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Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Jun 3 @ 12:09 PM ET
It's time for people to get off Kessel's back and treat him as one of the league's truly elite players, because he is one.


He may be one of the league's elite players but the price we paid to acquire him is what give's many fans to not appreciate him fully.

It's not Kessel's fault as he didn't make the deal. We were a bad team before he arrived and we still are a bad team. We would be far better off (IMO) with Seguin, Hamilton and the high second rounder we also gave Boston.

- sparky

Jared Knight, man, he's killing it!
shvingter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: Puljujarvi makes draisitil and mcdavid better, CT
Joined: 10.12.2009

Jun 3 @ 12:11 PM ET
Todd Cordell: Phil Kessel Ahead of NHL's Elite in 5 vs 5 Production
- Todd.Cordell

Great a leafs blog
icedog97
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 10.20.2005

Jun 3 @ 12:12 PM ET
Interesting but all things being equal...I think their per game numbers would be more telling.
Adam_The_Golf
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Oshawa , ON
Joined: 01.24.2014

Jun 3 @ 12:16 PM ET
Interesting but all things being equal...I think their per game numbers would be more telling.
- icedog97



are you saying that because Sidney is at the bottom ?

rightfully so though he missed a lot of time with injuries
Adam_The_Golf
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Oshawa , ON
Joined: 01.24.2014

Jun 3 @ 12:18 PM ET
Great a leafs blog
- shvingter88



YES SIR!

what you were hoping for another " what is Lou gonna do this summer " blogs?
leafer89
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 3 @ 12:18 PM ET
What's really impressing with these stats is that Kessel does this with Bozak..
SolidGoldBricks
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Robidas Island, MI
Joined: 10.30.2013

Jun 3 @ 12:19 PM ET
Kessel is an elite point producer. So is Ovechkin. I wouldn't want either on my team.
- paulr


Kane would love him on your team. So would Sharp. Hawks LOVE The Thrill.

He is also the favorite of exercise bikes.
icedog97
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 10.20.2005

Jun 3 @ 12:20 PM ET
are you saying that because Sidney is at the bottom ?

rightfully so though he missed a lot of time with injuries

- Adam_The_Golf


Ha...no...could care less about Sid.

Curious how the rest of the group changes.

Actually says a lot about Phil's durability because I am pretty sure in that span he hasn't missed any games (?).
Deeps27
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Canada, ON
Joined: 07.08.2007

Jun 3 @ 12:23 PM ET
If you are comparing to elite players in the league..show all elite players.

Where is Giroux? Ovechkin?

There are so many top names out there missing from you chart it is not funny.

Typical leaf fan bloating the numbers to make the Leaf player look the best...lol

Flame on.

- meduser

Yeah - everyone knows that quantitative statistical analysis is the voodoo of fan boys looking to pump up a player. Facts shmacts, draft shmaft, fancy stats nancy stats. Who is that Crosby guy anyway? He's no Giroux or Ovechkin that's for sure.
Adam_The_Golf
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Oshawa , ON
Joined: 01.24.2014

Jun 3 @ 12:23 PM ET
Ha...no...could care less about Sid.

Curious how the rest of the group changes.

Actually says a lot about Phil's durability because I am pretty sure in that span he hasn't missed any games (?).

- icedog97


not sure , only time I think he missed was when he first came to the leafs
missed the start of the year with shoulder surgery , tough to get hurt when you don't go into the corners
lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jun 3 @ 12:24 PM ET
Ha...no...could care less about Sid.

Curious how the rest of the group changes.

Actually says a lot about Phil's durability because I am pretty sure in that span he hasn't missed any games (?).

- icedog97

Correct.he had shoulder surgery wh3n he arrived by has now gone through a few seasons without missing any games
sparky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Canada
Joined: 07.15.2006

Jun 3 @ 12:24 PM ET
What's really impressing with these stats is that Kessel does this with Bozak..
- leafer89


Don't know why Bozak is disliked so much. He does an amazing job and brings out the best in Kessel.
lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jun 3 @ 12:25 PM ET
not sure , only time I think he missed was when he first came to the leafs
missed the start of the year with shoulder surgery , tough to get hurt when you don't go into the corners

- Adam_The_Golf

Lupul gets hurt just looking at the corners...
Deeps27
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Canada, ON
Joined: 07.08.2007

Jun 3 @ 12:25 PM ET
He's not a Leaf fan, genious.
- TheMadNavigator

This comment had so much promise...
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 3 @ 12:25 PM ET
Interesting but all things being equal...I think their per game numbers would be more telling.
- icedog97



Yes they would. Kessel is definitely a damn good player though.
shvingter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: Puljujarvi makes draisitil and mcdavid better, CT
Joined: 10.12.2009

Jun 3 @ 12:26 PM ET
YES SIR!

what you were hoping for another " what is Lou gonna do this summer " blogs?

