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stormey
Location: it is Babsy turning a boy into a man - JL0961
Joined: 10.13.2005

Jun 2 @ 9:55 AM ET
I just checked and there's actually no rule preventing this.
- dt99999

Yes.


Enjoy first Adam!!!! Or should I say....PAL!
Jean_Perron
Location: Fleurimont, Québec
Joined: 08.03.2012

Jun 2 @ 9:56 AM ET
I'm quite sure he's still got decent value.

Time will tell.

But whatevr.. .if not Plek... I'd still like to see a deal to get Bieksa

- WaterBoy


He does have value.
DoubleDown
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Not to point any fingers but Tyson Barrie has looked awful in the blue and white for the Leafs., QC
Joined: 07.28.2006

Jun 2 @ 9:56 AM ET
I'm quite sure he's still got decent value.

Time will tell.

But whatevr.. .if not Plek... I'd still like to see a deal to get Bieksa

- WaterBoy


ya i would love Bieksa to replace Markov. but i think he'd be expensive to acquire. Bergevin needs to decide if this run was a fluke or if it was the initial opening of Montreal's Price/Subban-anchored window. so does he make improvements looking short term or long term? the one thing that i think no one wants to see, is this team come back intact next year, minus Vanek. i think spending our available $$ on re-signing Markov and Gionta would be a huge mistake.
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jun 2 @ 9:57 AM ET
ya i would love Bieksa to replace Markov. but i think he'd be expensive to acquire. Bergevin needs to decide if this run was a fluke or if it was the initial opening of Montreal's Price/Subban-anchored window. so does he make improvements looking short term or long term? the one thing that i think no one wants to see, is this team come back intact next year, minus Vanek. i think spending our available $$ on re-signing Markov and Gionta would be a huge mistake.
- DoubleDown


Both.

He'll be looking at both.
DoubleDown
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Not to point any fingers but Tyson Barrie has looked awful in the blue and white for the Leafs., QC
Joined: 07.28.2006

Jun 2 @ 9:57 AM ET
He does have value. Replace Handzus by Plekanec on the Hawks and they'd probably be in the final right now.
- Jean_Perron


right because Plekanec came up so big against NY.
WaterBoy
Location: Gardez-le votre ANGLAIS, YT
Joined: 06.27.2006

Jun 2 @ 9:57 AM ET
he might but it would be at the deadline not in summer


edit: and at the deadline he will be of more use to the habs.




he will die here or become ufa

- dt99999

DoubleDown
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Not to point any fingers but Tyson Barrie has looked awful in the blue and white for the Leafs., QC
Joined: 07.28.2006

Jun 2 @ 9:57 AM ET
Both.

He'll be looking at both.

- Pecafan Fan


no, he'll say he's looking at both. truth is, it's one or the other.
Jean_Perron
Location: Fleurimont, Québec
Joined: 08.03.2012

Jun 2 @ 9:57 AM ET
ya i would love Bieksa to replace Markov. but i think he'd be expensive to acquire. Bergevin needs to decide if this run was a fluke or if it was the initial opening of Montreal's Price/Subban-anchored window. so does he make improvements looking short term or long term? the one thing that i think no one wants to see, is this team come back intact next year, minus Vanek. i think spending our available $$ on re-signing Markov and Gionta would be a huge mistake.
- DoubleDown


He needs to stay on the same path and build a yearly contender, not lose assets by overpaying in trades. That is done through the draft and development.
pete26
Montreal Canadiens
Location: (HE, HIM, HIS), ON
Joined: 11.20.2008

Jun 2 @ 9:58 AM ET
probably everyone is happy.

heck I'm pretty happy.

- dt99999


I thought I picked Habs and LA in 6?

stormey
Location: it is Babsy turning a boy into a man - JL0961
Joined: 10.13.2005

Jun 2 @ 9:58 AM ET
He does have value.
- Jean_Perron

Yes....the value of a pretty good third line center.
dt99999
Montreal Canadiens
Location: wow, hope that's sarcasim
Joined: 11.18.2008

Jun 2 @ 9:58 AM ET
I thought I picked Habs and LA in 6?
- pete26


did you? I might have missed it.


I'll give you LA in 7 and NYR in 6 to make up for it.
WaterBoy
Location: Gardez-le votre ANGLAIS, YT
Joined: 06.27.2006

Jun 2 @ 9:59 AM ET
ya i would love Bieksa to replace Markov. but i think he'd be expensive to acquire. Bergevin needs to decide if this run was a fluke or if it was the initial opening of Montreal's Price/Subban-anchored window. so does he make improvements looking short term or long term? the one thing that i think no one wants to see, is this team come back intact next year, minus Vanek. i think spending our available $$ on re-signing Markov and Gionta would be a huge mistake.
- DoubleDown

Markov and Gio are weird cases.

Markov can still play good minutes... maybe not top minutes and he would need a better partner to remain efficient.

