If Richards is bought out, I think he's going to get a sizable offer from someone. He'll, at least, match what VL got from the Flyers. I'm not interested in a deal like that.

If the team moves Schenn, I would look for a less expensive option at center. A guy who can add 30 points, but play very strong defense. It would give Couts the opportunity to see more offensive time.

It would, also, give the Flyers flexibility with Laughton. If he's ready to move up to the 3rd line, they wouldn't have someone expensive blocking him.

Even if the center they acquire doesn't work out, they can look to make a deal for one at the TDL. Third line, checking centers are often available.
- PhillySportsGuy

It would be interesting to see what kind of cash Richards gets offered, but he may still have a soft spot for Philly. I really believe that If B Schenn is traded is must be for defensive help. Their current D core will not take you through a playoff run.

I agree, I would not trade Brayden Schenn for Kesler.
- MJL

Kesler doesn't even excite me as a player anymore. The Flyers in my opinion shouldn't be tempted to give up on any of their youth unless it's for the long term good of the team and an undeniable upgrade.

Kesler doesn't even excite me as a player anymore. The Flyers in my opinion shouldn't be tempted to give up on any of their youth unless it's for the long term good of the team and an undeniable upgrade.
- SuperSchennBros

I agree with this. Flyers finished 17?

A team should only trade for Kesler if they are sitting in the 5 to 10 spot and wanting someone to push them over the top. Otherwise stay on course and build with youth.

Acquino blew it last year by vetoing the Ducks trade. The Ducks were going to part with Rickard Rackel, Sami Vatanen, the 10th pick and the early 2nd rounder. Now Vatanen showed he can play in the playoffs and Rackel looks very promising, too. I can see Anaheim giving up the picks but I can't see them moving the kids now.

I would match that then look to trade him
- PhillySportsGuy

Embracing this hypothetical, I'm not sure trading him after his salary becomes unnecessarily bloated is the best option either.

Embracing this hypothetical, I'm not sure trading him after his salary becomes unnecessarily bloated is the best option either.
- wolfhounds

I think they'd speak to several teams during that 7 day period. They'd get an idea of how much value he would have if they re-signed him.

I really don't see a team offering Schenn $5M+. He hasn't really shown enough to warrant that type of deal.

If the team making the offer is a bad team, I would certainly consider letting him walk for a chance at a high 1st rounder in 2015.

If it's a good team, I would probably match anything under 2 first rounders of compensation.

I think they'd speak to several teams during that 7 day period. They'd get an idea of how much value he would have if they re-signed him.

I really don't see a team offering Schenn $5M+. He hasn't really shown enough to warrant that type of deal.

If the team making the offer is a bad team, I would certainly consider letting him walk for a chance at a high 1st rounder in 2015.

If it's a good team, I would probably match anything under 2 first rounders of compensation.
- PhillySportsGuy

he is young and a twenty goal scorer. IN two years that 5 mil contract could be a bargain. We are paying Alex Burrows 4.5 mil for the next 4 years. Who would you rather have ?

The more I think about it, the more I'm okay with trading both Schenn brothers in the right deal. Would also offer up Coburn and our 1st to make team better.

Coburn will price himself out of town, as will likely both Schenns at some point.

I think they'd speak to several teams during that 7 day period. They'd get an idea of how much value he would have if they re-signed him.

I really don't see a team offering Schenn $5M+. He hasn't really shown enough to warrant that type of deal.

If the team making the offer is a bad team, I would certainly consider letting him walk for a chance at a high 1st rounder in 2015.

If it's a good team, I would probably match anything under 2 first rounders of compensation.
- PhillySportsGuy

Agreed -- can't be scared of offer sheets. Either you pay the player or you take the picks, and as much as i want to see Brayden Schenn fulfill his potential as a Flyer, he has not done so to the degree where you match at all costs

I'm truly not worried about it-- Schenn's replaceable. And again, I'm a supporter of the guy

and if he goes to detroit they will somehow teach him how to start missing the goalie
- hogweed

exactly. nightmare.

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I don't think there's any soft spot. Hated the media circus, dissed the fans after he left, and was completely blindsided by being traded.

Embracing this hypothetical, I'm not sure trading him after his salary becomes unnecessarily bloated is the best option either.
- wolfhounds

Well, and once you've matched, you're stuck with him for at least a year before you CAN trade him. If he lives up to the contract, do you want to at that point. If he doesn't, who takes him then.

he is young and a twenty goal scorer. IN two years that 5 mil contract could be a bargain. We are paying Alex Burrows 4.5 mil for the next 4 years. Who would you rather have ?
- VANTEL

I like Schenn and would like to keep him. He does have his flaws though. His point numbers are a bit misleading because he was given sheltered minutes all season. Much of that had to do with playing with VL. Couts 39 points are much more impressive than Schenn's 41 points.

I think with the right linemates and consistent ice time, Schenn is currently a 45-50 point player with a fairly neutral Corsi.

I worry about Schenn's upside though. He hasn't demonstrated to be great at any one skill. He's average defensively, average skating, average puck handling, above average wrist shot and above average physically. People raved about his hockey sense when he came out of the draft. I haven't seen much of that yet.

He scores many of his goals in front of the net. There's nothing wrong with that, but guys like that rely more on the players around them to make things happen. I'd like to see him use his strength a bit more in protecting the puck and holding it. He gets a little too fancy at times and ends up losing control.

I want them to keep Schenn and allow him to develop, but I'm not sure how much better he'll be than a 45-55 point player who needs to be sheltered a bit. That's a good player, but is it worth 2 first round picks or a top 10 pick in a very strong draft? Once they match that offer, Schenn's value would decrease because he'd be getting overpaid.

