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burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jun 3 @ 12:35 PM ET
I wonder if his stats today would still prove that he still is the league's worst 1st line centre. Curious.
- TheMadNavigator



they do. and i'm not basing off "stats"
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jun 3 @ 12:36 PM ET
if Bozie is the worst , then what does that make Kadri ?
he couldn't even come close to doing the job Bozie did when given the chance this year. Kessel and JVR both suffered without Bozie , he may not be the best in the league , but he is far from the worst and the best the leafs have , so get your head outta your ass

- Adam_The_Golf




bozak isnt a 1st liner c. hes just not good enough.
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jun 3 @ 12:39 PM ET
Don't know why Bozak is disliked so much. He does an amazing job and brings out the best in Kessel.
- sparky



if by best you mean not the best.. I agree
leafer89
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 3 @ 12:40 PM ET
Don't know why Bozak is disliked so much. He does an amazing job and brings out the best in Kessel.
- sparky



I never said I dislike him, I've always been a fan of his work, but that doesn't counter the fact that many of the other wingers on that list have centers beside them that are much higher point producers.
abolton
Boston Bruins
Location: NH
Joined: 07.14.2006

Jun 3 @ 12:40 PM ET
Todd Cordell: Phil Kessel Ahead of NHL's Elite in 5 vs 5 Production
- Todd.Cordell



Yes Phil has done pretty well for "himself"

His team not so much

Leafs will get nowhere with him as their cornerstone
Adam_The_Golf
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Oshawa , ON
Joined: 01.24.2014

Jun 3 @ 12:43 PM ET
they do. and i'm not basing off "stats"
- burn


worst you say?

Bozak last year 58 19 30 49 14 3 PPG 0.84
E Staal last year 79 21 40 61 74 -13 PPG 0.77

Bozak also plays the PK , Staal doesn't

again stop talking out of your ass
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Jun 3 @ 12:43 PM ET
If you are comparing to elite players in the league..show all elite players.

Where is Giroux? Ovechkin?

There are so many top names out there missing from you chart it is not funny.

Typical leaf fan bloating the numbers to make the Leaf player look the best...lol

Flame on.

- meduser

TOOL ALERT!!!!
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Jun 3 @ 12:48 PM ET
TOOL ALERT!!!!
- Fakepartofme


What did I do this time?
Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Retired, ON
Joined: 07.24.2011

Jun 3 @ 12:50 PM ET
TOOL ALERT!!!!
- Fakepartofme

Damn tools... The topic is a call to all trolls.. Thanks Cordell or whatever you say your name is.
Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Retired, ON
Joined: 07.24.2011

Jun 3 @ 12:53 PM ET
worst you say?

Bozak last year 58 19 30 49 14 3 PPG 0.84
E Staal last year 79 21 40 61 74 -13 PPG 0.77

Bozak also plays the PK , Staal doesn't

again stop talking out of your ass

- Adam_The_Golf

Hey!! Don't go throwing facts around like they mean something here! Kessel sucks because Non-Leafs fans say so. What's so hard to understand about that?
big_dion
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I've been successful in business for years which is why I can be on hockeybuzz. - HH
Joined: 08.23.2010

Jun 3 @ 12:59 PM ET
Yes Phil has done pretty well for "himself"

His team not so much

Leafs will get nowhere with him as their cornerstone

- abolton


cornerstone?

just like boston will go nowhere with seguin as their core? oh wait, you traded him for a mush head, great move for the franchise.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jun 3 @ 1:02 PM ET
if by best you mean not the best.. I agree
- senstroll



Getlaz better. Bonino, Cogleano on par
Kreijci and Bergeron better
Hodgson on par (but still younger)
Hudler on par. Monahan will be way better, maybe as early as next year
E. Staal and J.Staal better.
Toews
Duchene, O'Reilly, Mackinnon, Stastny
Johansen, Dubinsky
Seguin
Datsuyk
RNH. Gagner probably about even
Bjukstead and Barkov will better soon
Kopitar, Carter, Richards... hell Tofoli will be better soon
Kouivu and Granlund, coyle may be better soon
Deharnais and Pleckanek about equal. Galy soon to blow by
Smith and Fisher about even
Zajac and Henrique at least even
Tavares and Neilsen.
Stepan and richards. Brassard even
Spezza. Turris even
Giroux. Schenn and Coutoure are young and soon to pass
Riberio, Vermmette and Hanzel about even
Crosby Malkin
Pavelski, Thornton, Couture
BAckes
Stamkos and Johnson. Vilpula about even
Sedin Kesler
Backstom. Johansson and Grabo about even
Little. Schiefle about to blow by.


burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jun 3 @ 1:05 PM ET
worst you say?

