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SuperSchennBros
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Joined: 09.01.2012

Jun 7 @ 12:11 PM ET
They're also terrific together on the ice...
- Tomahawk


Where do they rank among Getzlaf and Perry status in terms of being best friends and terrific on the ice together?
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jun 7 @ 12:11 PM ET
Yeah, they would; they can afford that and aren't so draconian that it would irritate them. If it gets to $4-5 million and a first-round pick is in play...I'm just a guy on a laptop but I would believe they might let him walk and take the compensation
- AllInForFlyers


it would depend on the team making the offer. If it was the Oilers, I think they'd let him walk.
SuperSchennBros
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Joined: 09.01.2012

Jun 7 @ 12:12 PM ET
Like schenn and VL. I just used the rewind button to watch some tape.
- PhillySportsGuy

Brayden Schenn and Vincent Lecavalier are best friends?
Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 7 @ 12:12 PM ET
Tbh, I just want him at center and away from VL. He's shown to be a pretty good player when he's given those accommodations.
- PhillySportsGuy



Yeah, they've done all they can to put him in a position to succeed usage-wise, but they've done the opposite in terms of linemates.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Jun 7 @ 12:13 PM ET
it would depend on the team making the offer. If it was the Oilers, I think they'd let him walk.
- PhillySportsGuy


For an Oilers first-rounder in 2015, I'd pack Schenn's poop myself and drive him to Alberta
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jun 7 @ 12:14 PM ET
Faster than you can say Blueberry Pancakes


- PhillySportsGuy

VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 7 @ 12:15 PM ET
For an Oilers first-rounder in 2015, I'd pack Schenn's poop myself and drive him to Alberta
- AllInForFlyers

We finished three picks behind them
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jun 7 @ 12:15 PM ET
Brayden Schenn and Vincent Lecavalier are best friends?
- SuperSchennBros


They go way back
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jun 7 @ 12:15 PM ET
For an Oilers first-rounder in 2015, I'd pack Schenn's poop myself and drive him to Alberta
- AllInForFlyers


Winning
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Put in Matt Read
Joined: 03.29.2011

Jun 7 @ 12:16 PM ET

EyeOn
Baseball
Report: Phillies accidentally traded prospect in 2011 Hunter Pence deal

At this writing, Astros outfield prospect Domingo Santana is batting .297/.374/.493 as a 21-year-old in Triple-A. That good production comes after a 2013 campaign in which he slugged .498 with 25 homers as a 20-year-old in Double-A. In other words, Santana is becoming a potentially important part of Houston's rebuild.

The Astros acquired Santana as part of the 2011 trade in which they sent Hunter Pence to the Phillies. Houston also landed Jon Singleton and Jarred Cosart in that same deal. So it's turning out being pretty costly for the Phils and GM Ruben Amaro.

Why are we talking about this trade almost three years later? Well, here's this most interesting recent nugget from Jose de Jesus Ortiz of the Houston Chronicle ...

Less than two months after they picked George Springer from the University of Connecticut, the Astros sent Pence and cash to the Phillies on July 29, 2011, for Cosart, Singleton, Zeid and a player to be named, which ended up being Santana. In spring training, a Phillies official admitted that Santana wasn't actually supposed to be on the list that was given to the Astros to pick from to satisfy the final piece on Aug. 15, 2011.

Woof. So, by virtue of front-office oversight or clerical error or a game of telephone, Santana wound up on the list of players from which the Astros could choose the final piece of their haul. As Ortiz writes, he wasn't supposed to be on that list. He was, subsequently and wisely, chosen by the Astros. That's ... remarkable.

The Phillies, you see, are quite possibly not a well run organization these days.

(Winks of CBS eye: @paul_boye)



AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Jun 7 @ 12:16 PM ET
Yeah, they've done all they can to put him in a position to succeed usage-wise, but they've done the opposite in terms of linemates.
- Tomahawk


Like you said earlier, he needs a speedy, playmaking winger. Both of them do, really
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jun 7 @ 12:16 PM ET
We finished three picks behind them
- VANTEL


The difference in talent is immense. Would any Edmonton defenseman start on the Canucks?
ystoil
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton
Joined: 02.26.2011

Jun 7 @ 12:16 PM ET
For an Oilers first-rounder in 2015, I'd pack Schenn's poop myself and drive him to Alberta
- AllInForFlyers




The whole point of my post was to get schenn without giving up the oilers 2015 1st

Schenn would be a nice piece to add if we move gagner but schenn wouldn't make us drastically better to risk that 1st.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jun 7 @ 12:17 PM ET

EyeOn
Baseball
Report: Phillies accidentally traded prospect in 2011 Hunter Pence deal

At this writing, Astros outfield prospect Domingo Santana is batting .297/.374/.493 as a 21-year-old in Triple-A. That good production comes after a 2013 campaign in which he slugged .498 with 25 homers as a 20-year-old in Double-A. In other words, Santana is becoming a potentially important part of Houston's rebuild.

