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Heard from my top source just now: the names Patrick Sharp, Nick Leddy and Johnny Oduya are in play, with the Hawks looking to add size at forward and help at center.


Sharp would look sharp in a Habs jersey
- WaterBoy

size at forward....

size at forward....
- drexel

and help at center....


Oh wait, the habs dress 20 smurfs.

size at forward....
- drexel

Eller.

He scores 40 goals with chicago

size at forward....
- drexel

Eller + McBust

6-3 Jays

BL homer

And just another quick comment or two.

Senators fans, you seriously need to STOP undervaluing Jason Spezza. He's gone, I think we've all accepted that this is a foregone conclusion, but someone will pay dearly for him. Bonino + 10th overall? That's bonkers! Vanek went from the Sabres to the Islanders for Moulsen, a 1st and a 2nd. He was a 30 year old rental and they paid that much for him! You don't think someone will pay at LEAST that amount for Spezza? Yes, yes, I know it was the Islanders, but all you need to drive trade returns in pro sports are at least 2 interested teams.

Murray wants a player, prospect, and a 1st for Spezza? He'll get it.

Secondly, stop overvaluing other teams players. You might think a guy like Shattenkirk is untouchable to the Blues, but if you're a St Louis fan, what would you rather have, a #3 defenseman, or a #1 centre??? Shattenkirk is worth more to Ottawa than Spezza is, and Spezza is worth more to St Louis than Shattenkirk is. Now I'm not saying they're definitely going to trade for Kevin Shattenkirk, but I'll bet you he's high on the list of guys the Senators want, and I think there's a trade to be made with St Louis for him involving Spezza, and I think the return coming back will be pleasantly surprising to most of you chicken little's.

Here's a dose of reality. The Ottawa Senators are a MUCH better team than last season showed. Their goaltending is much better than the season stats showed. They scored the 11th most goals in the league last year despite the fact that Bobby Ryan was hurt, despite the fact that Michalek was a no-show, despite the fact that most of their guys had a completely unexpected regression, but these are in no way indicative of what they are going forward. Ryan, healthy, on a line with Turris and MacArthur, will DOUBLE his totals from this season. Turris is on the upswing. MacArthur is exponentially better than he was ever given credit for being. If healthy, in an 82 game season, you've got a first line with a 40 goal guy and two 30 goal guys. You can certainly make the argument that there's a dropoff there, but that's almost every team. Stone and Zibanejad and potentially 3 or 4 other guys could come out of nowhere to get 20 this year. Scoring is NOT an issue.

Defense is, but there's also no indication that they will be so bad this year. Karlsson is outstanding, a full season of Wiercioch is more than acceptable. Methot is a reasonable #3-#4. Ceci-Phillips-Gryba, limited minutes against grinders so they can't get hurt often. It remains to be seen what Cowen is, but I do NOT think he is the player he was last year. I think he'll be a much more reliable player this year. So they need a defenseman, and a top pair one at that. Fine. So Ottawa goes out and gets one. Budget or no budget, they have a minimum they NEED to spend to. They need contracts, especially if Michalek and Spezza are coming off the books, and Hemsky isn't there to replace part of it.

So, the forwards are good. The defense falls back into line with what they ACTUALLY are. The goaltending returns to form. Without changes, I think they're a 5-8 seed already. Add a competent partner for Karlsson, and they improve on that. It's not like they're in an ultra-tough division after all. Buffalo and Florida and Toronto are jokes, Tampa and Detroit are probably due to regress a bit, so outside of Boston and Montreal, who else do they have to compete with??

I predict the Senators to finish with the 5 or 6 seed this year with the lineup they have NOW. They just need to play to the level they're capable of. They've proven before than they can.

Stop being so damn negative about your own team. Change is inevitable. Change does not equate to poor performance. You guys make it seem like these career hockey guys, from management to coaches to players, have no clue what they're doing. They're in the NHL, obviously they do. Sit back, watch what happens, and be critical if the time comes when the on-ice performance doesn't line up with your own REASONABLE expectations. Don't crucify them for what happened this past season. Stop living in the past. Next year looks pretty alright for the Senators in my opinion.

Eller.

