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Pixote Andolini
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.23.2007

May 26 @ 10:18 PM ET
Kings-Rangers cup final? I honestly can't think of a worse possible final for a Flyers fan than those two teams.
- JAKEw1234

Starting to look that way.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

May 26 @ 10:18 PM ET
That was an overpay before the "throw in" of the PTBNL now 21 year old Domingo Santana, a RH hitting RF with similar numbers to Singleton

In AAA this year:

.294/.366/.510/.876.

Cosart has been struggling with his control in the bigs, but he's still a puppy.

- jstross


Just another of Amaro's questionable deals.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

May 26 @ 10:19 PM ET
Sounds about right, but Lombardi may want to buy some UFA years also like he did with Voynov. He signed him to a 6 year with a cap hit of $4.16 million/yr. Muzzin won't be an RFA until after next season.
- ravishingone

Oh I was living my life thinking Muzzin's contract ran out this season. Guess I was wrong.

(frank) it. Offer sheet him anyway
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

May 26 @ 10:20 PM ET
Just another of Amaro's horrendous deals.
- Jsaquella


I swear he's throwing the team
Pixote Andolini
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.23.2007

May 26 @ 10:21 PM ET
Just another of Amaro's questionable deals.
- Jsaquella

Amaro. The worst.
jstross
Joined: 06.25.2012

May 26 @ 10:21 PM ET
Just another of Amaro's questionable deals.
- Jsaquella


I remember being pissed that Santana was the PTBNL. Way too much upside to throw in with a top 40 and another top 100 prospect. RAJ really does need to go, but I honestly don't think it's happening.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

May 26 @ 10:21 PM ET
I'm fine with the draft & develop part, it's the rest of what has to be done I'm interested seeing what happens.
- ob18


The key is the patience of ownership. The trouble there is, that the team as it is now has pieces that can be the foundation of a really good team. I'm fine with drafting & developing, but I really don't want to piss away anymore of Giroux's prime.
ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

May 26 @ 10:22 PM ET
Next summer is where the Kings could face issues.

Richards has remained a solid player, but is a solid depth guy worth a $5.7mm cap for the next 6 years? It's really only interesting because this is the final summer teams can use a CBO and avoid a cap penalty on a guy.

- Jsaquella


Exactly and you wonder how much the cap will go up after this season's significant jump. I would figure Gaborik is going to get at least $5.5 million on a multi-year deal.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

May 26 @ 10:26 PM ET
I swear he's throwing the team
- Giroux_Is_God


I just think he really doesn't get it. You give up Cosart, Singleton & Santana for Pence, who is scheduled to be a free agent(to be fair with arbitration rights) then trade him one year later, freshly signed for a guy they let walk and two low minors guys, one of whom seems to have any kind of real MLB future.

It's just baffling how he can turn $1mm in real estate into $25 cash
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: dicky seamus, PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

May 26 @ 10:27 PM ET
Kings-Rangers cup final? I honestly can't think of a worse possible final for a Flyers fan than those two teams.
- JAKEw1234


Yup. Kick in the nuts, knee to the face, followed by another kick in the nuts.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

May 26 @ 10:27 PM ET
Exactly and you wonder how much the cap will go up after this season's significant jump. I would figure Gaborik is going to get at least $5.5 million on a multi-year deal.
- ravishingone


That's the key, even with significant cap increases, it might be troublesome. If the cap increases, guys will demand a higher and higher cap hit.

Basically it weighs Richards and his expected play vs the value of having a third (or sometimes 4th) line center making near a $6mm cap hit for an extended period.

EDIT: Also, you might be able to keep Jarrett Stoll for under $4mm, and he's a very solid third line C, dominant at the dot, good defense, excellent slap shot.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

May 26 @ 10:29 PM ET
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: dicky seamus, PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

May 26 @ 10:30 PM ET
I just think he really doesn't get it. You give up Cosart, Singleton & Santana for Pence, who is scheduled to be a free agent(to be fair with arbitration rights) then trade him one year later, freshly signed for a guy they let walk and two low minors guys, one of whom seems to have any kind of real MLB future.

It's just baffling how he can turn $1mm in real estate into $25 cash

- Jsaquella


...And retain his job.

A walking superfund site creator.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

May 26 @ 10:31 PM ET
...And retain his job.

A walking superfund site creator.

- wolfhounds


It's the gang of 11. They don't get involved.

Why the Hell didn'tt they hire Mike Arbuckle when Gillick retired?
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

May 26 @ 10:32 PM ET
Oh poop that was a sweet backhander by Saad
jstross
Joined: 06.25.2012

May 26 @ 10:32 PM ET
Need a great comeback to make for an exciting end to a great Memorial Day!
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

May 26 @ 10:33 PM ET
Need a great comeback to make for an exciting end to a great Memorial Day!
- jstross

ew no
rockychocbill
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Off Season
Joined: 07.04.2008

May 26 @ 10:33 PM ET
Great blog post Bill! Always liked Zezel.
jstross
Joined: 06.25.2012

May 26 @ 10:35 PM ET
ew no
- Giroux_Is_God


You don't want some exciting hockey?
ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

May 26 @ 10:36 PM ET
It's the gang of 11. They don't get involved.

Why the Hell didn'tt they hire Mike Arbuckle when Gillick retired?

- Jsaquella


RAJ may survive until after next season, but all of those blue empty seats will get that ownership group to react eventually. They should trade Utley and Lee at the deadline, but RAJ evaluating prospects coming back.


The Sixers are closer to being a contending team, then the Phillies, amazing.
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: dicky seamus, PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

May 26 @ 10:38 PM ET
Game Over. Evil Empire 1 loses to Evil Empire 2.

Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

May 26 @ 10:40 PM ET
You don't want some exciting hockey?
- jstross

The Kings crushing the Hawks is exciting enough for me, thanks
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

May 26 @ 10:40 PM ET
RAJ may survive until after next season, but all of those blue empty seats will get that ownership group to react eventually. They should trade Utley and Lee at the deadline, but RAJ evaluating prospects coming back.


The Sixers are closer to being a contending team, then the Phillies, amazing.

- ravishingone


Yeah, I really don't want Amaro running the yard sale this team needs. They'll trade Utley, Lee, Ruiz & whomever for the next generation's Steve Jeltz, Ricky Otero & Jeff Stone
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: dicky seamus, PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

May 26 @ 10:43 PM ET
Yeah, I really don't want Amaro running the yard sale this team needs. They'll trade Utley, Lee, Ruiz & whomever for the next generation's Steve Jeltz, Ricky Otero & Jeff Stone
- Jsaquella


Trading Utley will be like when we traded Gagne... Not a good day.
rockychocbill
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Off Season
Joined: 07.04.2008

May 26 @ 10:44 PM ET
Hawks can still skate. Who knew. Where the heck has this been the last 2.5 games?
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