This picture confuses me. Didn't the Hawks win the Cup in Boston? Looks like the background is Chicago in this picture.
- PLindbergh31

didn't they have a cup ceremony in chicago later on?

I personally don't want Kimmo back. I think the money we'd give him for 1 more year could be better used elsewhere.
- mochoson

It could, but for who? Not Bergenheim or Gaustad. For a better defenseman, certainly. But is that player going to be available?

At least he won't get to do that if the Rangers win
- PhillySportsGuy

Why wouldn't he? He didn't play in game 6 of the Cup Finals against Boston. He changed into his uniform and went out on the ice.

Like on Gaustad or Rene Bourque
- PhillySportsGuy

I can't tell if this is sarcastic?

Why wouldn't he? He didn't play in game 6 of the Cup Finals against Boston. He changed into his uniform and went out on the ice.
- PLindbergh31

Is he allowed to if he's suspended?

didn't they have a cup ceremony in chicago later on?
- -davies-

Nope. That picture is from Boston. All the Hawks fans went down close to the glass. I guess most of the B's fans left.

I can't tell if this is sarcastic?
- mochoson

It is

Is he allowed to if he's suspended?
- PhillySportsGuy

Does he care if he's allowed?

It could, but for who? Not Bergenheim or Gaustad. For a better defenseman, certainly. But is that player going to be available?
- MJL

Here is my roster and I think it makes sense. I moved Grossmann as I think someteam could use his size and shot blocking. Also move Vinny to Nsh for Del Zotto. I think it makes sense and tried to think logically

CAPGEEK.COM ARMCHAIR GM ROSTER
CapGeek Armchair GM Roster
FORWARDS
Scott Hartnell ($4.750m) / Claude Giroux ($8.275m) / Jakub Voracek ($4.250m)
Mason Raymond ($2.500m) / Brayden Schenn ($1.750m) / Wayne Simmonds ($3.975m)
Jason Akeson ($1.000m) / Sean Couturier ($1.750m) / Matt Read ($3.625m)
Leo Komarov ($2.000m) / Scott Laughton ($0.863m) / Michael Raffl ($1.100m)
Zac Rinaldo ($0.750m) /
DEFENSEMEN
Mark Alt ($0.782m) / Braydon Coburn ($4.500m)
Mark Streit ($5.250m) / Andrew MacDonald ($5.000m)
Luke Schenn ($3.600m) / Michael Del Zotto ($2.700m)
GOALTENDERS
Steve Mason ($4.100m)
Thomas Greiss ($0.900m)
BUYOUTS
Daniel Briere ($0.000m)
Ilya Bryzgalov ($0.000m)
LTIR
Chris Pronger ($4.941m)
RETAINED SALARIES (1.58% of upper limit)
Vincent Lecavalier ($1.125m—25.00%)
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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(estimations for 2014-15)
SALARY CAP: $71,100,000; CAP PAYROLL: $64,545,000; BONUSES: $330,833
CAP SPACE (21-man roster): $6,555,000

I'd rather have him back at ~$4m for one year than sign another FA dman to a multi-year deal.
- Feanor

It depends on who it is. If it's a cheaper FA dman like Anton Stralman and it's no longer than 3 years (preferably 2), I'm ok with it. He's a solid NHL dman and he's a righty.

But I tend to agree with you.

Is he allowed to if he's suspended?
- PhillySportsGuy

Good question. Not sure. I guess his suspension would be over if there was a game 7. There is zero chance he would play in that game anyway. Lets hope we don't have to have the question answered and the Western Conf. team blasts the Rags.

It depends on who it is. If it's a cheaper FA dman like Anton Stralman and it's no longer than 3 years (preferably 2), I'm ok with it. He's a solid NHL dman and he's a righty.

But I tend to agree with you.
- mochoson

Not going to get Stralman for 2 years, or for cheaper money.

It depends on who it is. If it's a cheaper FA dman like Anton Stralman and it's no longer than 3 years (preferably 2), I'm ok with it. He's a solid NHL dman and he's a righty.

But I tend to agree with you.
- mochoson

I think Stralman's getting 4 x 4.

Here is my roster and I think it makes sense. I moved Grossmann as I think someteam could use his size and shot blocking. Also move Vinny to Nsh for Del Zotto. I think it makes sense and tried to think logically

CAPGEEK.COM ARMCHAIR GM ROSTER
CapGeek Armchair GM Roster
FORWARDS
Scott Hartnell ($4.750m) / Claude Giroux ($8.275m) / Jakub Voracek ($4.250m)
Mason Raymond ($2.500m) / Brayden Schenn ($1.750m) / Wayne Simmonds ($3.975m)
Jason Akeson ($1.000m) / Sean Couturier ($1.750m) / Matt Read ($3.625m)
Leo Komarov ($2.000m) / Scott Laughton ($0.863m) / Michael Raffl ($1.100m)
Zac Rinaldo ($0.750m) /
DEFENSEMEN