He scores 40 goals with chicago
- Fredobbface

Eller is better than Sharp? So why trade him for Sharp

And just another quick comment or two.

Senators fans, you seriously need to STOP undervaluing Jason Spezza. He's gone, I think we've all accepted that this is a foregone conclusion, but someone will pay dearly for him. Bonino + 10th overall? That's bonkers! Vanek went from the Sabres to the Islanders for Moulsen, a 1st and a 2nd. He was a 30 year old rental and they paid that much for him! You don't think someone will pay at LEAST that amount for Spezza? Yes, yes, I know it was the Islanders, but all you need to drive trade returns in pro sports are at least 2 interested teams.

Murray wants a player, prospect, and a 1st for Spezza? He'll get it.

Secondly, stop overvaluing other teams players. You might think a guy like Shattenkirk is untouchable to the Blues, but if you're a St Louis fan, what would you rather have, a #3 defenseman, or a #1 centre??? Shattenkirk is worth more to Ottawa than Spezza is, and Spezza is worth more to St Louis than Shattenkirk is. Now I'm not saying they're definitely going to trade for Kevin Shattenkirk, but I'll bet you he's high on the list of guys the Senators want, and I think there's a trade to be made with St Louis for him involving Spezza, and I think the return coming back will be pleasantly surprising to most of you chicken little's.

Here's a dose of reality. The Ottawa Senators are a MUCH better team than last season showed. Their goaltending is much better than the season stats showed. They scored the 11th most goals in the league last year despite the fact that Bobby Ryan was hurt, despite the fact that Michalek was a no-show, despite the fact that most of their guys had a completely unexpected regression, but these are in no way indicative of what they are going forward. Ryan, healthy, on a line with Turris and MacArthur, will DOUBLE his totals from this season. Turris is on the upswing. MacArthur is exponentially better than he was ever given credit for being. If healthy, in an 82 game season, you've got a first line with a 40 goal guy and two 30 goal guys. You can certainly make the argument that there's a dropoff there, but that's almost every team. Stone and Zibanejad and potentially 3 or 4 other guys could come out of nowhere to get 20 this year. Scoring is NOT an issue.

Defense is, but there's also no indication that they will be so bad this year. Karlsson is outstanding, a full season of Wiercioch is more than acceptable. Methot is a reasonable #3-#4. Ceci-Phillips-Gryba, limited minutes against grinders so they can't get hurt often. It remains to be seen what Cowen is, but I do NOT think he is the player he was last year. I think he'll be a much more reliable player this year. So they need a defenseman, and a top pair one at that. Fine. So Ottawa goes out and gets one. Budget or no budget, they have a minimum they NEED to spend to. They need contracts, especially if Michalek and Spezza are coming off the books, and Hemsky isn't there to replace part of it.

So, the forwards are good. The defense falls back into line with what they ACTUALLY are. The goaltending returns to form. Without changes, I think they're a 5-8 seed already. Add a competent partner for Karlsson, and they improve on that. It's not like they're in an ultra-tough division after all. Buffalo and Florida and Toronto are jokes, Tampa and Detroit are probably due to regress a bit, so outside of Boston and Montreal, who else do they have to compete with??

I predict the Senators to finish with the 5 or 6 seed this year with the lineup they have NOW. They just need to play to the level they're capable of. They've proven before than they can.

Stop being so damn negative about your own team. Change is inevitable. Change does not equate to poor performance. You guys make it seem like these career hockey guys, from management to coaches to players, have no clue what they're doing. They're in the NHL, obviously they do. Sit back, watch what happens, and be critical if the time comes when the on-ice performance doesn't line up with your own REASONABLE expectations. Don't crucify them for what happened this past season. Stop living in the past. Next year looks pretty alright for the Senators in my opinion.
- DrRecchi

Eller is better than Sharp? So why trade him for Sharp
- drexel

Because he's Danish.

Eller is better than Sharp? So why trade him for Sharp
- drexel

Trades are exciting

- stinger67

QP during the national anthem

waterburn.



lol.

And just another quick comment or two.

