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Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 5 @ 12:44 PM ET
I just feel this team feels too much pressure to win now. I feel like JVR for Schenn doesn't happen if the team is content to go into the season with a weak defense then address it later.
- PhillySportsGuy



Pretty much... even under a persistent win-now mindset, they still don't have to approach every summer like they have to have all the openings filled and all the questions answered by October 1... at the cost of organizational agility and flexibility throughout the rest of the year.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jun 5 @ 12:45 PM ET
Same here. I don't want to see Hexy go out and land someone like Niskanen because he's that guy

He's not worth 7 mil. No way. He's had one good season. Imagine if he regresses not playing with Malkin, Crosby, Maatta....yikes. That's a 7 mil/7 year deal there.


- Giroux_Is_God

He's not a true #1 but someone is going to pay him to be that guy.

If they have to trade BSchenn to get a #1 D guy then do it.

Otherwise I hope they just make smaller moves to address some other needs, getting more speed and skill on the bottom six forwards, figuring out what they are going to do with VL, and getting BSchenn re upped for a 2 year bridge deal would make me pretty happy.

If they can get the right guy for a top pair D I would go for it but it has to be the right player if the package includes BSchenn and a first.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Jun 5 @ 12:45 PM ET
Oh ok, I was like da fuq?!!
- MBFlyerfan

I see where you were coming from now.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 5 @ 12:47 PM ET
If you don't sign Streit you have a huge hole on D. HUGE! You needed to fill that and there really was no one better available.
- mayorofangrytown


I don't think you would have lost anything on the ice by taking a chance on Tom Gilbert last summer, as some of us were advocating. Streit wasn't the only option, he was just the most obvious one.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jun 5 @ 12:47 PM ET
I wouldn't have traded JVR for Schenn either. They sold too low. I'd have held on to him and traded him for a better prospect than Luke Schenn. I thought that was an awful trade at the time and still do.

If you don't sign Streit you have a huge hole on D. HUGE! You needed to fill that and there really was no one better available.

I didn't like the Lecavelier signing. It didn't make sense then or now. Hell, Mason Raymond was walking around hat in hand and he was a much better fit for this team in age and for the salary cap and yes, I wanted him then.

- mayorofangrytown


I understand the Streit signing. I don't dislike it as much now. I worry about it in the future though. He had a nice season, but we'll see how he ages.

I guess I would have looked for a more reasonably priced option on a shorter term.

The Flyers signed the top ranked Goalie, Defenseman and Forward in free agency last summer.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Jun 5 @ 12:47 PM ET
He's not a true #1 but someone is going to pay him to be that guy.

If they have to trade BSchenn to get a #1 D guy then do it.

Otherwise I hope they just make smaller moves to address some other needs, getting more speed and skill on the bottom six forwards, figuring out what they are going to do with VL, and getting BSchenn re upped for a 2 year bridge deal would make me pretty happy.

If they can get the right guy for a top pair D I would go for it but it has to be the right player if the package includes BSchenn and a first.

- Marc D

You aren't getting a #1 Dman for Brayden Schenn. You're getting a young NHL defenseman who may of may not progress from what he is right now at best. Especially with the current value on defensemen around the league.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Jun 5 @ 12:49 PM ET
I understand the Streit signing. I don't dislike it as much now. I worry about it in the future though. He had a nice season, but we'll see how he ages.

I guess I would have looked for a more reasonably priced option on a shorter term.

The Flyers signed the top ranked Goalie, Defenseman and Forward in free agency last summer.

- PhillySportsGuy

While Lecavelier didn't pan out, that's pretty much what I want them to do.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jun 5 @ 12:52 PM ET
While Lecavelier didn't pan out, that pretty much what I want them to do.
- mayorofangrytown


The Emery signing was fine. No problem with that at all.

When you sign the top ranked player at each position, you are going to overpay. The Flyers ALWAYS seemed to be pursuing the top free agents at every position every summer.

