That's what all the ugly people say!
- MJL

Gotta shake what your momma gave you...

Ghost is 5'11" and they took him two years ago.
- Feanor

I know and it turned out to be a great draft for them.

I think they've done a better job of drafting in the later rounds over the last few years. My real concern is their penchant for trading 2nd, 3rd and 4th rounders so frequently.

It's a good thing the Flyers have hit on so many first rounders because they'd be awful if they didn't.

With Hextall at the helm, I'd expect the priorities/criteria to shift a bit... think you'll see less lusting after Bobby Clarke "character" guys who do everything well and a migration toward more of a Lombardi-style, which seems to be going after guys who do one particular thing exceptionally, but may have flaws in key areas of concern like work-ethic/conditioning/mobility/etc.

So instead of guys like McCann, you may see them take risks on somebody like Ho-Sang, DeAngelo, Nylander, etc. I don't think they'll be as shy about taking Russians either (Barbashev).

I don't think they'll make a splash. I think they try to bring in more picks it they can, but I think they stay at #17 for the 1st-round. I definitely don't see them trading their pick(s) for immediate help.
- Tomahawk

I think it remains to be seen what kind of GM Hextall is going to be. I think he's going to have his own plan and agenda, rather then to be influenced by one former colleague, or any of his current colleagues.

To be honest, the Flyers have a better track record in the first round than almost every other team.

I would like to see them adjust their post 1st round style. Go for more skilled guys instead of guys who are more likely to crack the bottom 6, but have very little upside.

More of a focus on defenseman and goalies in the middle rounds would help as well.
- PhillySportsGuy

Since 2010, the Flyers have drafted 25 players. 11 of those players have been defenseman. Including drafting defenseman with 7 of their last 13 picks

I think it remains to be seen what kind of GM Hextall is going to be. I think he's going to have his own plan and agenda, rather then to be influenced by one former colleague, or any of his current colleagues.
- MJL

I can't help but notice everything that comes out of his mouth sounds like Dean Lombardi... I'm sure he has his own take on things, but there's no mistake who his mentor was.

Just like Homer did some things his way, but his overall approach was also very steeped in Clarke-isms.

Ghost is 5'11" and they took him two years ago.
- Feanor

Is he really 5' 11"?

I can't help but notice everything that comes out of his mouth sounds like Dean Lombardi... I'm sure he has his own take on things, but there's no mistake who his mentor was.

Just like Homer did some things his way, but his overall approach was also very steeped in Clarke-isms.
- Tomahawk

I think a lot of what he has said has been misconstrued and tainted with what some want the Flyers philosophy to be. I think it remains to be seen what his approach is. Talk is just talk.

Prices for Rangers SCF tickets are astronomical... maybe we'll hit that $71M cap-ceiling after all...
http://www.sbnation.com/n...ers-madison-square-garden

Is he really 5' 11"?
- MJL

That's what he's listed at here.

http://www.eliteprospects.../player.php?player=122787

I think a lot of what he has said has been misconstrued and tainted with what some want the Flyers philosophy to be. I think it remains to be seen what his approach is. Talk is just talk.
- MJL

Prices for Rangers SCF tickets are astronomical... maybe we'll hit that $71M cap-ceiling after all...
http://www.sbnation.com/n...ers-madison-square-garden
- Tomahawk

holy cats!

i'm sure it's been said a million times over the past few weeks, but the NHL brass must be just lining up shots of tequila at the thought of two top 3 market US teams (and potentially a Canadian team) in the SCF

Just a quick BTW
If any of you are in the south Jersey shore area tonight, I'm playing Ventnor Coffee on Dorset Ave in Ventnor heights. Our first of 2 sets starts around 7:30-7:45, and admission is free

You may now return to your regularly scheduled hockey talk

Is he really 5' 11"?
- MJL

Well, they have been stretching him for 2 years!

- Tomahawk

That's a quality response. What I've seen written on here, is that some are hoping that Hextall isn't going be aggressive in both the trade market, or in free agency, like the organization has been in the past for a long time, under a number of GM's. Hextall's words were taken out of context, and responses were made to posters who proposed bigger trades or advocated a free agent signing, such as" I guess you weren't aware of what Hextall said". When in reality, Hextall said no such thing. And all he did was mention the pitfalls and both the positives and negatives of making big moves. Such as big trades or free agent signings. And he didn't state anything that would rule any of those kinds of moves out.
Also the reality is that this organization has been committed to drafting and developing, and sticking to a core of players, for a number of years. Even before Hextall took over. So we need to see what Hextall's approach is and how he handles things. And I think it's premature to state he's going to follow Lombardi's or Holmgren's model and history. I think he's going to forge his own style, and do things his way. As he should. And I for one hope that the Flyers continue to use all avenues available to them, to build the team. Including trades and free agency.

That's what he's listed at here.

http://www.eliteprospects.../player.php?player=122787
- Feanor

I hope he is 5' 11". For some reason I though he was like 5' 9" or so.

