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WaterBoy
Location: Gardez-le votre ANGLAIS, YT
Joined: 06.27.2006

Jun 2 @ 11:40 AM ET
Lancer des gens en arrière du bateau !!!

Throw someone under the bus.

DoubleDown
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Not to point any fingers but Tyson Barrie has looked awful in the blue and white for the Leafs., QC
Joined: 07.28.2006

Jun 2 @ 11:40 AM ET
like a prostitute you mean?
- Aetherial


well he's the NHL's version of a hoooker, so yeah
TouenneTiiTree
Location: #effetjulien
Joined: 05.22.2012

Jun 2 @ 11:41 AM ET
Stee would indeed be dumb enough to feud with himself.
- WaterBoy


habby
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Maybe because he won best defenceman of the year, that's how they get paid these days-Alex Kovalev
Joined: 08.31.2006

Jun 2 @ 11:42 AM ET
so the coach sends messages for next year int he conference final?



hmm.... he's not a very good coach.

- dt99999

I have no clue why he did or didn't play Vanek with DD and Pax again. I do think it's possible that a coach of a relatively young team, who lost their starting goalie and most important player, could decide to send a message through a guy who he knows won't be back on the team next year and is showing very little effort even in the conf final.
I also don't think it would make him a bad coach. The fact that Vanek is supposedly healthy make his performance that much worse.
WaterBoy
Location: Gardez-le votre ANGLAIS, YT
Joined: 06.27.2006

Jun 2 @ 11:42 AM ET

- TouenneTiiTree

viciously feud with himself.

DoubleDown
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Not to point any fingers but Tyson Barrie has looked awful in the blue and white for the Leafs., QC
Joined: 07.28.2006

Jun 2 @ 11:42 AM ET
so the coach sends messages for next year int he conference final?



hmm.... he's not a very good coach.

- dt99999


well this is kind of my point. i have to assume that the players, after everything that they put into this season from September through May, don't give a poop about that stuff in the conference finals. and if bumping Vanek up would have rubbed some players the wrong way, then those are the wrong players. winning should come first.
DoubleDown
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Not to point any fingers but Tyson Barrie has looked awful in the blue and white for the Leafs., QC
Joined: 07.28.2006

Jun 2 @ 11:43 AM ET
I have no clue why he did or didn't play Vanek with DD and Pax again. I do think it's possible that a coach of a relatively young team, who lost their starting goalie and most important player, could decide to send a message through a guy who he knows won't be back on the team next year and is showing very little effort even in the conf final.
I also don't think it would make him a bad coach. The fact that Vanek is supposedly healthy make his performance that much worse.

- habby


this seems like a chicken-egg argument.
habby
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Maybe because he won best defenceman of the year, that's how they get paid these days-Alex Kovalev
Joined: 08.31.2006

Jun 2 @ 11:44 AM ET
well this is kind of my point. i have to assume that the players, after everything that they put into this season from September through May, don't give a poop about that stuff in the conference finals. and if bumping Vanek up would have rubbed some players the wrong way, then those are the wrong players. winning should come first.
- DoubleDown

If it was a message, and I have no clue why he didn't move Vanek up, I don't think that was the message. I think the message was play hard and you'll be rewarded.
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Jun 2 @ 11:44 AM ET
viciously feud with himself.
- WaterBoy


That is what gave it away for me
habby
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Maybe because he won best defenceman of the year, that's how they get paid these days-Alex Kovalev
Joined: 08.31.2006

Jun 2 @ 11:45 AM ET
this seems like a chicken-egg argument.
- DoubleDown

No, it's just speculation. We have no clue why he wasn't played with them again. It is possible that his effort level was a factor.
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Jun 2 @ 11:48 AM ET
Is Engels working on the most epic blog of all time?
3M
Location: Antigua
Joined: 06.30.2009

Jun 2 @ 11:49 AM ET
Is Engels working on the most epic blog of all time?
- Aetherial


Probably still crying it out in a closet somewhere.
stormey
Location: it is Babsy turning a boy into a man - JL0961
Joined: 10.13.2005

Jun 2 @ 11:50 AM ET
so the coach sends messages for next year int he conference final?



hmm.... he's not a very good coach.

