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jochfr
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville , TN
Joined: 07.11.2009

May 29 @ 3:28 PM ET
So he might like to pee on girls and have sex with them in an uncomfortable place?


You know like the back of a volkswagon.



(waits to see who gets the movie reference)

- dadeadhead

dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

May 29 @ 3:33 PM ET

- jochfr




http://youtu.be/xA5QELbB-vU

19 sec mark thru 52 sec mark
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

May 29 @ 3:40 PM ET
http://youtu.be/xA5QELbB-vU

19 sec mark thru 52 sec mark

- dadeadhead


LOVE that movie...where did you get those beautiful toys
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

May 29 @ 3:44 PM ET
LOVE that movie...where did you get these wonderful toys
- Stripes77






stashu
Buffalo Sabres
Location: SC
Joined: 06.04.2008

May 29 @ 3:58 PM ET
So he might like to pee on girls and have sex with them in an uncomfortable place?


You know like the back of a volkswagon.


(waits to see who gets the movie reference)

- dadeadhead


Love that movie
buffalo 1
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 08.30.2006

May 29 @ 4:01 PM ET
nice blog


(waits for the Miller is the best option, enroth is an ahl goalie, hackett is a bum, too much blah in net, bring back hasek, tank for the first overall pick, I can kick your ass, glue factor, vanek floats, videos, beer, music, wings, and whatever else becomes the flavor of the minute.)

- homiedclown

Basically we have a lot of lumps of coal and were hopeing at least one turns into a legit NHL starting goalie at this point. Oh Vanek does float ask Montreal.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

May 29 @ 4:01 PM ET
He's one of the guys I could see being moved for E.Kane if they make a move for him.


Yeah the team speed as a whole is very lacking.

- dadeadhead

Grigorenko could fit in the Peg, considering they are pretty small down the middle of the ice.

Not sure I would want to give too much more for Kane. Maybe Grigorenko+ Hodgson?
buffalo 1
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 08.30.2006

May 29 @ 4:05 PM ET
FTFY.

There is no forward I would consider untouchable, IMO. Yes that includes Girgensons, the return would have to be great though.

- ImThatGuy

2 untouchable players Zads and Girgensons. 0 % chance Girgensons is traded by TM.
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

May 29 @ 4:07 PM ET
2 untouchable players Zads and Girgensons.% chance Girgensons is traded by TM.
- buffalo 1



TM said Myers, Risto, and Girgs.


If you want them be prepared to pay.

To me that means untouchable.
stashu
Buffalo Sabres
Location: SC
Joined: 06.04.2008

May 29 @ 4:09 PM ET
Grigorenko could fit in the Peg, considering they are pretty small down the middle of the ice.

Not sure I would want to give too much more for Kane. Maybe Grigorenko+ Hodgson?

- sbroads24


I want nothing to do with Kane if having to give up someone in the top 6 to get him. He's a 50 point per year player, Hodgson had 44 last year, 34 in a shortened prior season, and seems to be coming into his own now so it seems too lateral a move for a headcase.

I also wouldn't want to give up a decent player plus Grigorenko, who I think will finally have his chance to develop into that first round pick kind of player he should be.

Let some other team overpay for Kane, I want the other Kane anyways. He's from Buffalo after all!!!
Mentalorgasm5
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "F-" Robert, NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

May 29 @ 4:11 PM ET
In a weak draft.
- dadeadhead

Exactly, which would only strengthen ehrhoffs value in the trade since, we would only be getting a pick.
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

May 29 @ 4:18 PM ET
Exactly, which would only strengthen ehrhoffs value in the trade since, we would only be getting a pick.
- Mentalorgasm5



Nobody in the top 10 is moving out of the 1st rd for Hoff and 2 2014 2nds.

You might be able to get in the 12-20 range.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

May 29 @ 4:25 PM ET
I want nothing to do with Kane if having to give up someone in the top 6 to get him. He's a 50 point per year player, Hodgson had 44 last year, 34 in a shortened prior season, and seems to be coming into his own now so it seems too lateral a move for a headcase.

I also wouldn't want to give up a decent player plus Grigorenko, who I think will finally have his chance to develop into that first round pick kind of player he should be.

Let some other team overpay for Kane, I want the other Kane anyways. He's from Buffalo after all!!!

- stashu

I agree mostly, I don't think Kane is a superstar, although I do think he has the ability to be a difference maker
Mentalorgasm5
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "F-" Robert, NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

May 29 @ 4:28 PM ET
Nobody in the top 10 is moving out of the 1st rd for Hoff and 2 2014 2nds.

You might be able to get in the 12-20 range.

- dadeadhead

I love how definite you are
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

May 29 @ 4:30 PM ET
I love how definite you are
- Mentalorgasm5



Would you move out of the top 10 for Hoff and 2 seconds in a weak draft?


Carolina did it for Staal a few years ago. Something IMO they would like to take back.
buffalo 1
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 08.30.2006

May 29 @ 4:46 PM ET
Nobody in the top 10 is moving out of the 1st rd for Hoff and 2 2014 2nds.

