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Cape Breton Bruins
Boston Bruins
Location: long friend time friend, AB
Joined: 11.26.2008

May 25 @ 12:29 PM ET
Losing Marchand for nothing makes their Bottom 6 very meh. Can't do it. I'm curious to see if Chia/Marchand seriously want to ditch the agitator thing and just play hockey ir not. Marchand could be traded, but for now I will assume he stays, and if he is traded it will be for top 6 talent.

Lucic - Krejci - Iginla
Marchy - Bergy - Smith
Loui - Soderberg - Ahl'er
Paille - Campbell - Ahl'er

Chara - Hamilton
Seids - Boychuk
Miller/Mcquaid - Krug

Those Ahl spots could be filled by any of Koko, Spooner, Fraser, camera, lindblad, griffith or even a FA. Too early to tell

- Shaundre93

I wouldn't trade Marchand for nothing. The current NHL standard is maximizing assets by rendering them long term assets through a cycle of filtering in younger, cheaper talent continuously to deal with maintaining a group of guys the team designates as its core. And then surrounding them with competent, interchangeable pieces that come and go over the course of a few years after pricing them out of their current role through pay raises or detrimental play.

I believe personally that Marchand fits this description. Chicago has been masterful at this art over the past five years, and I believe the Bruins subscribe to this philosophy as well. Kessel for picks that became Seguin, Hamilton and Knight. Seguin and Peverley for Erikkson, Smith, Fraser and Morrow. Turning one or two assets into many while maintain a core of Krejci, Bergeron, Lucic, Chara, Rask ect. and winning by committee.

I would accept two well scouted prospects for Marchand and allow them time to develop while Spooner, Fraser, Koko.... are allowed a chance at the NHL. A lot of people may think the same about Eriksson but I am not keen on giving up on him after one injury filled, transition season. I believe he can offer us everything Marchand goes both offensively and through the PK without the drawbacks of taking stupid, untimely penalties as well as deserved reputation calls.
Shaundre93
Boston Bruins
Location: Standish, ME
Joined: 07.18.2013

May 25 @ 1:19 PM ET
I'm not even close to giving up on Eriksson... Its just an unreal commodity to have a 3rd line with two 2nd line quality guys (Eriksson/Soderberg). The Bruins are still in win now mode. They have an abundance of almost ready prospects... It doesn't make sense right now to move marchy unless there's top 6 talent coming back. I understand he has his quirks, but moving him for future pieces would significantly hamper this team. Won't happen. I am open to swapping Loui and Marchy in the lineup if the chemistry isn't affected too much
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

May 25 @ 1:35 PM ET
I don't dislike OR like Milan Lucic, but he is very overvalued commodity. You, for instance, would trade me your best players for him. I would take your offer, is all I'm saying, and I think it would improve the Boston Bruins in doing so. I'm not denying he has some value, I just think it's too high and they should take advantage of it.
- JLO961

true power forwards that can score, punish you physically, pressure defenders, get under the opponents skin and deal with your toughest guys when retribution comes are valued so high because theyre so rare.

backes and lucic. that seriously might be it. At least in terms of 'beasts' that can also be true top liners.


the oilers especially would be a far better team with lucic than they currently are with a bunch of their redundant forwards.
hall and the nuge are the only 2 that wouldn't be considered for him.

it's all moot, because chiarelli wont trade him. he understands how valuable lucic is to that franchise.
Cape Breton Bruins
Boston Bruins
Location: long friend time friend, AB
Joined: 11.26.2008

May 25 @ 2:36 PM ET
true power forwards that can score, punish you physically, pressure defenders, get under the opponents skin and deal with your toughest guys when retribution comes are valued so high because theyre so rare.

backes and lucic. that seriously might be it. At least in terms of 'beasts' that can also be true top liners.


the oilers especially would be a far better team with lucic than they currently are with a bunch of their redundant forwards.
hall and the nuge are the only 2 that wouldn't be considered for him.

it's all moot, because chiarelli wont trade him. he understands how valuable lucic is to that franchise.

