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jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 5 @ 3:40 PM ET
Do you feel like Dal Colle benefited from Laughton's emergence, was it the other way around, or was it mutual?
- Tomahawk


It was mutual, like Carter and Lupul, or Richards and Hartnell, or Lupul and Richards, or Hartnell and Carter, or Hartnell and Lupul, or Richards and Carter, or Carcillo and penalties.

Wait, what was the question?
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Jun 5 @ 3:40 PM ET
To a degree for much of the 2nd half of the season they were on different lines.......He played about as much with Cole Cassels as he did with Laughton.
- ob18

Yeah, I didn't see much of their early season games but that couldn't be more true.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jun 5 @ 3:40 PM ET
No Milano?
- Feanor


What? No more (frank)in' Milano?

/AJ Soprano'd
Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 5 @ 3:41 PM ET
To a degree for much of the 2nd half of the season they were on different lines.......He played about as much with Cole Cassels as he did with Laughton.
- ob18


They didn't always play together and both excelled separately. Together they really dazzled.
- mayorofangrytown



Thanks, good to know.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 5 @ 3:42 PM ET
McCann should be gone but as a Centermen even if he isn't adding another one is overkill even though the Flyers draft Best possible player. Tuch and Larkin are what I call 'USHL overrated.' The Flyers need some SKILL and SPEED. We have big grinders and depth but Giroux and possibly Voracek are the only guys who can dangle. Schenn and Coots have the ability but they aren't showing it enough yet. Thats why it may be a risk but taking a risk on skill guys like Fabbri, Fiala, and Goldobin could prove beneficial. Barbashev is pure offensive magic, I'd love for Philly to take a chance ob the Russian LW. But they won't. I also love Honka and Mckweon on D.
- Slipperypickle


I say just go the BPA route in this draft. No reaches or anything. Don't go ultra safe with a checking line winger, but don't go for the "home run or strikeout" either.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jun 5 @ 3:42 PM ET
McCann should be gone but as a Centermen even if he isn't adding another one is overkill even though the Flyers draft Best possible player. Tuch and Larkin are what I call 'USHL overrated.' The Flyers need some SKILL and SPEED. We have big grinders and depth but Giroux and possibly Voracek are the only guys who can dangle. Schenn and Coots have the ability but they aren't showing it enough yet. Thats why it may be a risk but taking a risk on skill guys like Fabbri, Fiala, and Goldobin could prove beneficial. Barbashev is pure offensive magic, I'd love for Philly to take a chance ob the Russian LW. But they won't. I also love Honka and Mckweon on D.
- Slipperypickle


I put him on my list because I feel he could slide & so do some I've asked about him.

I like Honk, McKeown is a mystery as he doesn't do any 1 thing good, talked to one scouting group who doesn't even think he's a 1st rounder let alone at #17.

I am liking Jakub Vrana more and more
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jun 5 @ 3:43 PM ET
Yeah, I didn't see much of their early season games but that couldn't be more true.
- mayorofangrytown


Watched every single game Laughton played with them & some he didn't while he was at the WJC and suspended.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jun 5 @ 3:46 PM ET
I put him on my list because I feel he could slide & so do some I've asked about him.

I like Honk, McKeown is a mystery as he doesn't do any 1 thing good, talked to one scouting group who doesn't even think he's a 1st rounder let alone at #17.

I am liking Jakub Vrana more and more

- ob18

He and Pastrnak are my hopefuls, which unfortunately bodes well for them. Flyers will likely end up taking Reid Gardiner
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jun 5 @ 3:46 PM ET
I say just go the BPA route in this draft. No reaches or anything. Don't go ultra safe with a checking line winger, but don't go for the "home run or strikeout" either.
- jmatchett383


They should, they should also see if they can move back some & gain an extra pick or 2
Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 5 @ 3:47 PM ET
I say just go the BPA route in this draft. No reaches or anything. Don't go ultra safe with a checking line winger, but don't go for the "home run or strikeout" either.
- jmatchett383



Some years, playing it safe lands you Jeff Carter or Sean Couturier. Other years, it could mean you end up w/ Colton Gillies.