And there is still enough cap to sign Kimmo at 4mil if Alt is not ready or you think you need kimmo
Mark Alt ($0.782m) / Braydon Coburn ($4.500m)
Mark Streit ($5.250m) / Andrew MacDonald ($5.000m)
Luke Schenn ($3.600m) / Michael Del Zotto ($2.700m)
GOALTENDERS
Steve Mason ($4.100m)
Thomas Greiss ($0.900m)
BUYOUTS
Daniel Briere ($0.000m)
Ilya Bryzgalov ($0.000m)
LTIR
Chris Pronger ($4.941m)
RETAINED SALARIES (1.58% of upper limit)
Vincent Lecavalier ($1.125m—25.00%)
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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(estimations for 2014-15)
SALARY CAP: $71,100,000; CAP PAYROLL: $64,545,000; BONUSES: $330,833
CAP SPACE (21-man roster): $6,555,000
- J35Bacher

Not following here. How can it still be possible if it's understood it can't be done regardless?

Here is the deal, the Flyers have to be at, or under the Upper Limit with Pronger and his cap hit counting against the Cap, on the first day of the Season, before they get the exemption. How can they do that with the roster you propose? Add the 4.9M to your roster, and how does that happen?
Regardless of if the Upper limit is 71.1M or lower.
- MJL

Because I said a similar roster, meaning making similar moves. That's it. Not the same players. Not the same cap hits and contracts. Not all the same moves. Just something similar.

I think Stralman's getting 4 x 4.
- Feanor

In that case, no freakin way. He's not worth a dollar over 3, and that's a lot for me.

But your probably right.

I think Stralman's getting 4 x 4.
- Feanor

He rejected 3 x 3, so maybe. Thanks to AMac, he'll probably get 6 x 5

Nope. That picture is from Boston. All the Hawks fans went down close to the glass. I guess most of the B's fans left.
- PLindbergh31

same thing happened in Philly. I think friends and family get a bunch of tix reserved for cup clinching away games.

Because I said a similar roster, meaning making similar moves. That's it. Not the same players. Not the same cap hits and contracts. Not all the same moves. Just something similar.
- mochoson

What's the point then? How much leeway is given for something similar? Your roster's total cap spending needs to be cut by 3-5M. Depending on what the Upper Limit winds up being.

same thing happened in Philly. I think friends and family get a bunch of tix reserved for cup clinching away games.
- aightwebang17

Yep. I think you are correct.

I think Stralman's getting 4 x 4.
- Feanor

I think the MacDonald deal helps set the market for Stralman. He may not get as much, but close. He'll be one of the top defenseman in free agency.

Here is my roster and I think it makes sense. I moved Grossmann as I think someteam could use his size and shot blocking. Also move Vinny to Nsh for Del Zotto. I think it makes sense and tried to think logically

CAPGEEK.COM ARMCHAIR GM ROSTER
CapGeek Armchair GM Roster
FORWARDS
Scott Hartnell ($4.750m) / Claude Giroux ($8.275m) / Jakub Voracek ($4.250m)
Mason Raymond ($2.500m) / Brayden Schenn ($1.750m) / Wayne Simmonds ($3.975m)
Jason Akeson ($1.000m) / Sean Couturier ($1.750m) / Matt Read ($3.625m)
Leo Komarov ($2.000m) / Scott Laughton ($0.863m) / Michael Raffl ($1.100m)
Zac Rinaldo ($0.750m) /
DEFENSEMEN
Mark Alt ($0.782m) / Braydon Coburn ($4.500m)
Mark Streit ($5.250m) / Andrew MacDonald ($5.000m)
Luke Schenn ($3.600m) / Michael Del Zotto ($2.700m)
GOALTENDERS
Steve Mason ($4.100m)
Thomas Greiss ($0.900m)
BUYOUTS
Daniel Briere ($0.000m)
Ilya Bryzgalov ($0.000m)
LTIR
Chris Pronger ($4.941m)
RETAINED SALARIES (1.58% of upper limit)
Vincent Lecavalier ($1.125m—25.00%)
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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(estimations for 2014-15)
SALARY CAP: $71,100,000; CAP PAYROLL: $64,545,000; BONUSES: $330,833
CAP SPACE (21-man roster): $6,555,000
- J35Bacher

I don't know about that defense... Alt on the top line?!?

I think the MacDonald deal helps set the market for Stralman. He may not get as much, but close. He'll be one of the top defenseman in free agency.
- MJL

MJL. Can yuo check out my roster as i thknk you tend to be more logical then some

I don't know about that defense... Alt on the top line?!?
- Streit2ThePoint

The d is just six guys. The pairings can be worked out

MJL. Can yuo check out my roster as i thknk you tend to be more logical then some
- J35Bacher

Cap wise, your roster is doable.

Here's the thing to remember. They need to maximize Pronger's LTIR. They do that by a combination of players on ELC's that are waiver exempt. And by waiving players such as Hall and Rosehill, to include Pronger on the opening day Cap. On day 1 of the season, they place Pronger on LTIR. And get the exemption. Recall the other players. All they have to do is submit a 20 man roster that is compliant on opening day. And not ncessarily the roster that they will actually start the season with.