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Byfuglien Ate Me
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Burger King
Joined: 09.24.2010

Jun 2 @ 1:42 PM ET
Maybe Winnipeg would consider a Kane for Kane swap?

Probably not...
As_I_See_It
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 02.28.2011

Jun 2 @ 1:44 PM ET
Maybe Winnipeg would consider a Kane for Kane swap?

Probably not...

- Byfuglien Ate Me


The Jets would need to add, BIG TIME!
MetroidPrime
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tim Brent's Basement, Cambridge, ON
Joined: 01.20.2010

Jun 2 @ 1:44 PM ET
Maybe Winnipeg would consider a Kane for Kane swap?

Probably not...

- Byfuglien Ate Me


the jersey makers would be down for that
Byfuglien Ate Me
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Burger King
Joined: 09.24.2010

Jun 2 @ 1:49 PM ET
The Jets would need to add, BIG TIME!
- As_I_See_It


Nah, Hawks know he is gonna walk to Buffalo after next year.

They should jettison him to Winnipeg!
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: The Clit Whisperer
Joined: 10.22.2011

Jun 2 @ 1:51 PM ET
Maybe Winnipeg would consider a Kane for Kane swap?

Probably not...

- Byfuglien Ate Me


Probably? I think it's more than probable that it would never, ever happen. Ever.
SimpleJack
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago , IL
Joined: 05.23.2013

Jun 2 @ 1:52 PM ET
This "article" was a failed attempt to spice up some imaginary rumors that there are issues that Kane has with the Blackhawks. He's not going anywhere. Not when there are so many options to clear up cap space. If anything someone like Oduya or Leddy, if not a guy like Shaw/Kruger after 2015 might go before they ever dare consider trading Kane. Just ludicrous to think he's leaving. Not gonna happen.
saskoil21
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.09.2009

Jun 2 @ 1:54 PM ET
I wonder if Kane to Philly works? I think Ek tried that one a year or so ago... Likely another kick at the can...
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: The Clit Whisperer
Joined: 10.22.2011

Jun 2 @ 1:55 PM ET
This "article" was a failed attempt to spice up some imaginary rumors that there are issues that Kane has with the Blackhawks. He's not going anywhere. Not when there are so many options to clear up cap space. If anything someone like Oduya or Leddy, if not a guy like Shaw/Kruger after 2015 might go before they ever dare consider trading Kane. Just ludicrous to think he's leaving. Not gonna happen.
- SimpleJack


Flyfreaky
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.20.2011

Jun 2 @ 1:56 PM ET
Crawford screwed the hawks in that series
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Jun 2 @ 1:59 PM ET
As much as I hate to say it because I don't agree with it, the Sabres will give up anything and everything to make sure Kane comes home to Buffalo. Picks, players, prospects, money, part ownership in the team....... nothing will stop them from getting him. I'm not trying to be a smarta$$ at all and please don't anyone take it that way but there is no way Buffalo doesn't get him, what makes it worse is we will still suck next year and if we get the first overall pick that will be a very good starting point.

Once again I don't agree with it if it happens but hard to say otherwise as of now, i'm sure half the league will be trying to grab him before that or after. Why rebuild and then give it all up.
OnPoint
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 04.07.2007

Jun 2 @ 2:00 PM ET
Start those Kane to Buffalo rumors.

Not gonna happen. But start the rumors.
Byfuglien Ate Me
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Burger King
Joined: 09.24.2010

Jun 2 @ 2:00 PM ET
Crawford screwed the hawks in that series
- Flyfreaky


Agreed, he was close to being outplayed by Bryz last series too...
sjsharks92
San Jose Sharks
Location: San Jose, CA
Joined: 07.13.2010

Jun 2 @ 2:01 PM ET
Boston shipped him out for a reason. Look what it did for them long term. Joe hasn't been able to get his team to the conference finals.
- thundachunk

We've been to the Conference Finals twice with Joe. But I think I get your point.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: The Clit Whisperer
Joined: 10.22.2011

Jun 2 @ 2:05 PM ET
We've been to the Conference Finals twice with Joe. But I think I get your point.
- sjsharks92


Joe's a great hockey player but he just can't be the 'go to' guy.