- hugefemale dog77


Lucic typically becomes one of our better players during the playoffs as well. He and Krejci. When they are not going....well you see what happens.
Cape Breton Bruins
Boston Bruins
Location: long friend time friend, AB
Joined: 11.26.2008

May 25 @ 2:37 PM ET
I'm not even close to giving up on Eriksson... Its just an unreal commodity to have a 3rd line with two 2nd line quality guys (Eriksson/Soderberg). The Bruins are still in win now mode. They have an abundance of almost ready prospects... It doesn't make sense right now to move marchy unless there's top 6 talent coming back. I understand he has his quirks, but moving him for future pieces would significantly hamper this team. Won't happen. I am open to swapping Loui and Marchy in the lineup if the chemistry isn't affected too much
- Shaundre93

That's fair but someone will be a cap causulty. Kelly? Boychuk? McQuaid?
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

May 25 @ 2:46 PM ET
That's fair but someone will be a cap causulty. Kelly? Boychuk? McQuaid?
- Cape Breton Bruins

those are the three that come to mind first.
prob be pretty silly to deal boychuk when you could deal the other two and add it up to comparable salary.
mcquaid+ Kelly = boychuk

that said; Kelly and boychuk would be a true dump and ud probably only get middling prospects/picks back. while boychuk could garner a bluchechipper.

u think about which package ud rather part with and call me.
im willing to make a deal
Shaundre93
Boston Bruins
Location: Standish, ME
Joined: 07.18.2013

May 25 @ 4:12 PM ET
I'm surprised anyones that interested in Kelly to be honest. He's a must go for me. Whether he's bought out or traded. Very solid in his role, but B's can't take that cap anymore. I'd prefer to keep Mcquaid until we are 100% certain Miller can take that role full time, but if $$ is an issue he can be dealt. Idk what Mcquaids value is though. I always thought of him as a high caliber 3rd pairing D man who doesn't have quite enough puck skills to crack the top 4, but others seem to think more highly of him... I'll be happy with just about any return for him. He will be missed. I don't see why we would trade Boychuk. He's been a rock on the 2nd pair for years now and has a pretty favorable cap hit considering the work he does. I personally want to see Claude give Seidenberg-Boychuk the 1st pairing assignments. I think those two together could handle it just fine and Chara would be much fresher come playoffs
Shaundre93
Boston Bruins
Location: Standish, ME
Joined: 07.18.2013

May 25 @ 4:25 PM ET
those are the three that come to mind first.
prob be pretty silly to deal boychuk when you could deal the other two and add it up to comparable salary.
mcquaid+ Kelly = boychuk

that said; Kelly and boychuk would be a true dump and ud probably only get middling prospects/picks back. while boychuk could garner a bluchechipper.

u think about which package ud rather part with and call me.
im willing to make a deal

- hugefemale dog77


Mark Arcobello and a mid round pick for Mcquaid and Kelly?
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

May 25 @ 4:32 PM ET
Mark Arcobello and a mid round pick for Mcquaid and Kelly?
- Shaundre93

yes.
good offer

I think this deal makes sense from both sides.
Phantom6612
Boston Bruins
Joined: 11.23.2010

May 25 @ 4:46 PM ET
Well, the organization has the next 12 months to ponder that. I don't think you need to overhaul the team. It's not like this is a trend, it was a year they failed to rise to the occasion and the team that played better in the end won. I wouldn't change anything significant on this roster. Perhaps reinvent the 4th line, add a different defender, maybe go as far as finding a different player than Iginla in the top 6; but that's it. Team is too good to look at this as a trending failure. It just wasn't the year, and you gear for next year. End of story.
- Viktory


I do think it is a trend that they under-perform in the playoffs, they've been that way pretty much every season.

