It's an interesting thought. The NHL seems hell bent on establishing rivalries. After the first lockout, they had the Flyers playing the Pens, Isles, Rangers and Devils 6 times each. Thats almost 1/3 of their games vs Division opponents.

They did away with that, but established the divisional playoff round to enhance the rivalries.
- PhillySportsGuy

The trouble with 1 vs 16 is travel. In those playoffs, in 1980, the Flyers first round was vs Edmonton. Then they played Minnesota. The semi-final was against the Rangers, and they finished up vs the Isles.

Did Liam just say, "only 1 team has rebounded from down 3-1 in a conference final to make it to the SCF"?

AHHHHHRRRGGGH@(@())!!!@%^
- eayost

Speaking of hate, this dude is a tool and a half. Yowza.

I mean I just hate everything at this point, til about an hour from now when it fizzles out/I feel better after listening to music/playing guitar
- Giroux_Is_God

right what im doing. literally nothing worthwhile tonight, so i just stayed in and watched the game with some drinks. now, music time.

could very well be. at the time, carle's was another one of those deals where it was hard to believe.

but the writing was on the wall by that point.
- stayinthefnnet

Flyers had a deal with him, but lacked the tagging space to sign him in season because they acquired Grossmann and signed him to an extension. Then, they spent the offseason going after Suter and hoping Carle would be a fallback option.

If Pronger were still with the team, I believe they work out a deal with Carle before he reached ufa. They wouldn't have had to trade for Grossmann either.

Our whole defense has been patch worked because of losing Pronger.

It's amazing we were two games away with only 2 d men pairings and the goalies we had.
- feelingkettle

we were 1 goal away from a game 7. 1. that entire run was absurd. just think about the fact that leighton had to come off the bench in his first game back with the team after his 2 month high ankle sprain injury to start the comeback against boston.

game 82 with carle tying the game in third, and beating csp in a shootout with boucher at the other end...the flyers are 2nd worst all time in SO winning percentage.

down 3-0 on the road in game 7 to the bruins.

can you imagine if they won the cup with (frank)ing leighton in goal?

The trouble with 1 vs 16 is travel. In those playoffs, in 1980, the Flyers first round was vs Edmonton. Then they played Minnesota. The semi-final was against the Rangers, and they finished up vs the Isles.
- Jsaquella

They were slowly working their way closer to home.

Did Liam just say, "only 1 team has rebounded from down 3-1 in a conference final to make it to the SCF"?

AHHHHHRRRGGGH@(@())!!!@%^
- eayost

On Hockey Unfiltered, he suggested the NHL use the shootout in the playoffs. Lost all respect for Liam at that point.

mike richards made halak his female dog. i was at that game. and it was glorious.
- hammarby31

he did. i distinctly remember almost actually hollering and rooting. until i looked around the room and saw everyone else cheering and going nuts. i thought what have i become and sat down in shame.

Did Liam just say, "only 1 team has rebounded from down 3-1 in a conference final to make it to the SCF"?

AHHHHHRRRGGGH@(@())!!!@%^
- eayost

Don;t worry. PLind was in here earlier to mention it.

On Hockey Unfiltered, he suggested the NHL use the shootout in the playoffs. Lost all respect for Liam at that point.
- Jsaquella

I might stop being a fan if that happened

I mean I just hate everything at this point, til about an hour from now when it fizzles out/I feel better after listening to music/playing guitar
- Giroux_Is_God

i feel better after my wife says, "ok, fiiiiine....."

Flyers had a deal with him, but lacked the tagging space to sign him in season because they acquired Grossmann and signed him to an extension. Then, they spent the offseason going after Suter and hoping Carle would be a fallback option.

If Pronger were still with the team, I believe they work out a deal with Carle before he reached ufa. They wouldn't have had to trade for Grossmann either.

Our whole defense has been patch worked because of losing Pronger.
- PhillySportsGuy

no, i agree. i just mean the deal he ultimately ended up getting. at the time, it was just frustrating as a fan of the game. i always thought carle was fairly decent. sort of limited, but not bad at what he could do.

but that one, the wideman one. ugh. floodgates.

he did. i distinctly remember almost actually hollering and rooting. until i looked around the room and saw everyone else cheering and going nuts. i thought what have i become and sat down in shame.
- stayinthefnnet

i understand. hatred can be blinding.