Senators fans, you seriously need to STOP undervaluing Jason Spezza. He's gone, I think we've all accepted that this is a foregone conclusion, but someone will pay dearly for him. Bonino + 10th overall? That's bonkers! Vanek went from the Sabres to the Islanders for Moulsen, a 1st and a 2nd. He was a 30 year old rental and they paid that much for him! You don't think someone will pay at LEAST that amount for Spezza? Yes, yes, I know it was the Islanders, but all you need to drive trade returns in pro sports are at least 2 interested teams.

Murray wants a player, prospect, and a 1st for Spezza? He'll get it.

Secondly, stop overvaluing other teams players. You might think a guy like Shattenkirk is untouchable to the Blues, but if you're a St Louis fan, what would you rather have, a #3 defenseman, or a #1 centre??? Shattenkirk is worth more to Ottawa than Spezza is, and Spezza is worth more to St Louis than Shattenkirk is. Now I'm not saying they're definitely going to trade for Kevin Shattenkirk, but I'll bet you he's high on the list of guys the Senators want, and I think there's a trade to be made with St Louis for him involving Spezza, and I think the return coming back will be pleasantly surprising to most of you chicken little's.

Here's a dose of reality. The Ottawa Senators are a MUCH better team than last season showed. Their goaltending is much better than the season stats showed. They scored the 11th most goals in the league last year despite the fact that Bobby Ryan was hurt, despite the fact that Michalek was a no-show, despite the fact that most of their guys had a completely unexpected regression, but these are in no way indicative of what they are going forward. Ryan, healthy, on a line with Turris and MacArthur, will DOUBLE his totals from this season. Turris is on the upswing. MacArthur is exponentially better than he was ever given credit for being. If healthy, in an 82 game season, you've got a first line with a 40 goal guy and two 30 goal guys. You can certainly make the argument that there's a dropoff there, but that's almost every team. Stone and Zibanejad and potentially 3 or 4 other guys could come out of nowhere to get 20 this year. Scoring is NOT an issue.

Defense is, but there's also no indication that they will be so bad this year. Karlsson is outstanding, a full season of Wiercioch is more than acceptable. Methot is a reasonable #3-#4. Ceci-Phillips-Gryba, limited minutes against grinders so they can't get hurt often. It remains to be seen what Cowen is, but I do NOT think he is the player he was last year. I think he'll be a much more reliable player this year. So they need a defenseman, and a top pair one at that. Fine. So Ottawa goes out and gets one. Budget or no budget, they have a minimum they NEED to spend to. They need contracts, especially if Michalek and Spezza are coming off the books, and Hemsky isn't there to replace part of it.

So, the forwards are good. The defense falls back into line with what they ACTUALLY are. The goaltending returns to form. Without changes, I think they're a 5-8 seed already. Add a competent partner for Karlsson, and they improve on that. It's not like they're in an ultra-tough division after all. Buffalo and Florida and Toronto are jokes, Tampa and Detroit are probably due to regress a bit, so outside of Boston and Montreal, who else do they have to compete with??

I predict the Senators to finish with the 5 or 6 seed this year with the lineup they have NOW. They just need to play to the level they're capable of. They've proven before than they can.

Stop being so damn negative about your own team. Change is inevitable. Change does not equate to poor performance. You guys make it seem like these career hockey guys, from management to coaches to players, have no clue what they're doing. They're in the NHL, obviously they do. Sit back, watch what happens, and be critical if the time comes when the on-ice performance doesn't line up with your own REASONABLE expectations. Don't crucify them for what happened this past season. Stop living in the past. Next year looks pretty alright for the Senators in my opinion.
- DrRecchi

What the (frank)ing (frank)...

What the (frank)ing (frank)...
- Pecafan Fan

What the (frank)ing (frank)...
- Pecafan Fan

A post from some Sens fan, dt99999 or something...

What the (frank)ing (frank)...
- Pecafan Fan

Well, they're all a bunch of public servants. They have all the time in the world

A post from some Sens fan, dt99999 or something...
- DrRecchi

Is the Epic post thread still active?

Because that's pretty epic in my book.

What the (frank)ing (frank)...
- Pecafan Fan

Spezza for Gorges

Is the Epic post thread still active?

