It means.....

Frog went a-kkkkk-courtin', and he did ride, kkkkkk-crambone
Frog went a-kkkkk-courtin', and he did ride, kkkkkk-crambone
Frog went a-kkk-courtin', and he did ride.
With a sword and a pppf-ppf-pf-pp(pistol) revolver by his side. kkkkkk-crambone


- PLindbergh31

10/10 would reminisce again

Watching the press availability yesterday I was looking at him wondering how he gets to be the perfectly beautiful one. He has the oddest hairline I've ever seen. And when people talk about objective beauty they say it has to do with symmetry. The whole right side of his face is smaller than the left. I think it is the Scandanavian mystique. He does have pretty eyes. And I think he's "attractive" but then, I think a lot of hockey players are. But beautiful? Handsome? Dreamy? I do not see it.

And you have your own gold medal. So he can bite you!
- bodiva88

I love him. He's so pretty and nice and talented in so many ways. His flawless suits and style, what's not to love. He handles himself with class and grace and moves like a big cat both on the ice and in life.

I'd cuddle him.

Lol heres out of the box..

Trade a 1st and Hagg for Ehrhoff
Sign Niskanen for 6mil (maybe 6.5)
Resign Timonen for 3-4mil

Ehrhoff Niskanen
Streit Coburn
Timonen Schenn
Lauridsen

Trade off Grossmann and MacDonald and poof a respectable back end just like that!

I know it'll never happen, would be nice if things were as easy as they were to just type out.
- FlyersSteve118

I think the number for Niskanen is going to be 7M

I think the number for Niskanen is going to be 7M
- MJL

Yeah I agree. Might be able to step it down in the 6M range but you'd have to tack on a crazy term to reach that IMO.

Yeah I agree. Might be able to step it down in the 6M range but you'd have to tack on a crazy term to reach that IMO.
- Pixote Andolini

Term is limited by the CBA. The Pens can sign him for 8 years. All other teams are limited to 7 years.

Term is limited by the CBA. The Pens can sign him for 8 years. All other teams are limited to 7 years.
- MJL

And he is getting max term or its going to be no deal.

And he is getting max term or its going to be no deal.
- FlyersSteve118

No question about it.

No question about it.
- MJL

Yup, some GM will give him 7 years and 50 mil, count on it

Yup, some GM will give him 7 years and 50 mil, count on it
- BiggE

Yeah supply and demand.

Jake, Read, Mase and Streit didn't get clauses, so I'd say there isn't a prevailing fear against signing w/ the Flyers.
- Tomahawk

My only point is that if they trade Mac, it will be brought up with other free agents. An agent isn't doing his job if he doesn't, at least, mention these types of things to his clients.

I think the number for Niskanen is going to be 7M
- MJL

love him. but thats egregious

My only point is that if they trade Mac, it will be brought up with other free agents. An agent isn't doing his job if he doesn't, at least, mention these types of things to his clients.
- PhillySportsGuy

I'd be pretty shocked if they traded AMac now, much more likely to see Grossmann dealt if anyone

love him. but thats egregious
- stayinthefnnet

Agreed, but some desperate GM will do it. Heck Edmonton has a billionaire owner, cap room and badly needs D. They probably have the contract already written

My view on MacDonald is simple. I think he's a capable 4/5 defenseman, who took advantage of an eager GM to get a great deal for himself. I don't really dislike MacDonald, but I do dislike his contract.

If used right he can be a solid player and help the team. I'd rather trade Grossmann, because he's more limited than MacDonald and Schenn, he's older than both and he's been more prone to injury. That said, I don't see him as a core player.

Before that gets shredded and argued about for the next 6 hours, I define "core player" as a player who is not only among the best on the team, but also a cornerstone that I'd build on. On the Flyers, my core guys are Giroux, Couturier, Voracek, Simmonds, Coburn and Mason. Doesn't mean that they are untouchable, but those are the guys that right now, to me, are the core of the team.

My view on MacDonald is simple. I think he's a capable 4/5 defenseman, who took advantage of an eager GM to get a great deal for himself. I don't really dislike MacDonald, but I do dislike his contract.

If used right he can be a solid player and help the team. I'd rather trade Grossmann, because he's more limited than MacDonald and Schenn, he's older than both and he's been more prone to injury. That said, I don't see him as a core player.

Before that gets shredded and argued about for the next 6 hours, I define "core player" as a player who is not only among the best on the team, but also a cornerstone that I'd build on. On the Flyers, my core guys are Giroux, Couturier, Voracek, Simmonds, Coburn and Mason. Doesn't mean that they are untouchable, but those are the guys that right now, to me, are the core of the team.
- Jsaquella

- PhillySportsGuy

I don't want a repeat of the four pages determining what a splash is. I'm not here to argue semantics. I'm here to discuss hockey.

My view on MacDonald is simple. I think he's a capable 4/5 defenseman, who took advantage of an eager GM to get a great deal for himself. I don't really dislike MacDonald, but I do dislike his contract.

