Grossmann, while not resigning Timonen and shipping Coburn plus to Nashville. Would you do it? The future is bright for Nashville as far as defenseman with offensive ability and nice puck moving ability but they might be missing a capable shut down defenseman if Weber is moved. Laviolette knows Coburn. Laviolette knows exactly what Coburn can do. Coburn might even be to Laviolette, what Hatcher was to Hitchcock in the late 90's. So does it make sense for Nashville to trade Weber for let's say Coburn (who is roughly the same age as Weber), two high draft picks and a young player of theit choosing not named Couturier? Personally I don't think Nashville will ever get fair value for a Shea Weber.

Also would you dangle Voracek to Toronto or Ottawa for Ryan or van Riemsdyk? This isn't a knock against Voracek but I do feel either guy is an upgrade to play with Giroux. While Voracek has nice speed for a player his size, great hands and impressive passing ability, both Ryan and JvR have impressive hands as well but specialize in their accurate shot. We need that. Giroux needs this.

What's on the UFA market just isn't doing it for me. Sure you can fill holes that way but not the way we need. I say try and take advantage of a team that needs to make room for cap space or looking to move on from certain players that clearly have no future where they currently are.

- SuperSchennBros


johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jun 9 @ 4:09 PM ET
Hawks are thinner at center than the Flyers. If the Flyers don't move Schenn, Couturier or Laughton, Rasmussen would have to move to wing in all likelihood. Might have been a factor, might not.
- Jsaquella


This is as good an explanation as any.

I would think he would want to know what kind of ice time he would see at center, special teams, etc...

Could also indicate that Chicago is dumping current roster players.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jun 9 @ 4:10 PM ET
You are SO cranky today.
- bodiva88


CommissionerOfCrankyCity
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Jun 9 @ 4:10 PM ET

- FrmRusiaWifGlov


Where's her costume?
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jun 9 @ 4:11 PM ET
Last night I was kind of thinking outloud and I left a long post of rambling, so I decided to try again.
Ron Hextall is coming from a team that has a legit number one defenseman in Drew Doughty. We do not have a Drew Doughty. Getting a Drew Doughty will be a tall task. So I ask, if getting Shea Weber meant keeping both Luke Schenn and Nicolas Grossmann, while not resigning Timonen and shipping Coburn plus to Nashville. Would you do it? The future is bright for Nashville as far as defenseman with offensive ability and nice puck moving ability but they might be missing a capable shut down defenseman if Weber is moved. Laviolette knows Coburn. Laviolette knows exactly what Coburn can do. Coburn might even be to Laviolette, what Hatcher was to Hitchcock in the late 90's. So does it make sense for Nashville to trade Weber for let's say Coburn (who is roughly the same age as Weber), two high draft picks and a young player of theit choosing not named Couturier? Personally I don't think Nashville will ever get fair value for a Shea Weber.

Also would you dangle Voracek to Toronto or Ottawa for Ryan or van Riemsdyk? This isn't a knock against Voracek but I do feel either guy is an upgrade to play with Giroux. While Voracek has nice speed for a player his size, great hands and impressive passing ability, both Ryan and JvR have impressive hands as well but specialize in their accurate shot. We need that. Giroux needs this.

What's on the UFA market just isn't doing it for me. Sure you can fill holes that way but not the way we need. I say try and take advantage of a team that needs to make room for cap space or looking to move on from certain players that clearly have no future where they currently are.

- SuperSchennBros


You lost me at "dangle Voracek".
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 9 @ 4:13 PM ET
This is as good an explanation as any.

I would think he would want to know what kind of ice time he would see at center, special teams, etc...

Could also indicate that Chicago is dumping current roster players.

- johndewar


Chicago faces an interesting cap issue in the next couple of summers. Bowman has shown he's not afraid to tear things down and rebuild on the fly.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Jun 9 @ 4:14 PM ET
This is as good an explanation as any.

I would think he would want to know what kind of ice time he would see at center, special teams, etc...

Could also indicate that Chicago is dumping current roster players.

- johndewar


Kane to flyers for L Schenn
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Jun 9 @ 4:15 PM ET
You are SO cranky today.
- bodiva88

Yeah, it's been a couple days but I've been keeping it to myself.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jun 9 @ 4:16 PM ET
Kane to flyers for L Schenn
- funmaster18


Kaner could restart the Old City gang.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jun 9 @ 4:17 PM ET
Last night I was kind of thinking outloud and I left a long post of rambling, so I decided to try again.
Ron Hextall is coming from a team that has a legit number one defenseman in Drew Doughty. We do not have a Drew Doughty. Getting a Drew Doughty will be a tall task. So I ask, if getting Shea Weber meant keeping both Luke Schenn and Nicolas Grossmann, while not resigning Timonen and shipping Coburn plus to Nashville. Would you do it? The future is bright for Nashville as far as defenseman with offensive ability and nice puck moving ability but they might be missing a capable shut down defenseman if Weber is moved. Laviolette knows Coburn. Laviolette knows exactly what Coburn can do. Coburn might even be to Laviolette, what Hatcher was to Hitchcock in the late 90's. So does it make sense for Nashville to trade Weber for let's say Coburn (who is roughly the same age as Weber), two high draft picks and a young player of theit choosing not named Couturier? Personally I don't think Nashville will ever get fair value for a Shea Weber.

Also would you dangle Voracek to Toronto or Ottawa for Ryan or van Riemsdyk? This isn't a knock against Voracek but I do feel either guy is an upgrade to play with Giroux. While Voracek has nice speed for a player his size, great hands and impressive passing ability, both Ryan and JvR have impressive hands as well but specialize in their accurate shot. We need that. Giroux needs this.

What's on the UFA market just isn't doing it for me. Sure you can fill holes that way but not the way we need. I say try and take advantage of a team that needs to make room for cap space or looking to move on from certain players that clearly have no future where they currently are.

- SuperSchennBros


Nobody replied for obvious reasons bro.

To put it lightly....on this one, you're 0/2
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Jun 9 @ 4:20 PM ET
Nobody replied for obvious reasons bro.

To put it lightly....on this one, you're 0/2

- Giroux_Is_God


I believe it's bros*
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 9 @ 4:20 PM ET
Yeah, it's been a couple days but I've been keeping it to myself.
- mayorofangrytown


Days?!?!?!?
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Jun 9 @ 4:22 PM ET
Kaner could restart the Old City gang.
- johndewar


I refuse to believe it ever ended
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Jun 9 @ 4:25 PM ET
Yeah, it's been a couple days but I've been keeping it to myself.
- mayorofangrytown


That's all?
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Jun 9 @ 4:25 PM ET
Days?!?!?!?
- Jsaquella

I've broken up the years with a couple good weeks here and there.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jun 9 @ 4:27 PM ET
I refuse to believe it ever ended
- funmaster18


Those crazy, hazy Lupul, Upshall, Frick, and Frack days are over.

Kane could start it all over again.

Kind of like how Sinatra restarted the Rat Pack.
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