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hscesq
Referee
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Our debt is easily solvable considering the assets owned by the province. QP, NY
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jun 2 @ 11:24 AM ET
Im doing what BL does on a regular basis.
- WaterBoy

But I hate BL. You and I have broken bread together.
WaterBoy
Location: Gardez-le votre ANGLAIS, YT
Joined: 06.27.2006

Jun 2 @ 11:24 AM ET
But I hate BL. You and I have broken bread together.
- hscesq

Ok. I will stop.

Since you hate BL, ban him.

And Ban stee just to be on the safe side.


DoubleDown
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Not to point any fingers but Tyson Barrie has looked awful in the blue and white for the Leafs., QC
Joined: 07.28.2006

Jun 2 @ 11:25 AM ET
Or he never showed a reason to be rewarded by playing on the top line?
- habby


whether he deserved it or not isn't the issue. the idea was to generate offence, not to ensure some delicate locker-room equilibrium. in the conference final, you do what you have to do to win. i guess Therrien had his reasons but i for one hope that one of those reasons wasn't that Vanek didn't deserve to play with DD/Pac.
habby
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Maybe because he won best defenceman of the year, that's how they get paid these days-Alex Kovalev
Joined: 08.31.2006

Jun 2 @ 11:25 AM ET
Oh good now let's ask about the coaches contract.

How about asking him about his contract?
BashCH
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The legendary Don Cherry agrees with me..., QC
Joined: 04.27.2010

Jun 2 @ 11:25 AM ET
Ok. I will stop.

Since you hate BL, ban him.

And Ban stee just to be on the safe side.

- WaterBoy


Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jun 2 @ 11:27 AM ET
Oh good now let's ask about the coaches contract.

How about asking him about his contract?

- habby


I must say, these questions were unexpected.
habby
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Maybe because he won best defenceman of the year, that's how they get paid these days-Alex Kovalev
Joined: 08.31.2006

Jun 2 @ 11:28 AM ET
whether he deserved it or not isn't the issue. the idea was to generate offence, not to ensure some delicate locker-room equilibrium. in the conference final, you do what you have to do to win. i guess Therrien had his reasons but i for one hope that one of those reasons wasn't that Vanek didn't deserve to play with DD/Pac.
- DoubleDown

Players sitting on the bench see the same effort we do. Not only do I think it's possible Therrien decided he wasn't going to move Vanek up because he didn't deserve it, I think he also did for the future. By not moving vanek up he was sending a message to the whole team.

Much like with Subban earlier in the season.
habby
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Maybe because he won best defenceman of the year, that's how they get paid these days-Alex Kovalev
Joined: 08.31.2006

Jun 2 @ 11:29 AM ET
I must say, these questions were unexpected.
- Scabeh

They'd be stupid not to asking him once about contracts just to get him on record saying he won't discuss it. By the 4th question they look like idiots.
hscesq
Referee
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Our debt is easily solvable considering the assets owned by the province. QP, NY
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jun 2 @ 11:29 AM ET
Players sitting on the bench see the same effort we do. Not only do I think it's possible Therrien decided he wasn't going to move Vanek up because he didn't deserve it, I think he also did for the future. By not moving vanek up he was sending a message to the whole team.
- habby

The message was:

We are getting knocked out.
dt99999
Montreal Canadiens
Location: wow, hope that's sarcasim
Joined: 11.18.2008

Jun 2 @ 11:32 AM ET
Players sitting on the bench see the same effort we do. Not only do I think it's possible Therrien decided he wasn't going to move Vanek up because he didn't deserve it, I think he also did for the future. By not moving vanek up he was sending a message to the whole team.

Much like with Subban earlier in the season.

- habby



so the coach sends messages for next year int he conference final?



hmm.... he's not a very good coach.
habby
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Maybe because he won best defenceman of the year, that's how they get paid these days-Alex Kovalev
Joined: 08.31.2006

Jun 2 @ 11:32 AM ET
The message was:

We are getting knocked out.

- hscesq

I'm not saying I wouldn't have tried them together by the end, but I can see a lot of different reasons for Therrien not to try them together.

Mtl didn't lose to NY because of coaching.
TouenneTiiTree
Location: #effetjulien
Joined: 05.22.2012

Jun 2 @ 11:32 AM ET
so the coach sends messages for next year int he conference final?



hmm.... he's not a very good coach.

- dt99999


He should've kicked him in the hands. That's what all good coaches do.

BingoLady
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Ultimate Warrior, NB
Joined: 07.15.2009

Jun 2 @ 11:33 AM ET
WBNN
hscesq
Referee
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Our debt is easily solvable considering the assets owned by the province. QP, NY
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jun 2 @ 11:34 AM ET
so the coach sends messages for next year int he conference final?



hmm.... he's not a very good coach.

- dt99999

Voila.
hscesq
Referee
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Our debt is easily solvable considering the assets owned by the province. QP, NY
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jun 2 @ 11:34 AM ET
I'm not saying I wouldn't have tried them together by the end, but I can see a lot of different reasons for Therrien not to try them together.

Mtl didn't lose to NY because of coaching.

- habby

I agree.
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Jun 2 @ 11:34 AM ET
Ok. I will stop.

Since you hate BL, ban him.

And Ban stee just to be on the safe side.

- WaterBoy


I thought YOU were Stee.
hscesq
Referee
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Our debt is easily solvable considering the assets owned by the province. QP, NY
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jun 2 @ 11:35 AM ET
I thought YOU were Stee.
- Aetherial

Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jun 2 @ 11:35 AM ET
I thought YOU were Stee.
- Aetherial


oh poop!
TouenneTiiTree
Location: #effetjulien
Joined: 05.22.2012

Jun 2 @ 11:35 AM ET
15 goals in year one
19 in his 2nd

Looks to me like a guy who could easily be scoring 25-30 a year in his prime. If he stays healthy he's gonna be a really good top 6. I doubt he's hurting your team on the top line.

- habby



Agree...and those 15 goals were in a shortened season.

He's not a "finished product" either...he's still adding elements to his game. I think we are fine with Gallagher as a top 6 winger... If Galchenyuk develops like expected, Gallagher'll be exactly the type of winger that he needs.
dt99999
Montreal Canadiens
Location: wow, hope that's sarcasim
Joined: 11.18.2008

Jun 2 @ 11:36 AM ET
I thought YOU were Stee.
- Aetherial

oh (frank)
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Jun 2 @ 11:36 AM ET
maybe Vanek is the type of player who doesn't put in the effort if he doesn't feel the chemistry there? not sure, and not saying that's excusable. but against NY, they needed to get this guy going and nothing was tried. it was just left at status quo. Therrien did a great job overall but i think this was one area where he didn't get it done.
- DoubleDown


like a prostitute you mean?
BingoLady
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Ultimate Warrior, NB
Joined: 07.15.2009

Jun 2 @ 11:36 AM ET
I thought YOU were Stee.
- Aetherial

Steve Martin
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jun 2 @ 11:37 AM ET
I thought YOU were Stee.
- Aetherial


Oh snap!
WaterBoy
Location: Gardez-le votre ANGLAIS, YT
Joined: 06.27.2006

Jun 2 @ 11:38 AM ET
oh (frank)
- dt99999

Yeah... that's hummm hard to swallow
WaterBoy
Location: Gardez-le votre ANGLAIS, YT
Joined: 06.27.2006

Jun 2 @ 11:39 AM ET
I thought YOU were Stee.
- Aetherial

Stee would indeed be dumb enough to feud with himself.
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