Just a quick BTW
If any of you are in the south Jersey shore area tonight, I'm playing Ventnor Coffee on Dorset Ave in Ventnor heights. Our first of 2 sets starts around 7:30-7:45, and admission is free

You may now return to your regularly scheduled hockey talk

- BiggE

have fun. unfortunately, i'm going to see Johnny and the Mothers at the Savoy in Vermont tonight.

- PhillySportsGuy

Wtf! iS THIS???

have fun. unfortunately, i'm going to see Johnny and the Mothers at the Savoy in Vermont tonight.
- wilsonecho91

nice

That's a quality response. What I've seen written on here, is that some are hoping that Hextall isn't going be aggressive in both the trade market, or in free agency, like the organization has been in the past for a long time, under a number of GM's. Hextall's words were taken out of context, and responses were made to posters who proposed bigger trades or advocated a free agent signing, such as" I guess you weren't aware of what Hextall said". When in reality, Hextall said no such thing. And all he did was mention the pitfalls and both the positives and negatives of making big moves. Such as big trades or free agent signings. And he didn't state anything that would rule any of those kinds of moves out.
Also the reality is that this organization has been committed to drafting and developing, and sticking to a core of players, for a number of years. Even before Hextall took over. So we need to see what Hextall's approach is and how he handles things. And I think it's premature to state he's going to follow Lombardi's or Holmgren's model and history. I think he's going to forge his own style, and do things his way. As he should. And I for one hope that the Flyers continue to use all avenues available to them, to build the team. Including trades and free agency.
- MJL

You bored? Or just feeling feisty?

What's the topics today?

Skateaway Bandits
- J35Bacher

Skateaway? Like...on 422?

What's the topics today?
- Sms401

Tom (frank)in Wilson

Tom (frank)in Wilson
- Giroux_Is_God

What about him.

I was wondering if anyone knew if there are any restrictions on how much or how many years someone can use in a trade of a contract? Ie. say we trade Vinny but we have to keep part of the contract. Can we trade him and per say keep his cap hit fully for like 2 years but not have to have any cap hit last 2 years. Or maybe keep 1 mil cap hit next year 2 mil cap hit the year after 3 mil the 3rd year?

I was wondering if anyone knew if there are any restrictions on how much or how many years someone can use in a trade of a contract? Ie. say we trade Vinny but we have to keep part of the contract. Can we trade him and per say keep his cap hit fully for like 2 years but not have to have any cap hit last 2 years. Or maybe keep 1 mil cap hit next year 2 mil cap hit the year after 3 mil the 3rd year?
- Sms401

Teams can retain a percentage of a contract’s remaining cap hit, salary and bonuses in trades. The following basic stipulations apply:

No more than 50 per cent of the salary/cap hit can be retained
The retained percentage must be the same for both salary and cap hit
The retained percentage cannot be altered from year to year
Salary/cap hit cannot be retained on more than three contracts per team in one season
The aggregate cap hits retained cannot exceed 15 per cent of the upper limit
A contract can be traded only twice where salary/cap hit is retained

In the event salary is retained a second time on the same contract, the percentage of salary/cap hit retained is applied to the full salary/cap hit and cannot alter the terms of the first retained salary transaction. Example: Devan Dubnyk was traded from Edmonton to Nashville on Jan. 15, 2014. Dubnyk's cap hit was $3.5M and the Oilers retained 50 per cent of it ($1.75M). Later that season, Nashville dealt Dubnyk to Montreal on March 5, 2014, retaining 25 percent of Dubnyk's contract. The percentage applied to Dubnyk's full cap hit of $3.5M, meaning the Oilers continued to retain 50 percent of it ($1.75M) while the Predators picked up 25 percent of it ($875K) and the Canadiens — if Dubnyk had been on their roster — handled the remaining 25 percent ($875K).

Regardless of whether a player with retained salary is on the acquiring team's NHL roster or loaned elsewhere (ie. the minor leagues), he continues to count against the cap of team(s) retaining his salary/cap hit. This stipulation prevents teams from circumventing the "Wade Redden Rule" for buried contracts, where without it, a team could halve a player's cap hit and potentially eliminate any cap cost while the player is "buried" in the minors. Example: Using the Dubnyk case above, the Canadiens assigned him to their AHL affiliate in Hamilton immediately after acquiring him on March 5. Although he did not count against Montreal's cap, his retained portions continued to count for Nashville (25 percent) and Edmonton (50 percent).

A team cannot reacquire a player within one calendar year of a retained salary transaction unless the player's contract expires during that time. A team also cannot reacquire in a retained salary transaction a player who was on its reserve list within the past calendar year, meaning a team can't trade a player simply to reacquire him at a reduced rate.

In the event a contract involved in a retained salary transaction is bought out, the buyout obligations — salary and cap hit — are divided between the two teams at the same percentage.