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BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jun 3 @ 11:35 AM ET
Coburn-Phaneuf
Timonen-Schenn
Amac-Streit

It's a very expensive defense, but definitely an improvement from what we have. (If we got Phaneuf, Grossmann or Schenn would likely get moved).

- PhillySportsGuy


I'm not sure I'd even bother with re-signing Timonen at that point, I could see just going with:

Coburn-Phaneuf
Amac-Schenn
Streit-Alt or Lauridsen
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jun 3 @ 11:35 AM ET
Its not ideal, but maybe. Though I think if they are willing to eat 1.5 million of the cap hit they can move him, and I'd rather have 1.5 for only 4 years instead of a buyout.
- BiggE


So would I. I just wanted to make my point clear and go to the extreme.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jun 3 @ 11:36 AM ET
There's nothing wrong with acknowledging that circumstances have changed.

Being decisive, even if it means making an error, is better than looking at a scenario over and over and then telling yourself that what you saw wasn't true

- AllInForFlyers


PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jun 3 @ 11:37 AM ET
I'm not sure I'd even bother with re-signing Timonen at that point, I could see just going with:

Coburn-Phaneuf
Amac-Schenn
Streit-Alt or Lauridsen

- BiggE


All things being equal, I would rather bring Kimmo back and move one of Schenn or Amac along with Grossman. That might be a little too much turnover though.

Bringing Kimmo back would likely give Alt no chance of winning a job. The team isn't going to sit guys making $5M to give a rookie a chance.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jun 3 @ 11:38 AM ET
Depends on the definition of a splash. Lamoriello traded his first round pick to Vancouver for Schnieder. Is that a splash?
- MJL


It was a great deal for them at the time. Then they tried their best to screw it up by letting Brodeur play in so many games this season. I hope Schneider bolts next offseason and they are left with nothing.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jun 3 @ 11:39 AM ET
It was a great deal for them at the time. Then they tried their best to screw it up by letting Brodeur play in so many games this season. I hope Schneider bolts next offseason and they are left with nothing.
- Feanor


Impossible.

The Zombie Franchise in Newark will find some other way. They always do.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jun 3 @ 11:40 AM ET
I guess LaCavalier for Phaneuf does not excite anyone from either fan base?
- spatso


Would Toronto do that deal?

I don't think Toronto would do that deal.
Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 3 @ 11:41 AM ET
True, though Carolina did surprise me a bit with Lindholm at #5. I would have thought they would have either gone D with Nurse or Risto or went with Monahan, but either way they still got a very good player.
- BiggE



Don't worry, they'll pretty much solve all their problems on D from what they get back for the Staals (3).
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 3 @ 11:41 AM ET
Impossible.

The Zombie Franchise in Newark will find some other way. They always do.

- johndewar


"Due to Cory Schneider leaving via UFA, the NHL has decided to grant them an extra first round pick for the next 7 NHL drafts."
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 3 @ 11:43 AM ET
Don't worry, they'll pretty much solve all their problems on D from what they get back for the Staals (3).
- Tomahawk


What's more likely:
1) Eric, Jordan, other (Jared?) go to NYR
2) Marc goes to NYR
3) All 4 go somewhere else
4) They never get all 4 in one place
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jun 3 @ 11:43 AM ET
It was a great deal for them at the time. Then they tried their best to screw it up by letting Brodeur play in so many games this season. I hope Schneider bolts next offseason and they are left with nothing.
- Feanor


That would be very Islander of them
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jun 3 @ 11:44 AM ET
"Due to Cory Schneider leaving via UFA, the NHL has decided to grant them an extra first round pick for the next 7 NHL drafts."
- jmatchett383


PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jun 3 @ 11:46 AM ET
What's more likely:
1) Eric, Jordan, other (Jared?) go to NYR
2) Marc goes to NYR
3) All 4 go somewhere else
4) They never get all 4 in one place

- jmatchett383


I think Marc re-signs in NY. There are already rumors that Carolina might consider dealing one or both of their Staals
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jun 3 @ 11:46 AM ET
"Due to Cory Schneider leaving via UFA, the NHL has decided to grant them an extra first round pick for the next 7 NHL drafts."
- jmatchett383


They'll somehow obtain Bruno Gervais and turn him into a Norris candidate.
RobFlyers#1
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.22.2009

Jun 3 @ 11:47 AM ET
"Flyers should target Thomas Vanek."

Have at it.

- jmatchett383

why??? No worth the asking price if he was Montreal might have had a better faith. Vanek = lots of talent + extreme stretches of laziness = not worth the asking price.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 3 @ 11:48 AM ET
I think Marc re-signs in NY. There are already rumors that Carolina might consider dealing one or both of their Staals
- PhillySportsGuy


All your Staal's are belong to us.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 3 @ 11:48 AM ET
why??? No worth the asking price if he was Montreal might have had a better faith. Vanek = lots of talent + extreme stretches of laziness = not worth the asking price.
- RobFlyers#1


Oh, I'm not advocating it. But I want to see if it could possibly create a Sharknado.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 3 @ 11:50 AM ET
Let me make my point clear, so we can move on from the VL topic.

I would rather buy VL out than have him come back to the Flyers. Even if that means eating $2M/year for the next 8 seasons. It would suck and I would much rather look to trade him and eat salary, but that's what I would do if I had to.

- PhillySportsGuy


The biggest issue isn't if he can still play or at least be an asset for a team that needs a goal scorer, it's how he fits. With what Berube seems to want to do, with Hextall's blessing, is be a more possession based, skating team. That isn't Lecavalier's strong point.
RobFlyers#1
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.22.2009

Jun 3 @ 11:51 AM ET
Oh, I'm not advocating it. But I want to see if it could possibly create a Sharknado.
- jmatchett383

PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jun 3 @ 11:59 AM ET
The biggest issue isn't if he can still play or at least be an asset for a team that needs a goal scorer, it's how he fits. With what Berube seems to want to do, with Hextall's blessing, is be a more possession based, skating team. That isn't Lecavalier's strong point.
- Jsaquella


Is there any team that says "We don't care as much about possession or skating"
Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 3 @ 12:00 PM ET
Is there any team that says "We don't care as much about possession or skating"
- PhillySportsGuy



BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Jun 3 @ 12:01 PM ET

- Tomahawk

beat me to it
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 3 @ 12:02 PM ET
Is there any team that says "We don't care as much about possession or skating"
- PhillySportsGuy


Not ignoring it, but making it a bigger focus, like LA has done under Lombardi. Let's face it, Darryl Sutter is as old school as they come and he's preaching possession.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 3 @ 12:03 PM ET

- Tomahawk

Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 3 @ 12:05 PM ET

- Jsaquella



He's probably barking at his toast to chip and chase its way out of the toaster.
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