Why do I see him in a red wings or flyers jersey?
sjsharks92
San Jose Sharks
Location: San Jose, CA
Joined: 07.13.2010

Jun 2 @ 2:09 PM ET
Joe's a great hockey player but he just can't be the 'go to' guy.

Why do I see him in a red wings or flyers jersey?

- bloatedmosquito

I agree with that. And I too IF he is traded could see him in Philly or Detroit. Or St. Louis.
Maximum Signal
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 07.11.2008

Jun 2 @ 2:09 PM ET
As much as I hate to say it because I don't agree with it, the Sabres will give up anything and everything to make sure Kane comes home to Buffalo. Picks, players, prospects, money, part ownership in the team....... nothing will stop them from getting him. I'm not trying to be a smarta$$ at all and please don't anyone take it that way but there is no way Buffalo doesn't get him, what makes it worse is we will still suck next year and if we get the first overall pick that will be a very good starting point.

Once again I don't agree with it if it happens but hard to say otherwise as of now, i'm sure half the league will be trying to grab him before that or after. Why rebuild and then give it all up.

- SABRES 89


At this point , I don't think Buffalo gives anything up for him . If he comes here . And that is a big if . It is an UFA to play with all the talent the Sabres have built up . I can't see Chicago not backing the Brink's truck to both Kane and Toews to keep them together . Together they are Blackhawk's hockey. The sum of the whole is greater than the sum of the parts.
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Jun 2 @ 2:14 PM ET
At this point , I don't think Buffalo gives anything up for him . If he comes here . And that is a big if . It is an UFA to play with all the talent the Sabres have built up . I can't see Chicago not backing the Brink's truck to both Kane and Toews to keep them together . Together they are Blackhawk's hockey. The sum of the whole is greater than the sum of the parts.
- Maximum Signal

I'm not saying the Hawks let him go and i'm sure they won't but if it happens, the Sabres will be right there waiting.
Jordy8
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: windsor, ON
Joined: 06.21.2013

Jun 2 @ 2:16 PM ET
As much as I hate to say it because I don't agree with it, the Sabres will give up anything and everything to make sure Kane comes home to Buffalo. Picks, players, prospects, money, part ownership in the team....... nothing will stop them from getting him. I'm not trying to be a smarta$$ at all and please don't anyone take it that way but there is no way Buffalo doesn't get him, what makes it worse is we will still suck next year and if we get the first overall pick that will be a very good starting point.

Once again I don't agree with it if it happens but hard to say otherwise as of now, i'm sure half the league will be trying to grab him before that or after. Why rebuild and then give it all up.

- SABRES 89


Pros: live in a sweet city where I've won 2 Stanley cups and get paid to play with toews

Cons : go home and play in buffalo ........not happening
Maximum Signal
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 07.11.2008

Jun 2 @ 2:24 PM ET
I'm not saying the Hawks let him go and i'm sure they won't but if it happens, the Sabres will be right there waiting.
- SABRES 89


Maybe before with Terry Pegula bending folks ears . I do not think Tim Murray will deviate from his plan . To give everything away for Kane when he might get him for free is dumb . I agree with you . Bad plan to trade the farm for him right now . We should wait a year . Fits the rebuild better
kwolf68
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Mt. Lebanon, PA
Joined: 12.18.2010

Jun 2 @ 2:26 PM ET
This is one of the stupidest threads I've ever seen. Patrick Kane isn't going anywhere and the Hawks will be able to sign both to extensions before the season starts, possibly earlier.