I might stop being a fan if that happened
- PhillySportsGuy

i love the shootout. but it has its place in the regular season.


for playoffs. (frank) off.

although, it would be cool to see fleury win a conn smythe because of it

no, i agree. i just mean the deal he ultimately ended up getting. at the time, it was just frustrating as a fan of the game. i always thought carle was fairly decent. sort of limited, but not bad at what he could do.

but that one, the wideman one. ugh. floodgates.
- stayinthefnnet

The Wideman one was bad. Calgary does some strange things.

right what im doing. literally nothing worthwhile tonight, so i just stayed in and watched the game with some drinks. now, music time.
- stayinthefnnet

Nothing like it

I may also imbibe tonight. Nice call.

The Wideman one was bad. Calgary does some strange things.
- PhillySportsGuy

that they do. honestly. i worry very much that a certain baseball team is going to follow their model of operations too closely for comfort.

i love the shootout. but it has its place in the regular season.


for playoffs. (frank) off.

although, it would be cool to see fleury win a conn smythe because of it
- stayinthefnnet

You love the shootout because your team is so good at it. It's like a bonus point.

I love how Bill refers to it as the skills competition. Thats all it is. I hate the idea of a team game being made into such an individual spectacle.

Can you imagine the NBA ending on the a three point shootout or baseball ending with a home run derby?

People have made ties out to be this awful thing, but they're better than shootouts.

End rant

Nothing like it

I may also imbibe tonight. Nice call.
- Giroux_Is_God

Cheers. although it is fairly late. therefore it is an acoustically themed set list.

i feel better after my wife says, "ok, fiiiiine....."
- hammarby31

I don't have that luxury right now. If I was at school and the better half was within 2 blocks of me, then sure!

that they do. honestly. i worry very much that a certain baseball team is going to follow their model of operations too closely for comfort.
- stayinthefnnet

They really do resemble the Flames.

You love the shootout because your team is so good at it. It's like a bonus point.

I love how Bill refers to it as the skills competition. Thats all it is. I hate the idea of a team game being made into such an individual spectacle.

Can you imagine the NBA ending on the a three point shootout or baseball ending with a home run derby?

People have made ties out to be this awful thing, but they're better than shootouts.

End rant
- PhillySportsGuy

honestly, i dont. it is stupid. and it is unfair. but it is a guilty pleasure.

if forced to think about it rationally, there is absolutely no way it holds up. at all.

but it is beyond exciting to watch. If i flipped the channel and somehow landed on two high school teams from norway locked in a shootout, i wouldnt change the channel.

Q: You guys really had Patrick Kane's number early in the series. What do you do to get back to that in game 7?

Answer from Darryl "I swear I'm not drunk all the time" Sutter: We'll do our best

His pressers are just...they're a trainwreck and a half.

You love the shootout because your team is so good at it. It's like a bonus point.

I love how Bill refers to it as the skills competition. Thats all it is. I hate the idea of a team game being made into such an individual spectacle.

Can you imagine the NBA ending on the a three point shootout or baseball ending with a home run derby?

People have made ties out to be this awful thing, but they're better than shootouts.

End rant
- PhillySportsGuy

The hockey shootout just lends itself well to deciding the extra point in a tie game. Soccer is similar, but the goalie is at more of a disadvantage than hockey imo. Bill can call it a skills comp all he wants. He's correct. Hockey is a game mainly comprised of skill, and skaters often face a goalie in a breakaway situation in a game. I have no problem with it for regular season when time and travel are more critical than playing a game every second day in the playoffs.

It's an interesting thought. The NHL seems hell bent on establishing rivalries. After the first lockout, they had the Flyers playing the Pens, Isles, Rangers and Devils 6 times each. Thats almost 1/3 of their games vs Division opponents.

They did away with that, but established the divisional playoff round to enhance the rivalries.
- PhillySportsGuy

imho, it would make for such a better ending, not to mention the opportunity to create more rivalries by having playoffs between the conferences in earlier rounds. the flyers beat the oilers in the first round of the 1980 playoffs. i think that's awesome. the nhl (frank)ed up a good thing. shocking.