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Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Jun 3 @ 1:19 PM ET
Ok , I stand corrected , what did Bozak get last year ok the PK mr human stat machine ?
- Adam_The_Golf

I don't know what "get last year ok the PK" means.

1 SHG would be the answer if I get your meaning.

Bumtittycaacaa would be the answer if I don't.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Jun 3 @ 1:20 PM ET
Staal doesn't play on the PK eh...that is pretty weird considering he scored two shorthanded goals and had 4 shorthanded points...
- AdamFrench

listen, Staal's 52 seconds/game of PK time isn't even close to Bozak's epic 1:11/game of PK time.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jun 3 @ 1:20 PM ET
Bozak had a better or equal year last year. Its pretty clear.

No ones arguing who has had a better career or who has been a more dominant player.

- Bigzby



Dude. He score 5 more pts (pro rated to Staal's 79games this year) playing with Kessel. I do not think Staal had any better year than Bozak did. Their PPG over 82 games comes out to a 6 pts advantage to Bozak. Is that really impressive?? Staal was playing with (frank)ing Tlusty for (frank) sakes.

Staal made Tlusty a 23 goal scored (in 48 games). Bozak lives off Kessel and JVR. He's not making them better. He's just ridin coattails.
CaptCrankypants
New Jersey Devils
Location: None of your business
Joined: 04.27.2014

Jun 3 @ 1:20 PM ET
YES SIR!

what you were hoping for another " what is Lou gonna do this summer " blogs?

- Adam_The_Golf

Well Todd is a Devils blogger, so yea, I'd rather see a blog talking about the Devils.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jun 3 @ 1:20 PM ET
who is HH?
- TheMadNavigator



Honest Hockey. Bozak#1 fan.
Leaffan8113
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Quit listening to Dreger. He', ON
Joined: 01.10.2012

Jun 3 @ 1:23 PM ET
kessel is one of the best offensive players in the league but also the biggest wussy in the league which makes me hate him...
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jun 3 @ 1:23 PM ET
Staal doesn't play on the PK eh...that is pretty weird considering he scored two shorthanded goals and had 4 shorthanded points...
- AdamFrench



Do not correct him!! You're ruining his argument.

BTW. Staal avg 0:19 less on the PK/ game than Bozie
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 3 @ 1:23 PM ET
I don't know what "get last year ok the PK" means.

1 SHG would be the answer if I get your meaning.

Bumtittycaacaa would be the answer if I don't.

- AdamFrench


Thanks human stat machine.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jun 3 @ 1:23 PM ET
my dog is smarter than that human.
- big_dion



burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jun 3 @ 1:25 PM ET
Dude are you drunk ? serious , was your goal to confuse the (frank) out of me and everyone on hockeybuzz ? mission accomplished

was your goal to list as many centres as you can in the NHL ?

also Staal played 79 games and Bozak played in 58

not even sure how you do the math that Staal played in 2 more games

- Adam_The_Golf



LAST YEAR. It's not my fault you're confused. Should I type slower?? Bigger font??
Rang
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 08.21.2006

Jun 3 @ 1:25 PM ET
The top 15 in even strength points are ranked
- Todd.Cordell


Good comeback, the other guy's comment was off base
As_I_See_It
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 02.28.2011

Jun 3 @ 1:25 PM ET
Anyone ever see someone get their vagina in a knot?

No? You will today if you head over to the Flames' thread.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jun 3 @ 1:26 PM ET
Dude are you drunk ? serious , was your goal to confuse the (frank) out of me and everyone on hockeybuzz ? mission accomplished

was your goal to list as many centres as you can in the NHL ?

also Staal played 79 games and Bozak played in 58

not even sure how you do the math that Staal played in 2 more games

- Adam_The_Golf



Just the ones statistically better than Bozak. And a few others that are comparable.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Jun 3 @ 1:26 PM ET
Anyone ever see someone get their vagina in a knot?

No? You will today if you head over to the Flames' thread.