You're talking about a 2 million raise per player and that will come at the expense of a guy like Johnny Oduya, who I believe will be moved at the draft. With guys like Handzus, Regin, Brookbank, and Khabibulin coming off the books, that also frees up an additional 4 million. If the cap goes up which we are all believing it will, the Hawks will have enough cap space to make it work.

- Budi1782



LMAO. Hear that guys...Hawks have all kinds of money. NOT. they have about 5 million to sign 3-4 forwards, 1 D-Man and a backup goalie. You can go on the cheap and use kids and you're still probably looking at only a million left over under the cap, SURELY not enough to sign all UFA (Toews, Kane, Kruger) and RFAs (Leddy, Saad) next year, NOT EVEN close.

Two million dollar raise per player? Did Kane or Toews tell you what they'd sign for?

They will be 9 million dollar players. Saad is playing for basically an hourly wage right now and he is going to be easily 4 million per.

Even not counting Leddy or Kruger (both HUGE role assets on the team) you need to find at least 9 million dollars to resign Toews and Kane, Saad and resign/replace Leddy/Oduya Kruger.

The ONLY WAY any of this works is to trade a player making at least 5 million per.

It is laughable, almost comedic level proportions to think the Hawks can give ALL their top stars huge raises, give the blossoming stars (Saad) much more money while dumping the vodka drinking backup goalie and a 3rd pairing d-man to a team already cap strapped and it will be easy.

Laughable. To make it work you will need to move one of Keith, Seabrook, Crawford, Hossa, Hammer...you'd be foolish to trade anyone of the top D-men...Crawford probably is too rich for most peoples blood...Hossa's contract not palatable to most, Sharp is your logical choice.

Sharp was playing THIRD line wing in the playoffs...what team in cap world can afford to pay a third liner 6 million dollars per?

NO, this is gonna be hard and it's gonna hurt. Deal Sharp this summer and you'll be fine...hang onto him and you're gonna have a brian Campbell trade Part II...you'll send a high priced and gifted player to someone for a big bag of Suck (Rostilav Olesz).
sensnucksnocups
Location: ON
Joined: 01.27.2012

Jun 2 @ 2:27 PM ET
Kane to Montreal for a package centered around Tomas Plekanec.
- DoubleDown


AHAHAHHA thats almost as funny as habs fans thinking they won the cup after beating boston.
Maximum Signal
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 07.11.2008

Jun 2 @ 2:28 PM ET
Pros: live in a sweet city where I've won 2 Stanley cups and get paid to play with toews

Cons : go home and play in buffalo ........not happening

- Jordy8


Wait a couple of years and see how full Buffalo's system is with Talent . Will be different decision then . I still think Chicago giving him and Toews a blank check to stay.
sensnucksnocups
Location: ON
Joined: 01.27.2012

Jun 2 @ 2:30 PM ET
this shouldnt even be a discussion. it's like getz and perry all over again, kane and toews will be hawks for life.

only thing we should be discussing is compensation. my guess is they get similar contracts as the ducks duo...wouldn't surprise me if they get a bit more. 8-9M sounds reasonable unless they decide to take a discount.
Whiskey-Tango
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Classification: Bipolar-Tanker, QC
Joined: 12.10.2011

Jun 2 @ 2:33 PM ET
Boston shipped him out for a reason. Look what it did for them long term. Joe hasn't been able to get his team to the conference finals.
- thundachunk


2011? When we smoked them in the conference finals....
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 2 @ 2:40 PM ET
He might be better than you give him credit for. He knows talent, and knows it well. His behind the bench resume isn't something to shrug off, he might be an adapt GM at knowing who to sign/trade for. His $/term objectivity, though, I don't have a clue.
- YzermanIsTheMan


I'm sorry, but I don't buy it. He does his research on player's history and such, but he's far from some draft/prospects guru, the guy's been dead wrong so many times, just like many others. At best, I'd hire him as an amateur/prospect scout, but I bet he gets paid more now than an amateur/prospect scout does.


I feel sorry for Pens fans if they hire him.
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