Gio ? at the right price he could still help... but it kinda makes sense to swap him for a bigger shutdown guy. Clearly if he stays his role will be on the 3rd line.
DoubleDown
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Not to point any fingers but Tyson Barrie has looked awful in the blue and white for the Leafs., QC
Joined: 07.28.2006

Jun 2 @ 9:59 AM ET
He needs to stay on the same path and build a yearly contender, not lose assets by overpaying in trades. That is done through the draft and development.
- Jean_Perron


i know what you mean, for sure. but he gave up 2 valuable pieces in the Vanek deal. and anyway, i'm not so much talking about high profile trades. more like UFA signings and trading for veterans--not front line vets but mid tier guys.
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jun 2 @ 10:00 AM ET
no, he'll say he's looking at both. truth is, it's one or the other.
- DoubleDown


Why?

It has to be both. Otherwise, you end up like the Canucks.
WaterBoy
Location: Gardez-le votre ANGLAIS, YT
Joined: 06.27.2006

Jun 2 @ 10:00 AM ET
did you? I might have missed it.


I'll give you LA in 7 and NYR in 6 to make up for it.

- dt99999

I picked NYR in 6 and LA in 7.

I end up with zero points.

Must have confused my picks with someone elses.
dt99999
Montreal Canadiens
Location: wow, hope that's sarcasim
Joined: 11.18.2008

Jun 2 @ 10:01 AM ET
I picked NYR in 6 and LA in 7.

I end up with zero points.

Must have confused my picks with someone elses.

- WaterBoy


possible, I usually mistake your posts and PMs for stee's
pete26
Montreal Canadiens
Location: (HE, HIM, HIS), ON
Joined: 11.20.2008

Jun 2 @ 10:01 AM ET
did you? I might have missed it.


I'll give you LA in 7 and NYR in 6 to make up for it.

- dt99999


Nice!

Then I will sign my points over to you.

GO DAN!!

Also, caught 2 decent lakers last night.
WaterBoy
Location: Gardez-le votre ANGLAIS, YT
Joined: 06.27.2006

Jun 2 @ 10:02 AM ET
i know what you mean, for sure. but he gave up 2 valuable pieces in the Vanek deal. and anyway, i'm not so much talking about high profile trades. more like UFA signings and trading for veterans--not front line vets but mid tier guys.
- DoubleDown

He's gotta make some room on the blue line for the Kids.Im quite sure that will be done by trade.
DoubleDown
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Not to point any fingers but Tyson Barrie has looked awful in the blue and white for the Leafs., QC
Joined: 07.28.2006

Jun 2 @ 10:02 AM ET
Markov and Gio are weird cases.

Markov can still play good minutes... maybe not top minutes and he would need a better partner to remain efficient.

Gio ? at the right price he could still help... but it kinda makes sense to swap him for a bigger shutdown guy. Clearly if he stays his role will be on the 3rd line.

- WaterBoy


problem with our defence is we've got Gorges and Emelin eating $8 million. that's too much for what amounts to 2 defencemen who are ideally suited to 3rd pairing minutes. so then you sign Markov, he's going to have to play big minutes. if you can trade one of Emelin/Gorges, sure, sign Markov.
WaterBoy
Location: Gardez-le votre ANGLAIS, YT
Joined: 06.27.2006

Jun 2 @ 10:03 AM ET
possible, I usually mistake your posts and PMs for stee's
- dt99999

Good reflex.
WaterBoy
Location: Gardez-le votre ANGLAIS, YT
Joined: 06.27.2006

Jun 2 @ 10:03 AM ET
Nice!

Then I will sign my points over to you.

GO DAN!!

Also, caught 2 decent lakers last night.

- pete26

Dude, I need all the points in the world rightnow.
DoubleDown
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Not to point any fingers but Tyson Barrie has looked awful in the blue and white for the Leafs., QC
Joined: 07.28.2006

Jun 2 @ 10:04 AM ET
Why?

It has to be both. Otherwise, you end up like the Canucks.

- Pecafan Fan


i think for it to be both, you need a strong, strong stable of prospects constantly challenging for jobs or available to trade. Montreal doesn't have that.
WaterBoy
Location: Gardez-le votre ANGLAIS, YT
Joined: 06.27.2006

Jun 2 @ 10:04 AM ET
problem with our defence is we've got Gorges and Emelin eating $8 million. that's too much for what amounts to 2 defencemen who are ideally suited to 3rd pairing minutes. so then you sign Markov, he's going to have to play big minutes. if you can trade one of Emelin/Gorges, sure, sign Markov.
- DoubleDown

Yup.

Get a Right handed D to play behind PK and in front of Weaver.
stormey
Location: it is Babsy turning a boy into a man - JL0961
Joined: 10.13.2005

Jun 2 @ 10:06 AM ET
Why?

It has to be both. Otherwise, you end up like the Canucks.

- Pecafan Fan

Well then maybe the Habs shouldn't have gone on such a useless playoff run, costing them valuable draft positions.

idiots.

nice way to build for the future.
Fredobbface
Calgary Flames
Location: 3 years 5-4-3-3 For a total of 14.5M and a cap hit of 2M, QC
Joined: 07.31.2008

Jun 2 @ 10:06 AM ET
problem with our defence is we've got Gorges and Emelin eating $8 million. that's too much for what amounts to 2 defencemen who are ideally suited to 3rd pairing minutes. so then you sign Markov, he's going to have to play big minutes. if you can trade one of Emelin/Gorges, sure, sign Markov.
- DoubleDown

Gorges idealy.

Emelin makes mistakes but he's physical at least.
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