Because that's pretty epic in my book.
- Pecafan Fan

I'll let one of the freak thread regulars take care of it.

And just another quick comment or two.

Senators fans, you seriously need to STOP undervaluing Jason Spezza. He's gone, I think we've all accepted that this is a foregone conclusion, but someone will pay dearly for him. Bonino + 10th overall? That's bonkers! Vanek went from the Sabres to the Islanders for Moulsen, a 1st and a 2nd. He was a 30 year old rental and they paid that much for him! You don't think someone will pay at LEAST that amount for Spezza? Yes, yes, I know it was the Islanders, but all you need to drive trade returns in pro sports are at least 2 interested teams.

Murray wants a player, prospect, and a 1st for Spezza? He'll get it.

Secondly, stop overvaluing other teams players. You might think a guy like Shattenkirk is untouchable to the Blues, but if you're a St Louis fan, what would you rather have, a #3 defenseman, or a #1 centre??? Shattenkirk is worth more to Ottawa than Spezza is, and Spezza is worth more to St Louis than Shattenkirk is. Now I'm not saying they're definitely going to trade for Kevin Shattenkirk, but I'll bet you he's high on the list of guys the Senators want, and I think there's a trade to be made with St Louis for him involving Spezza, and I think the return coming back will be pleasantly surprising to most of you chicken little's.

Here's a dose of reality. The Ottawa Senators are a MUCH better team than last season showed. Their goaltending is much better than the season stats showed. They scored the 11th most goals in the league last year despite the fact that Bobby Ryan was hurt, despite the fact that Michalek was a no-show, despite the fact that most of their guys had a completely unexpected regression, but these are in no way indicative of what they are going forward. Ryan, healthy, on a line with Turris and MacArthur, will DOUBLE his totals from this season. Turris is on the upswing. MacArthur is exponentially better than he was ever given credit for being. If healthy, in an 82 game season, you've got a first line with a 40 goal guy and two 30 goal guys. You can certainly make the argument that there's a dropoff there, but that's almost every team. Stone and Zibanejad and potentially 3 or 4 other guys could come out of nowhere to get 20 this year. Scoring is NOT an issue.

Defense is, but there's also no indication that they will be so bad this year. Karlsson is outstanding, a full season of Wiercioch is more than acceptable. Methot is a reasonable #3-#4. Ceci-Phillips-Gryba, limited minutes against grinders so they can't get hurt often. It remains to be seen what Cowen is, but I do NOT think he is the player he was last year. I think he'll be a much more reliable player this year. So they need a defenseman, and a top pair one at that. Fine. So Ottawa goes out and gets one. Budget or no budget, they have a minimum they NEED to spend to. They need contracts, especially if Michalek and Spezza are coming off the books, and Hemsky isn't there to replace part of it.

So, the forwards are good. The defense falls back into line with what they ACTUALLY are. The goaltending returns to form. Without changes, I think they're a 5-8 seed already. Add a competent partner for Karlsson, and they improve on that. It's not like they're in an ultra-tough division after all. Buffalo and Florida and Toronto are jokes, Tampa and Detroit are probably due to regress a bit, so outside of Boston and Montreal, who else do they have to compete with??

I predict the Senators to finish with the 5 or 6 seed this year with the lineup they have NOW. They just need to play to the level they're capable of. They've proven before than they can.

Stop being so damn negative about your own team. Change is inevitable. Change does not equate to poor performance. You guys make it seem like these career hockey guys, from management to coaches to players, have no clue what they're doing. They're in the NHL, obviously they do. Sit back, watch what happens, and be critical if the time comes when the on-ice performance doesn't line up with your own REASONABLE expectations. Don't crucify them for what happened this past season. Stop living in the past. Next year looks pretty alright for the Senators in my opinion.
- dt99999

bump

Well, they're all a bunch of public servants. They have all the time in the world
- EssuieToutJeune

Dan is a public servant?

Well, they're all a bunch of public servants. They have all the time in the world
- EssuieToutJeune

Dan is a public serpent?
- Pea-Brain

fixed...and yes.

fixed...and yes.
- TouenneTiiTree

and yes...I know this makes no sense.

And just another quick comment or two.

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- DrRecchi