Why do we need Parise? He's a great player, but why would we be offering $100M for a winger when we have enough forwards!?
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jun 5 @ 12:54 PM ET
You aren't getting a #1 Dman for Brayden Schenn. You're getting a young NHL defenseman who may of may not progress from what he is right now at best. Especially with the current value on defensemen around the league.
- mayorofangrytown

What I meant was Brayden +
Like Schenn plus a first rounder for as an example ?Shattenkirk.
Even then it might not be enough, but that is more realistic.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 5 @ 12:54 PM ET
Why do we need Parise? He's a great player, but why would we be offering $100M for a winger when we have enough forwards!?
- PhillySportsGuy



I really wonder what would have happened if they managed to land him, but not Suter...
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jun 5 @ 12:55 PM ET
I really wonder what would have happened if they managed to land him, but not Suter...
- Tomahawk


And every team would know they need to shed salary and need defenseman.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Jun 5 @ 1:00 PM ET
What I meant was Brayden +
Like Schenn plus a first rounder for as an example ?Shattenkirk.
Even then it might not be enough, but that is more realistic.

- Marc D

If you can make that happen I'll buy you all the cannolis you can eat brother.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 5 @ 1:06 PM ET
If you can make that happen I'll buy you all the cannolis you can eat brother.
- mayorofangrytown


Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 5 @ 1:06 PM ET
And every team would know they need to shed salary and need defenseman.
- PhillySportsGuy



Definitely a bullet dodged, along with Dan Cleary and the Weber OS.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Jun 5 @ 1:26 PM ET

- jmatchett383

You know he's actually my brother right?





ok, he's not but I wish he was because he always brings dessert.
JonnyHammerstix
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.12.2013

Jun 5 @ 1:29 PM ET
Boy I hope and pray the Mcguire gets hired as GM of the Pens. Oh the comedy that would follow. Plus it gets his stupid mug off my TV screen. That said it probably wont happen.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jun 5 @ 1:31 PM ET
Boy I hope and pray the Mcguire gets hired as GM of the Pens. Oh the comedy that would follow. Plus it gets his stupid mug off my TV screen. That said it probably wont happen.
- JonnyHammerstix


It would be like the Lightning hiring Barry Melrose.
bird_dog_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 07.05.2011

Jun 5 @ 1:37 PM ET
Checking out some of the mock draft sites. Not do much for that's who the flyers might pick but to get some basic info on some potential picks.
I have seen a few people pick the flyers selecting Honka.
I don't know anything about him other than what central scoutings write up has. Thing is I just don't see the flyers selecting a smallish dman with the 17 th pick.
Unless he is so far more talented than whose on the board I am hoping Hexy passes.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Jun 5 @ 1:37 PM ET
Boy I hope and pray the Mcguire gets hired as GM of the Pens. Oh the comedy that would follow. Plus it gets his stupid mug off my TV screen. That said it probably wont happen.
- JonnyHammerstix



ust thnkof al the great sign you can me for tedraftif he is hired.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jun 5 @ 1:38 PM ET
Boy I hope and pray the Mcguire gets hired as GM of the Pens. Oh the comedy that would follow. Plus it gets his stupid mug off my TV screen. That said it probably wont happen.
- JonnyHammerstix

Him picking for the Pens in this draft in Philly..... I can only imagine what awkward poop comes out of his mouth at the podium.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 5 @ 1:38 PM ET
ust thnkof al the great sign you can me for tedraftif he is hired.
- J35Bacher


i thk youe missig sme letrs
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jun 5 @ 1:39 PM ET
It would be like the Lightning hiring Barry Melrose.
- PhillySportsGuy

Pierre would trade Malkin for whoever offers up the most Mattys, Johnnys, and Jimmys.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 5 @ 1:41 PM ET
Checking out some of the mock draft sites. Not do much for that's who the flyers might pick but to get some basic info on some potential picks.
I have seen a few people pick the flyers selecting Honka.
I don't know anything about him other than what central scoutings write up has. Thing is I just don't see the flyers selecting a smallish dman with the 17 th pick.
Unless he is so far more talented than whose on the board I am hoping Hexy passes.

- bird_dog_pa


Knowing absolutely nothing about him, 3 things I do like about him:

1) He's Finnish
2) In his first season in NA, he put up very hood numbers despite the different ice size and traveling to a new country
3) Plays in the WHL (personal preference)
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Jun 5 @ 1:41 PM ET
i thk youe missig sme letrs
- jmatchett383

He hit the rumble strip like three times.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 5 @ 1:42 PM ET
Pierre would trade Malkin for whoever offers up the most Mattys, Johnnys, and Jimmys.
- hereticpride


Need to get those hard-working North American boys.
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