You might be able to get in the 12-20 range.

- dadeadhead

buffalo 1
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 08.30.2006

May 29 @ 4:47 PM ET
I want nothing to do with Kane if having to give up someone in the top 6 to get him. He's a 50 point per year player, Hodgson had 44 last year, 34 in a shortened prior season, and seems to be coming into his own now so it seems too lateral a move for a headcase.

I also wouldn't want to give up a decent player plus Grigorenko, who I think will finally have his chance to develop into that first round pick kind of player he should be.

Let some other team overpay for Kane, I want the other Kane anyways. He's from Buffalo after all!!!

- stashu

I tell you who Id give the bank for is PK Suban.
stashu
Buffalo Sabres
Location: SC
Joined: 06.04.2008

May 29 @ 4:48 PM ET
I tell you who Id give the bank for is PK Suban.
- buffalo 1


Not me, they need help up front more than we need Subban. If they were to trade for a top notch d-man, I'd prefer a stay at home type
Mentalorgasm5
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "F-" Robert, NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

May 29 @ 4:52 PM ET
Would you move out of the top 10 for Hoff and 2 seconds in a weak draft?


Carolina did it for Staal a few years ago. Something IMO they would like to take back.

- dadeadhead

Depending out the state of my team, absolutely. What's the odds of a player taken 6-10 to be as successful/productive of ehrhoff? In a normal year about 16-19 percent, throw in the fact it's a weak draft, so even less of a chance. And you're only moving 24 spots back, while obtaining another early 2nd on top of ehrhoff.

A team like Carolina, could see it as a move that would help them make a jump into the playoffs when you add a vet such as that to their young d core.
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

May 29 @ 5:00 PM ET
Depending out the state of my team, absolutely. What's the odds of a player taken 6-10 to be as successful/productive of ehrhoff? In a normal year about 16-19 percent, throw in the fact it's a weak draft, so even less of a chance. And you're only moving 24 spots back, while obtaining another early 2nd on top of ehrhoff.

A team like Carolina, could see it as a move that would help them make a jump into the playoffs when you add a vet such as that to their young d core.

- Mentalorgasm5



Unless you've acquired that pick via trade, chances are you need much more than just a seasoned vet like Ehrhoff to make you a legitimate playoff contender if you're in that draft position. You're better off keeping the pick.
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

May 29 @ 5:01 PM ET
Depending out the state of my team, absolutely. What's the odds of a player taken 6-10 to be as successful/productive of ehrhoff? In a normal year about 16-19 percent, throw in the fact it's a weak draft, so even less of a chance. And you're only moving 24 spots back, while obtaining another early 2nd on top of ehrhoff.

A team like Carolina, could see it as a move that would help them make a jump into the playoffs when you add a vet such as that to their young d core.

- Mentalorgasm5



Last team in the world to make that mistake again. They are rumored to be looking to move one of Staal, Staal, or Skinner and figure a way to 86 Cam Ward. They are looking more and more like a team ready for full rebuild mode.

Ehlers, Virtanen, Kapanen, or Nylander has more value to them than Hoff and 2 seconds IMO.

buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

May 29 @ 5:01 PM ET
Not me, they need help up front more than we need Subban. If they were to trade for a top notch d-man, I'd prefer a stay at home type
- stashu



I understand he was great in the Boston series, but the way he's been out of gas in this series makes me question his conditioning.
buffalo 1
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 08.30.2006

May 29 @ 5:03 PM ET
Depending out the state of my team, absolutely. What's the odds of a player taken 6-10 to be as successful/productive of ehrhoff? In a normal year about 16-19 percent, throw in the fact it's a weak draft, so even less of a chance. And you're only moving 24 spots back, while obtaining another early 2nd on top of ehrhoff.

A team like Carolina, could see it as a move that would help them make a jump into the playoffs when you add a vet such as that to their young d core.

- Mentalorgasm5

I think Carolina has internal and team indentity issues going on.That might be the last team that would want Ehrhoff.Even Eric Stahl looked unmotivated and tired this season.Anyways I predict this is gong to be another boring draft myself.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

May 29 @ 5:04 PM ET
I understand he was great in the Boston series, but the way he's been out of gas in this series makes me question his conditioning.
- buffalofan19

He also just isn't that great. Don't get me wrong, he's an awesome hockey player but he's not on the Doughty, Weber level just yet
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

May 29 @ 5:04 PM ET
Unless you've acquired that pick via trade, chances are you need much more than just a seasoned vet like Ehrhoff to make you a legitimate playoff contender if you're in that draft position. You're better off keeping the pick.
- buffalofan19



Bingo.

IMO the 2 seconds are an insult. They might be willing to move back a few spots but completely out of the 1st rd when you pick in the top 10 is a quick way to get the ax. Carolina has a new GM and looking to make his mark. Keeping the pick and drafting a guy with a big ceiling is a way to do that. Unless you can use the pick to trade for a superstar, you keep the pick.
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