An OS would throw a wrench into things for the Flyers. I just don't see why another team would commit that much money and assets to a guy who hasn't shown he can carry a 2nd line yet.

Agreed -- can't be scared of offer sheets. Either you pay the player or you take the picks, and as much as i want to see Brayden Schenn fulfill his potential as a Flyer, he has not done so to the degree where you match at all costs

I'm truly not worried about it-- Schenn's replaceable. And again, I'm a supporter of the guy
- AllInForFlyers

I wouldn't view a player as replaceable to rationalize the possiblity of losing him. Schenn is very young. He's what? 22? He might not reach his potential until he's 25, which I'm fine with waiting. He's coming off a 20 goal season and there is still room to give him more responsibility. I personally think he should be killing penalties. Jake Voracek signed something like 2.25 million for one year when traded to the Flyers while entering his fourth season. This is where Schenn is at within his career, except Schenn has the goals Voracek did not. We might not like the cap hit but we should definitely retain him.

I don't think there's any soft spot. Hated the media circus, dissed the fans after he left, and was completely blindsided by being traded.
- bodiva88

frick? yeah. he's not coming back here.

I wouldn't view a player as replaceable to rationalize the possiblity of losing him. Schenn is very young. He's what? 22? He might reach his potential until he's 25, which I'm fine with waiting. He's coming off a 20 goal season and there is still room to give him more responsibility. I personally think he should be killing penalties. Jake Voracek signed something like 2.25 million for one year when traded to the Flyers while entering his fourth season. This is where Schenn is at within his career, except Schenn has the goals Voracek did not. We might not like the cap hit but we should definitely retain him.
- SuperSchennBros

you just want him because you're superschennbros.

frick? yeah. he's not coming back here.
- hammarby31

I think he would if the Flyers offered the most money. He just doesn't fill any current need and his signing would be mostly for sentimental reasons.

I like Schenn and would like to keep him. He does have his flaws though. His point numbers are a bit misleading because he was given sheltered minutes all season. Much of that had to do with playing with VL. Couts 39 points are much more impressive than Schenn's 41 points.

I think with the right linemates and consistent ice time, Schenn is currently a 45-50 point player with a fairly neutral Corsi.

I worry about Schenn's upside though. He hasn't demonstrated to be great at any one skill. He's average defensively, average skating, average puck handling, above average wrist shot and above average physically. People raved about his hockey sense when he came out of the draft. I haven't seen much of that yet.

He scores many of his goals in front of the net. There's nothing wrong with that, but guys like that rely more on the players around them to make things happen. I'd like to see him use his strength a bit more in protecting the puck and holding it. He gets a little too fancy at times and ends up losing control.

I want them to keep Schenn and allow him to develop, but I'm not sure how much better he'll be than a 45-55 point player who needs to be sheltered a bit. That's a good player, but is it worth 2 first round picks or a top 10 pick in a very strong draft? Once they match that offer, Schenn's value would decrease because he'd be getting overpaid.

An OS would throw a wrench into things for the Flyers. I just don't see why another team would commit that much money and assets to a guy who hasn't shown he can carry a 2nd line yet.
- PhillySportsGuy

As much of as I am not a Sedins fan, I admit they can make things happen. To have a guy in front of the net moping things up is exactly what we need.

I think he would if the Flyers offered the most money. He just doesn't fill any current need and his signing would be mostly for sentimental reasons.
- PhillySportsGuy

i don't see it happening. i don't think he's done anything in LA that would warrant the flyers wanting him back for "the most money".

i don't see it happening. i don't think he's done anything in LA that would warrant the flyers wanting him back for "the most money".
- hammarby31

Yeah taking other teams throw always didn't work out for the Canucks . I suggest staying clear of of other teams rejects ,it turns into a cluster(frank).

Even now Flyer fans want to rid Vinny. You don't want another contract that you want to throw away.

As much of as I am not a Sedins fan, I admit they can make things happen. To have a guy in front of the net moping things up is exactly what we need.
- VANTEL

It would behoove the Canucks to work out a trade rather than sign an OS for B Schenn. I think the Flyers would match anything less than 2 first rounders. If the Canucks are willing to part with 2 first rounders, they might as well work out a trade and save money on the deal.

i don't see it happening. i don't think he's done anything in LA that would warrant the flyers wanting him back for "the most money".
- hammarby31

I agree. He will get more than $4M on the open market. He's better than VL, but it would be a similar situation where the team is signing a free agent at a position they don't need.

It would behoove the Canucks to work out a trade rather than sign an OS for B Schenn. I think the Flyers would match anything less than 2 first rounders. If the Canucks are willing to part with 2 first rounders, they might as well work out a trade and save money on the deal.
- PhillySportsGuy

It jumps from a first a second and a third to 4x firsts . There is no two firsts

I like Schenn and would like to keep him. He does have his flaws though. His point numbers are a bit misleading because he was given sheltered minutes all season. Much of that had to do with playing with VL. Couts 39 points are much more impressive than Schenn's 41 points.
- PhillySportsGuy

I'm sure you're going to assume that I'm just picking on you but this sort of thinking to me is like blaming Lecavalier for World Hunger or your Milk going Sour. Lecavalier spent a large part of the first half of the season injured, he saw a large amount of time in late December and early January playing with Couturier and Read. Then in April as you love to point out, he was centering the fouth line. Brayden Schenn has to find it within himself to improve his play and this has nothing to do with anyone else. Schenn had 8 minutes in penalties during the playoffs, each penalty unnecessary.

you just want him because you're superschennbros.
- hammarby31

I want to keep him so we don't continue making the same mistakes of the past. Sharp, Williams, Richards and Carter are a daily discussion. All of which have recently played hockey.