- Adam_The_Golf

Yes
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jun 3 @ 12:26 PM ET
Ha...no...could care less about Sid.

Curious how the rest of the group changes.

Actually says a lot about Phil's durability because I am pretty sure in that span he hasn't missed any games (?).

- icedog97



Correct. No games missed last 4 years. Since he came to the Leafs he's missed only first 12 games of first season (shoulder surgery). But hasn't missed since.

And he's doing it with the worst 1st line center in the league.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 3 @ 12:27 PM ET
Lupul gets hurt just looking at the corners...
- lumlums


It's a shame since his per 82 game numbers since joining the Leafs are pretty impressive.
TheMadNavigator
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Malfunction Junction, ON
Joined: 08.18.2010

Jun 3 @ 12:27 PM ET
This comment had so much promise...
- Deeps27


I never said I was a genius..... at spelling.
sparky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Canada
Joined: 07.15.2006

Jun 3 @ 12:28 PM ET
Jared Knight, man, he's killing it!
- Feeling Glucky?


Thankyou, I forgot his name. We wouldn't have need to make the Bolland trade with Sequin, Kadri, Bozak and Knight as our centers. Hamilton added to our top 4 defenseman would make us a very good young team. Probably would have made the playoffs last year.
TheMadNavigator
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Malfunction Junction, ON
Joined: 08.18.2010

Jun 3 @ 12:29 PM ET
Correct. No games missed last 4 years. Since he came to the Leafs he's missed only first 12 games of first season (shoulder surgery). But hasn't missed since.

And he's doing it with the worst 1st line center in the league.

- burn


I wonder if his stats today would still prove that he still is the league's worst 1st line centre. Curious.
rmdevil313
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Your a (frank)ing fag and I hope you get crippled- Cranny, MN
Joined: 01.05.2009

Jun 3 @ 12:29 PM ET
If you are comparing to elite players in the league..show all elite players.

Where is Giroux? Ovechkin?

There are so many top names out there missing from you chart it is not funny.

Typical leaf fan bloating the numbers to make the Leaf player look the best...lol

Flame on.

- meduser


Ovechkin is a terrible 5 v 5 player. And maybe Giroux wasn't good enough 5 v 5 either. Considering he was 4th in PPP this season, seems realistic.
Adam_The_Golf
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Oshawa , ON
Joined: 01.24.2014

Jun 3 @ 12:31 PM ET
It's a shame since his per 82 game numbers since joining the Leafs are pretty impressive.
- Nucker101


Doesn't help the fact that Captain Pylon broke his arm one year with a way off target slap shot
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 3 @ 12:31 PM ET
Thankyou, I forgot his name. We wouldn't have need to make the Bolland trade with Sequin, Kadri, Bozak and Knight as our centers. Hamilton added to our top 4 defenseman would make us a very good young team. Probably would have made the playoffs last year.
- sparky


That's assuming you would have drafted Hamilton, know one knows for sure what draft position that pick would be or who would have been selected. But the guys who all went ahead of Hamilton are all very promising young players as well so I'd probably prefer Seguin and one of them myself. Hard to say the Leafs really got owned in that trade though since they got one of the better offensive players in the league back in that deal who's still only 26 now.
Adam_The_Golf
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Oshawa , ON
Joined: 01.24.2014

Jun 3 @ 12:33 PM ET
Correct. No games missed last 4 years. Since he came to the Leafs he's missed only first 12 games of first season (shoulder surgery). But hasn't missed since.

And he's doing it with the worst 1st line center in the league.

- burn



if Bozie is the worst , then what does that make Kadri ?
he couldn't even come close to doing the job Bozie did when given the chance this year. Kessel and JVR both suffered without Bozie , he may not be the best in the league , but he is far from the worst and the best the leafs have , so get your head outta your ass
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