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PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jun 7 @ 11:56 AM ET
He had most of his junior success paired with speedier guys like Calvert and Glennie... maybe Read and Raffl might be a combo they could consider. Having them back the D in with their speed might give Schenn a little more room to work with.
- Tomahawk


Tbh, I just want him at center and away from VL. He's shown to be a pretty good player when he's given those accommodations.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jun 7 @ 11:57 AM ET
say no to kesler unless it's a swap for vinny
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jun 7 @ 11:57 AM ET
The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over while expecting a different result

Playing Schenn on the wing is entering that realm

- AllInForFlyers

You could say the same thing about center because he's flipped between the two.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Jun 7 @ 11:57 AM ET
I think you can fully expect Nashville to OS couturier in 2016 . It think they are going to make you pay high for that one .

As a trade I would offer up Tanev and a second for Schenn, but I know Flyers fans would turn it down. He was one of our best Dmen for periods of weeks at a time last year ,but is virtually unheard of out East.

- VANTEL


Offer sheets don't scare anyone; in 2016 Nicklas Grossmann, Luke Schenn and Braydon Coburn all come off the books.

There isn't enough money in the commonwealth of Tennessee to formulate a contract that the Flyers couldn't match in 2016
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
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Jun 7 @ 11:57 AM ET
Eye call test. I watch the games and numbers can be misleading.
- SuperSchennBros


So can the "eye ball test"
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jun 7 @ 11:58 AM ET
say no to kesler unless it's a swap for vinny
- 2Real


which isn't going to happen. WHY would vancouver make this deal?
puckhead17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Old Time Hockey
Joined: 08.14.2011

Jun 7 @ 11:58 AM ET
say no to kesler unless it's a swap for vinny
- 2Real



Maybe your Seals would take him
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
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Jun 7 @ 11:59 AM ET
which isn't going to happen. WHY would vancouver make this deal?
- hammarby31

exactly so kesler isn't coming to philly
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 7 @ 11:59 AM ET
I like Tanev, but no I wouldn't do that.

Couturier, likely, won't ever reach rfa. Flyers rarely let players reach rfa. Schenn is the first in a long time.

The problem with Schenn is his ELC was weird and his numbers suggest a better player than he was. There isn't a person on earth who would take Schenn over Couturier. In reality, Couturier is much more important than Schenn.

- PhillySportsGuy


Maybe if Hextall is not locking up Schenn he is waiting for an offer sheet ?

Maybe he would prefer the picks.

SuperSchennBros
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Jun 7 @ 12:00 PM ET
i still think luke can be a good player for us, but i'd much rather have kept jvr. word is that he's someone the leafs are willing to move, which i don't get at all.
- hammarby31

I read the players they want to keep are Kessel, Bozak, Bernier and Rielly. Everyone else is for sale.

Bozak....really?
SuperSchennBros
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Jun 7 @ 12:01 PM ET
So can the "eye ball test"
- PhillySportsGuy

Not if you know how to use the rewind button.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 7 @ 12:01 PM ET
Offer sheets don't scare anyone; in 2016 Nicklas Grossmann, Luke Schenn and Braydon Coburn all come off the books.

There isn't enough money in the commonwealth of Tennessee to formulate a contract that the Flyers couldn't match in 2016

- AllInForFlyers

I don't think they would care as long as they could drive up the price to payback for the Weber OS.
puckhead17
Philadelphia Flyers
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Jun 7 @ 12:02 PM ET
I read the players they want to keep are Kessel, Bozak, Bernier and Rielly. Everyone else is for sale.

Bozak....really?

- SuperSchennBros


Bozak & Kessel are best friends
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
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Jun 7 @ 12:03 PM ET
Maybe if Hextall is not locking up Schenn he is waiting for an offer sheet ?

Maybe he would prefer the picks.

- VANTEL

i'm not a cap expert but maybe hextall is trying to figure out where he fits in long term?
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
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Jun 7 @ 12:03 PM ET
I don't think they would care as long as they could drive up the price to payback for the Weber OS.
- VANTEL


Nashville should be more concerned about making the playoffs before Shea Weber asks out
ystoil
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton
Joined: 02.26.2011

Jun 7 @ 12:03 PM ET
Maybe if Hextall is not locking up Schenn he is waiting for an offer sheet ?

Maybe he would prefer the picks.

- VANTEL


Most I'd do is go to the 2nd round pick max of 3.36. 1st rounder is a bit risky for the oilers

Would the flyers match at 3.35?
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 7 @ 12:04 PM ET
Not if you know how to use the rewind button.
- SuperSchennBros



VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 7 @ 12:05 PM ET
Most I'd do is go to the 2nd round pick max of 3.36. 1st rounder is a bit risky for the oilers

Would the flyers match at 3.35?

- ystoil

I would think they would match.
SuperSchennBros
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Jun 7 @ 12:05 PM ET
Bozak & Kessel are best friends
- puckhead17

I don't care.
Tomahawk
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Jun 7 @ 12:06 PM ET
I don't care.
- SuperSchennBros



They're also terrific together on the ice...
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
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Jun 7 @ 12:07 PM ET
Most I'd do is go to the 2nd round pick max of 3.36. 1st rounder is a bit risky for the oilers

Would the flyers match at 3.35?

- ystoil


Yeah, they would; they can afford that and aren't so draconian that it would irritate them. If it gets to $4-5 million and a first-round pick is in play...I'm just a guy on a laptop but I would believe they might let him walk and take the compensation
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
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Jun 7 @ 12:09 PM ET
Most I'd do is go to the 2nd round pick max of 3.36. 1st rounder is a bit risky for the oilers

Would the flyers match at 3.35?

- ystoil


Faster than you can say Blueberry Pancakes

2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
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Jun 7 @ 12:10 PM ET
They're also terrific together on the ice...
- Tomahawk

yup artists of missing the playoffs
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
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Jun 7 @ 12:10 PM ET
They're also terrific together on the ice...
- Tomahawk


Like schenn and VL. I just used the rewind button to watch some tape.
puckhead17
Philadelphia Flyers
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Jun 7 @ 12:10 PM ET
I don't care.
- SuperSchennBros


I know, but it was a big deal when Bozak was an UFA, (making Kessel happy)

They have enough problems, imagine pi$$ing off him off.
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