The Astros acquired Santana as part of the 2011 trade in which they sent Hunter Pence to the Phillies. Houston also landed Jon Singleton and Jarred Cosart in that same deal. So it's turning out being pretty costly for the Phils and GM Ruben Amaro.

Why are we talking about this trade almost three years later? Well, here's this most interesting recent nugget from Jose de Jesus Ortiz of the Houston Chronicle ...

Less than two months after they picked George Springer from the University of Connecticut, the Astros sent Pence and cash to the Phillies on July 29, 2011, for Cosart, Singleton, Zeid and a player to be named, which ended up being Santana. In spring training, a Phillies official admitted that Santana wasn't actually supposed to be on the list that was given to the Astros to pick from to satisfy the final piece on Aug. 15, 2011.

Woof. So, by virtue of front-office oversight or clerical error or a game of telephone, Santana wound up on the list of players from which the Astros could choose the final piece of their haul. As Ortiz writes, he wasn't supposed to be on that list. He was, subsequently and wisely, chosen by the Astros. That's ... remarkable.

The Phillies, you see, are quite possibly not a well run organization these days.

(Winks of CBS eye: @paul_boye)




- Winning


I saw this. This is absurd if true.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jun 7 @ 12:18 PM ET

EyeOn
Baseball
Report: Phillies accidentally traded prospect in 2011 Hunter Pence deal

At this writing, Astros outfield prospect Domingo Santana is batting .297/.374/.493 as a 21-year-old in Triple-A. That good production comes after a 2013 campaign in which he slugged .498 with 25 homers as a 20-year-old in Double-A. In other words, Santana is becoming a potentially important part of Houston's rebuild.

The Astros acquired Santana as part of the 2011 trade in which they sent Hunter Pence to the Phillies. Houston also landed Jon Singleton and Jarred Cosart in that same deal. So it's turning out being pretty costly for the Phils and GM Ruben Amaro.

Why are we talking about this trade almost three years later? Well, here's this most interesting recent nugget from Jose de Jesus Ortiz of the Houston Chronicle ...

Less than two months after they picked George Springer from the University of Connecticut, the Astros sent Pence and cash to the Phillies on July 29, 2011, for Cosart, Singleton, Zeid and a player to be named, which ended up being Santana. In spring training, a Phillies official admitted that Santana wasn't actually supposed to be on the list that was given to the Astros to pick from to satisfy the final piece on Aug. 15, 2011.

Woof. So, by virtue of front-office oversight or clerical error or a game of telephone, Santana wound up on the list of players from which the Astros could choose the final piece of their haul. As Ortiz writes, he wasn't supposed to be on that list. He was, subsequently and wisely, chosen by the Astros. That's ... remarkable.

The Phillies, you see, are quite possibly not a well run organization these days.

(Winks of CBS eye: @paul_boye)




- Winning

meh
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jun 7 @ 12:18 PM ET


The whole point of my post was to get schenn without giving up the oilers 2015 1st

Schenn would be a nice piece to add if we move gagner but schenn wouldn't make us drastically better to risk that 1st.

- ystoil


An OS wouldn't make sense then. Be much more reasonable to work out a trade.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jun 7 @ 12:19 PM ET


The whole point of my post was to get schenn without giving up the oilers 2015 1st

Schenn would be a nice piece to add if we move gagner but schenn wouldn't make us drastically better to risk that 1st.

- ystoil

your team sucks you can only stockpile so many 1st overall picks before they start leaving you need actual players on the team
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Jun 7 @ 12:19 PM ET
We finished three picks behind them
- VANTEL


Ha! Yeah, but you guys aren't fooling anyone. Your team underachieved with that maniac on the bench and the most clueless GM in modern times upstairs.

Your team is ripe for a rebound with a few shrewd moves
ystoil
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton
Joined: 02.26.2011

Jun 7 @ 12:19 PM ET
your team sucks you can only stockpile so many 1st overall picks before they start leaving you need actual players on the team
- 2Real


I'd use the 1st on a better player than schenn
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jun 7 @ 12:19 PM ET
your team sucks you can only stockpile so many 1st overall picks before they start leaving you need actual players on the team
- 2Real


How do you not get banned more often?
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 7 @ 12:20 PM ET
The difference in talent is immense. Would any Edmonton defenseman start on the Canucks?
- PhillySportsGuy

Shultz would and maybe Mancarin?

VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 7 @ 12:21 PM ET


Ha! Yeah, but you guys aren't fooling anyone. Your team underachieved with that maniac on the bench and the most clueless GM in modern times upstairs.

Your team is ripe for a rebound with a few shrewd moves

- AllInForFlyers



Everyone says that. Our team is getting old.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jun 7 @ 12:21 PM ET
I'd use the 1st on a better player than schenn
- ystoil

sure then all this talk about edmonton's 1st for schenn is pointless
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jun 7 @ 12:22 PM ET


Everyone says that. Our team is getting old.

- VANTEL


So much depends on what you do with Kesler. If Kesler stays, I think you guys are a fringe playoff team.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jun 7 @ 12:22 PM ET
How do you not get banned more often?
- PhillySportsGuy

you don't get banned for telling the truth you get banned for making up rumors
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