- As_I_See_It

Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Jun 3 @ 1:26 PM ET
Just the ones statistically better than Bozak. And a few others that are comparable.
- burn


he wont be responding.
Rang
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 08.21.2006

Jun 3 @ 1:26 PM ET
Dude. He score 5 more pts (pro rated to Staal's 79games this year) playing with Kessel. I do not think Staal had any better year than Bozak did. Their PPG over 82 games comes out to a 6 pts advantage to Bozak. Is that really impressive?? Staal was playing with (frank)ing Tlusty for (frank) sakes.

Staal made Tlusty a 23 goal scored (in 48 games). Bozak lives off Kessel and JVR. He's not making them better. He's just ridin coattails.

- burn


Maybe but Kadri hasn't been able to ride those tails given two opportunities.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jun 3 @ 1:26 PM ET
Ok , I stand corrected , what did Bozak get last year ok the PK mr human stat machine ?
- Adam_The_Golf



a single pts?
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Jun 3 @ 1:26 PM ET
Thanks human stat machine.
- Nucker101

I wish. I suck at math, that's why I majored in History and Law.
sparky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Canada
Joined: 07.15.2006

Jun 3 @ 1:27 PM ET
That's assuming you would have drafted Hamilton, know one knows for sure what draft position that pick would be or who would have been selected. But the guys who all went ahead of Hamilton are all very promising young players as well so I'd probably prefer Seguin and one of them myself. Hard to say the Leafs really got owned in that trade though since they got one of the better offensive players in the league back in that deal who's still only 26 now.
- Nucker101


Drafting Sequin there would have been a no brainer. Your right we don't know for sure if the scouts would have suggested Hamilton or not, however it would have been a quality draft choice whoever it was.

I think the Leafs did get "owned" in that trade. Yes we got a good offensive player but Sequin himself will probably put up as many points as Kessel alone and then you add the other two pieces with him (Hamilton and Jarett) Doesn't help that Sequin is also a centre. Do you think they would trade Sequin plus a first and second round choice to us for Kessel ?
Deeps27
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Canada, ON
Joined: 07.08.2007

Jun 3 @ 1:28 PM ET
Hi HH.


Did Bozak ever more than 20 goals?? 100pts?? You realize that Staal scored 25more pts last year than Bozak in 2 more games??

Do you even have a clue at all??

- burn

I don't get it - is this an argument against Bozak or for him? Considering one guy is paid over $8M and the other just over $4M I'm not sure where you're going with this...that 25 points = $4M?
Bigzby
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Inside Candymouth, NV
Joined: 07.06.2011

Jun 3 @ 1:28 PM ET
Dude. He score 5 more pts (pro rated to Staal's 79games this year) playing with Kessel. I do not think Staal had any better year than Bozak did. Their PPG over 82 games comes out to a 6 pts advantage to Bozak. Is that really impressive?? Staal was playing with (frank)ing Tlusty for (frank) sakes.

Staal made Tlusty a 23 goal scored (in 48 games). Bozak lives off Kessel and JVR. He's not making them better. He's just ridin coattails.

- burn



At this point in their careers Id say they are pretty close.

I believe Stall to be far more dynamic and has a far better chance at returning to superstar form, which bozak never has or will.

burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jun 3 @ 1:29 PM ET
Anyone ever see someone get their vagina in a knot?

No? You will today if you head over to the Flames' thread.

- As_I_See_It



Gio= 1st overall!!!

TOP3 DMAN IN THE LEAGUE.... Yeah if Peitro, Doughty, PK, Weber, Keith, ect all drop dead tomorrow.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jun 3 @ 1:30 PM ET
I don't get it - is this an argument against Bozak or for him? Considering one guy is paid over $8M and the other just over $4M I'm not sure where you're going with this...that 25 points = $4M?
- Deeps27



Wasn't a comparision of value(comparing money). Just straight who has played better. Comparing age+cap hit ect changes things a bit.
twiztedmike
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.06.2007

Jun 3 @ 1:31 PM ET
I DONT SEE THE GRAPH!!!!!!!!
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jun 3 @ 1:32 PM ET
At this point in their careers Id say they are pretty close.

I believe Stall to be far more dynamic and has a far better chance at returning to superstar form, which bozak never has or will.

- Bigzby



Agreed. I'd say that if Staal had better linemates (read, Kessel and JVR and Not Tlust and Semin) He would have had more than 61pts in 79 games.
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