This looks like one of those drafts where you might want to take on more risk.
JonnyHammerstix
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.12.2013

Jun 5 @ 3:48 PM ET
I competely understand those that would balk at giving up 4 first round picks. That's an understandable position. But to say that the Flyers dodged a bullet when Nashville matched, is a foolish statement. The Flyers would have gained a star level defenseman, that is still relatively young. And a player that would have drastically upgraded the team. You don't get that chance very often.
- MJL



Meh I wouldn't call it that. It's certainly a valid argument that they did dodge a bullet even though I dont necessarily agree with it.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Jun 5 @ 3:48 PM ET
Watched every single game Laughton played with them & some he didn't while he was at the WJC and suspended.
- ob18

I think I caught all of their games after the new year. I had to figure out how to handle all the games that were available to me this season. By January I had found a groove.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jun 5 @ 3:49 PM ET
It was mutual, like Carter and Lupul, or Richards and Hartnell, or Lupul and Richards, or Hartnell and Carter, or Hartnell and Lupul, or Richards and Carter, or Carcillo and penalties.

Wait, what was the question?

- jmatchett383


/dying
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jun 5 @ 3:50 PM ET
He and Pasternak are my hopefuls, which unfortunately bodes well for them. Flyers will likely end up taking Reid Gardiner
- jak521



Jakub Vrana
Dylan Larkin
David Pastrnak
Julius Honka
Kevin Fiala

I'd consider others even not on my list

ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jun 5 @ 3:54 PM ET
He and Pastrnak are my hopefuls, which unfortunately bodes well for them. Flyers will likely end up taking Reid Gardiner
- jak521


Roland McKeown is interesting, he does have a nice shot and decent offensive game and is working on how he plays in his own zone.............maybe if they moved back towards the end of round 1 if anything.
JonnyHammerstix
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.12.2013

Jun 5 @ 3:58 PM ET
I'm always going for going after BPA regardless of position but I would really like the Flyers to target a possible high-risk but high-ceiling forward with skill, preferably a natural winger. We have some pretty solid D prospects in the system and very few quality forward prospects. It's like bizarro world around here.
Slipperypickle
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Saskatoon, SK
Joined: 07.24.2011

Jun 5 @ 4:04 PM ET
Roland McKeown is interesting, he does have a nice shot and decent offensive game and is working on how he plays in his own zone.............maybe if they moved back towards the end of round 1 if anything.
- ob18


Well what if Philadelphia offered the 17 and 48 to Anaheim for their 24 and 38? Anaheim already has a top ten pick as well.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Jun 5 @ 4:06 PM ET
Sharks trade Boyle to the Isles
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jun 5 @ 4:08 PM ET
Well what if Philadelphia offered the 17 and 48 to Anaheim for their 24 and 38? Anaheim already has a top ten pick as well.
- Slipperypickle


What need do the Ducks have to make this offer.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Jun 5 @ 4:10 PM ET
What need do the Ducks have to make this offer.
- ob18

That trade only works on the draft floor if Anaheim wants to leap up because their player won't drop.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jun 5 @ 4:10 PM ET
If you can make that happen I'll buy you all the cannolis you can eat brother.
- mayorofangrytown

OK so I'm dreaming big.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jun 5 @ 4:11 PM ET
That trade only works on the draft floor if Anaheim wants to leap up because their player won't drop.
- mayorofangrytown


And with the 10th pick their own 1st can be taking whoever falls to them, if Anahiem makes a move I'd imagine it's to gain an extra 1st in 2015
-davies-
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A medical emergency involving you.
Joined: 08.05.2013

Jun 5 @ 4:13 PM ET
Sharks trade Boyle to the Isles
- mayorofangrytown



wut
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jun 5 @ 4:13 PM ET
Sharks trade Boyle to the Isles
- mayorofangrytown


Yep.

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=454072
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jun 5 @ 4:15 PM ET
wut
- -davies-

he'll be a Flyer in 2 yrs, we are collecting fishstick D men
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