But I agree that they don't need to overhaul the team, they're too good. Might need some tweaks and do a better job of finding that extra gear in the playoffs, but still a good team.
gforce
Boston Bruins
Location: People's Republic
Joined: 11.18.2007

May 25 @ 4:58 PM ET
Uh, what??
Shaundre93
Boston Bruins
Location: Standish, ME
Joined: 07.18.2013

May 26 @ 10:14 AM ET
I do think it is a trend that they under-perform in the playoffs, they've been that way pretty much every season.

But I agree that they don't need to overhaul the team, they're too good. Might need some tweaks and do a better job of finding that extra gear in the playoffs, but still a good team.

- Phantom6612


If you think its a "trend" that the Bruins under perform in the playoffs then thank your lucky stars you're not a fan of any other team in the NHL (except maybe Chicago and LA).
habfanforever
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 09.16.2005

May 26 @ 11:07 AM ET
Failure? Yes, in the way they played. If the Bruins would have stuck to hockey, they could have easily beat the Habs in 4 or 5. They didn't see that goonery wouldn't intimidate the Habs yet continued to flog that same dead horse. As a Habs fan facing the reality of a loss to the Rangers in this ECF I can honestly say that the only team in the East that is good enough to win the cup is the Bruins. They just need to change their approach to the game. Oh, and lose Marchand, he's a liability more than he is an asset.
77emac77
Boston Bruins
Location: Duct tape cant fix stupid but it can muffle the sound, MA
Joined: 04.22.2010

May 27 @ 7:22 AM ET
Failure? Yes, in the way they played. If the Bruins would have stuck to hockey, they could have easily beat the Habs in 4 or 5. They didn't see that goonery wouldn't intimidate the Habs yet continued to flog that same dead horse. As a Habs fan facing the reality of a loss to the Rangers in this ECF I can honestly say that the only team in the East that is good enough to win the cup is the Bruins. They just need to change their approach to the game. Oh, and lose Marchand, he's a liability more than he is an asset.
- habfanforever


I said it before, Bruins thought they would win, Habs Wanted to win. They came out so flat the last two games they never had a chance. Also, beating the Bruins was the Habs biggest goal, thats why they are going to lose tonight, they already won the most important game in their eyes.
glove_was_stuck
Boston Bruins
Location: *flush*, MA
Joined: 04.27.2011

May 27 @ 9:24 AM ET
Complete and total failure. With the talent up and down the roster, and falling short in the finals last year, this expectation on this team was cup or bust.

glove_was_stuck
Boston Bruins
Location: *flush*, MA
Joined: 04.27.2011

May 27 @ 9:27 AM ET
That's fair but someone will be a cap casualty. Kelly? Boychuk? McQuaid?
- Cape Breton Bruins


I think Kelly and McQauid become the cap casualties. You won't get much for them but they're easy salary dumps.

What is this trade Boychuck nonsense? Please pass the weed...
JIwasinskiJr
Boston Bruins
Location: Ludlow, MA
Joined: 02.09.2011

May 27 @ 4:15 PM ET
I said it before, Bruins thought they would win, Habs Wanted to win. They came out so flat the last two games they never had a chance. Also, beating the Bruins was the Habs biggest goal, thats why they are going to lose tonight, they already won the most important game in their eyes.
- 77emac77


It is funny because I looked at the Habs winning this year and how beating the Bruins was there Super Bowl and it is oddly familiar to how the NY Jets always aim at beating the Pats.

They get motivated to win against there rival and play above themselves and then.......blah.....

Stupid Habs and Jets.
Dubs360
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 04.05.2014

May 28 @ 5:01 PM ET
#3 of the blue and white would look good in Boston. I'm not being sarcastic at all either. Put him on the second pair, that would be cool to see. Even though it's Boston and Frank Boston.
Rayven
Boston Bruins
Location: The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist.
Joined: 07.21.2009

May 29 @ 8:03 PM ET
Ty Anderson: A success or a failure?
- tyanderson


FAIL !
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