- dt99999

Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Jun 2 @ 11:51 AM ET
Probably still crying it out in a closet somewhere.
- 3M


Well if he is bro-hugging it out, then someone needs to tell him that that bro-hug has crossed the line into a man-cuddle.
stormey
Location: it is Babsy turning a boy into a man - JL0961
Joined: 10.13.2005

Jun 2 @ 11:51 AM ET
Is Engels working on the most epic blog of all time?
- Aetherial

Give him a break. He's just finishing last Wednesday's lunch.
-davies-
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A medical emergency involving you.
Joined: 08.05.2013

Jun 2 @ 11:53 AM ET
Give him a break. He's just finishing last Wednesday's lunch.
- stormey



om g
Jean_Perron
Location: Fleurimont, Québec
Joined: 08.03.2012

Jun 2 @ 11:55 AM ET
Reading between the lines, I don't expect Vanek back. Bergevin said it depends on the term and the salary. We all know how important it is for Vanek.
BingoLady
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Ultimate Warrior, NB
Joined: 07.15.2009

Jun 2 @ 11:58 AM ET
Reading between the lines, I don't expect Vanek back. Bergevin said it depends on the term and the salary. We all know how important it is for Vanek.
- Jean_Perron

Bergevin was also satisfied this season with the development of young blueliners Nathan Beaulieu, Jarred Tinordi and Greg Pateryn, the first two playing short stints with the NHL club.

"I think the day they become everyday players with the Canadiens will be sooner rather than later," he said. "Do I want them to play in NHL next season - yes. "I want some internal competition at camp (next season)."

hscesq
Referee
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Our debt is easily solvable considering the assets owned by the province. QP, NY
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jun 2 @ 11:59 AM ET
Reading between the lines, I don't expect Vanek back. Bergevin said it depends on the term and the salary. We all know how important it is for Vanek.
- Jean_Perron

Wait. Let me see if I understand. Vanek is a player looking for a big and long contract. MB is a GM who signs players to such contracts, and says this player could be back, but it depends on the salary and length of the contract?
dt99999
Montreal Canadiens
Location: wow, hope that's sarcasim
Joined: 11.18.2008

Jun 2 @ 12:02 PM ET
Wait. Let me see if I understand. Vanek is a player looking for a big and long contract. MB is a GM who signs players to such contracts, and says this player could be back, but it depends on the salary and length of the contract?
- hscesq


amazing what you learn when you talk to scouts
stormey
Location: it is Babsy turning a boy into a man - JL0961
Joined: 10.13.2005

Jun 2 @ 12:02 PM ET
Wait. Let me see if I understand. Vanek is a player looking for a big and long contract. MB is a GM who signs players to such contracts, and says this player could be back, but it depends on the salary and length of the contract?
- hscesq

He's quite the little between the lines reader.
3M
Location: Antigua
Joined: 06.30.2009

Jun 2 @ 12:03 PM ET
Wait. Let me see if I understand. Vanek is a player looking for a big and long contract. MB is a GM who signs players to such contracts, and says this player could be back, but it depends on the salary and length of the contract?
- hscesq


Don't know why he said that. Doesn't matter if you open the vault, if Vanek doesn't want to be here, he won't be.
stormey
Location: it is Babsy turning a boy into a man - JL0961
Joined: 10.13.2005

Jun 2 @ 12:04 PM ET
Don't know why he said that. Doesn't matter if you open the vault, if Vanek doesn't want to be here, he won't be.
- 3M

ground breaking.
hscesq
Referee
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Our debt is easily solvable considering the assets owned by the province. QP, NY
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jun 2 @ 12:05 PM ET
ground breaking.
- stormey

Jean_Perron
Location: Fleurimont, Québec
Joined: 08.03.2012

Jun 2 @ 12:05 PM ET
Wait. Let me see if I understand. Vanek is a player looking for a big and long contract. MB is a GM who signs players to such contracts, and says this player could be back, but it depends on the salary and length of the contract?
- hscesq


You can go back to hair trimmers if you prefer.
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