If used right he can be a solid player and help the team. I'd rather trade Grossmann, because he's more limited than MacDonald and Schenn, he's older than both and he's been more prone to injury. That said, I don't see him as a core player.

Before that gets shredded and argued about for the next 6 hours, I define "core player" as a player who is not only among the best on the team, but also a cornerstone that I'd build on. On the Flyers, my core guys are Giroux, Couturier, Voracek, Simmonds, Coburn and Mason. Doesn't mean that they are untouchable, but those are the guys that right now, to me, are the core of the team.
- Jsaquella

There's no way that MacDonald is a 3rd pair defenseman in this League. Which is what a #5 defenseman would be. He's a better player then that, much better. He's a solid top 4 NHL defenseman. That is a more accurate description of him as a player in my opinion.
MacDonald didn't take advantage of an eager GM. That description implies that the deal was a foolish one. It was not. It was a solid deal in which a capable GM addressed a need, and signed the player to a market value deal.
And a fan may have a definition of what a core player is. But a team doesn't trade for, and then sign a player to a 6 year deal, and not consider him a core player. They also wouldn't sign him to that deal if he was a 3rd pair defenseman.

My view on MacDonald is simple. I think he's a capable 4/5 defenseman, who took advantage of an eager GM to get a great deal for himself. I don't really dislike MacDonald, but I do dislike his contract.

If used right he can be a solid player and help the team. I'd rather trade Grossmann, because he's more limited than MacDonald and Schenn, he's older than both and he's been more prone to injury. That said, I don't see him as a core player.

Before that gets shredded and argued about for the next 6 hours, I define "core player" as a player who is not only among the best on the team, but also a cornerstone that I'd build on. On the Flyers, my core guys are Giroux, Couturier, Voracek, Simmonds, Coburn and Mason. Doesn't mean that they are untouchable, but those are the guys that right now, to me, are the core of the team.
- Jsaquella

I agree, AMac to me is a solid 2nd pair guy. While he is overpaid now though by year 3 or 4 of the deal it may be more in line with where he should be. I'd also move Grossmann if someone is getting traded, he has the most limited skill set of the 5 vets.

I love him. He's so pretty and nice and talented in so many ways. His flawless suits and style, what's not to love. He handles himself with class and grace and moves like a big cat both on the ice and in life.

I'd cuddle him.
- mayorofangrytown

I like him a lot. I just wouldn't call him handsome. He has a giant noggin! But he is a sharp dresser (a lot of those in the NHL. I think they like to compete with each other on who has the best tailor)

I'm certainly not saying I wouldn't go. nudge nudge wink wink

I agree, AMac to me is a solid 2nd pair guy. While he is overpaid now though by year 3 or 4 of the deal it may be more in line with where he should be. I'd also move Grossmann if someone is getting traded, he has the most limited skill set of the 5 vets.
- BiggE

I think he's a solid 2nd pair guy/good third pair guy.

My issue with the contract is simple. I feel thy can probably get a guy like Stralman or Nikitin in free agency for a bit less money and a bit shorter term. Say Stralman gets $4.2mm for 4 years...the "upgrade" in MacDonald isn't worth the 2 extra years and $800K in cap space.

I think he's a solid NHL defenseman, and if he makes some improvements in certain areas can be a good second pair guy.

I think he's a solid 2nd pair guy/good third pair guy.

My issue with the contract is simple. I feel thy can probably get a guy like Stralman or Nikitin in free agency for a bit less money and a bit shorter term. Say Stralman gets $4.2mm for 4 years...the "upgrade" in MacDonald isn't worth the 2 extra years and $800K in cap space.

I think he's a solid NHL defenseman, and if he makes some improvements in certain areas can be a good second pair guy.
- Jsaquella

+1

I remember right around this time he had like 3 straight games with a snipe. His shot was looking killer. Want to see this part of his game go to the next step. It's in there

I think he's a solid 2nd pair guy/good third pair guy.

My issue with the contract is simple. I feel thy can probably get a guy like Stralman or Nikitin in free agency for a bit less money and a bit shorter term. Say Stralman gets $4.2mm for 4 years...the "upgrade" in MacDonald isn't worth the 2 extra years and $800K in cap space.

I think he's a solid NHL defenseman, and if he makes some improvements in certain areas can be a good second pair guy.
- Jsaquella

You might have a point when we see what both of those guys get.
He's already a good 2nd pair defenseman. If he improves, he may become a very good 2nd pair defenseman, or possibly a #2 NHL defenseman.

I remember right around this time he had like 3 straight games with a snipe. His shot was looking killer. Want to see this part of his game go to the next step. It's in there
- eayost

Honestly, the offensive potential that Couturier has makes me open to trading Bryaden Schenn for defense help. I think if Couturier is given better linemates and more offensive roles, he can blossom into a very good two way center that gives 50-60 points and be a bastard to play against.