Bozak last year 58 19 30 49 14 3 PPG 0.84
E Staal last year 79 21 40 61 74 -13 PPG 0.77

Bozak also plays the PK , Staal doesn't

again stop talking out of your ass

- Adam_The_Golf



Hi HH.


Did Bozak ever more than 20 goals?? 100pts?? You realize that Staal scored 25more pts last year than Bozak in 2 more games??

Do you even have a clue at all??
TheMadNavigator
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Malfunction Junction, ON
Joined: 08.18.2010

Jun 3 @ 1:08 PM ET
who is HH?
Bigzby
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Inside Candymouth, NV
Joined: 07.06.2011

Jun 3 @ 1:08 PM ET
Hi HH.


Did Bozak ever more than 20 goals?? 100pts?? You realize that Staal scored 25more pts last year than Bozak in 2 more games??

Do you even have a clue at all??

- burn


Bozak had a better or equal year last year. Its pretty clear.

No ones arguing who has had a better career or who has been a more dominant player.
TheMadNavigator
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Malfunction Junction, ON
Joined: 08.18.2010

Jun 3 @ 1:08 PM ET
they do. and i'm not basing off "stats"
- burn


clearly, there's no point.
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Jun 3 @ 1:10 PM ET
worst you say?

Bozak last year 58 19 30 49 14 3 PPG 0.84
E Staal last year 79 21 40 61 74 -13 PPG 0.77

Bozak also plays the PK , Staal doesn't

again stop talking out of your ass

- Adam_The_Golf

Staal doesn't play on the PK eh...that is pretty weird considering he scored two shorthanded goals and had 4 shorthanded points...
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 3 @ 1:11 PM ET
Staal doesn't play on the PK eh...that is pretty weird considering he scored two shorthanded goals and had 4 shorthanded points...
- AdamFrench

big_dion
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I've been successful in business for years which is why I can be on hockeybuzz. - HH
Joined: 08.23.2010

Jun 3 @ 1:14 PM ET
Staal doesn't play on the PK eh...that is pretty weird considering he scored two shorthanded goals and had 4 shorthanded points...
- AdamFrench


my dog is smarter than that human.
Bigzby
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Inside Candymouth, NV
Joined: 07.06.2011

Jun 3 @ 1:15 PM ET
my dog is smarter than that human.
- big_dion


Australian Sheppard? If so that's not fair, they're smarter than most of us.
Adam_The_Golf
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Oshawa , ON
Joined: 01.24.2014

Jun 3 @ 1:16 PM ET
Hi HH.


Did Bozak ever more than 20 goals?? 100pts?? You realize that Staal scored 25more pts last year than Bozak in 2 more games??

Do you even have a clue at all??

- burn


Dude are you drunk ? serious , was your goal to confuse the (frank) out of me and everyone on hockeybuzz ? mission accomplished

was your goal to list as many centres as you can in the NHL ?

also Staal played 79 games and Bozak played in 58

not even sure how you do the math that Staal played in 2 more games
Adam_The_Golf
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Oshawa , ON
Joined: 01.24.2014

Jun 3 @ 1:17 PM ET
Staal doesn't play on the PK eh...that is pretty weird considering he scored two shorthanded goals and had 4 shorthanded points...
- AdamFrench


Ok , I stand corrected , what did Bozak get last year ok the PK mr human stat machine ?
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Jun 3 @ 1:17 PM ET
Hey!! Don't go throwing facts around like they mean something here! Kessel sucks because Non-Leafs fans say so. What's so hard to understand about that?
- Arctic_AARDVARK

What does your comment have to do with his comment?
Popcorn Kid
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 02.21.2008

Jun 3 @ 1:17 PM ET
Leafs fans know how go he has been, especially these last 3 years. People who talk crap about him really don't have a clue... it's just Leaf bashing at it's stupidest.
- burn


This is so true
Bigzby
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Inside Candymouth, NV
Joined: 07.06.2011

Jun 3 @ 1:18 PM ET
Dude are you drunk ? serious , was your goal to confuse the (frank) out of me and everyone one hockeybuzz ? mission accomplished

was your goal to list as many centres as you can in the NHL ?

also Staal played 79 games and Bozak played in 58

not even sure how you do the math that Staal played in 2 more games

- Adam_The_Golf


Don't worry Hudak is going to cut all the dead weight in our education system and fix this all up.
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