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Bannedforbros
New York Rangers
Location: Little place called non of yo , MN
Joined: 04.07.2012

May 24 @ 7:28 AM ET
What du monde de Canadiens are going to discover very quickly is that the Ranger are mentally tough and have already shown an ability to rally around a teammate. I think the Rangers get motivated and play with much more emotion. No need for the Rangers to manufacture it like the Habs did. I think the Rangers win going away tomorrow.
- Blueshirts4ever

You're correct, the obvious incident that brought them together was the passing of Mrs. St. Louis, this will only strengthen them more, I believe the mantra surrounding Boston was don't poke the bear, they may have poked one too many
RickJ
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Burlington, ON
Joined: 01.12.2010

May 24 @ 7:30 AM ET
So Larry Brooks reports today Brad Richards was told on the ice that the Prust/Stepan hit was a "clean hit".

The officials didn't miss it at all.

- jimbro83


It was a Matt Cooke type of hit, the point of contact just slightly lower than what Cooke usually aims for.
Bannedforbros
New York Rangers
Location: Little place called non of yo , MN
Joined: 04.07.2012

May 24 @ 7:32 AM ET
It's unfortunate because Carbomb played very well in the playoff games he dressed for that I saw.

But his reputation precedes him and he isn't going to get any breaks from any officials after he went nuts on them when playing for the Flyers in that playoff series vs Boston and got a 2 game suspension.

- RickJ

He's made his bed in the NHL and doesn't deserve a break, that's what should have motivated his decision to react, it's unfortunate especially with the options to replace him, Stepan and Brass growing thin, I like Miller but Fast is not a player I would have confidence in playing, dressing Diaz as a forward and having him available for the PP might be a better option
Bannedforbros
New York Rangers
Location: Little place called non of yo , MN
Joined: 04.07.2012

May 24 @ 7:59 AM ET
According to capgeek this is the only other suspension for "interference", Perry received 4 games with just like Prust 1 previous suspension, principle point of contact was also not the head, consistency is lacking

jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

May 24 @ 8:10 AM ET
According to capgeek this is the only other suspension for "interference", Perry received 4 games with just like Prust 1 previous suspension, principle point of contact was also not the head, consistency is lacking


- Bannedforbros


Prust hit was worse, no contest
TomTT
Joined: 05.21.2011

May 24 @ 8:33 AM ET
we're going to be discussing this for years
- DoubleDown


Blind people will. People who have eyes and can watch replays will see Emelins stick firmly across Kreiders legs, causing him to lose his edge.
RangerFan1110
New York Rangers
Location: Orlando, FL
Joined: 01.30.2012

May 24 @ 9:27 AM ET
Its amazing ALL 3 of the blind mice were looking at the hit!!! Not one of them turned away but saw the hit and NO CALL? Typical Betman hockey, this sport is becoming more and more like boxing and horse racing the FIX is in!!!
BobbySchmautz
New York Rangers
Location: Brooklyn, NY
Joined: 08.09.2011

May 24 @ 9:35 AM ET
Here's what the Rangers need to take away from this last game:

First, the Canadiens D is starting to wear out. Therrien has been shortening his bench as opposed to rolling four and three like AV. Some of his best guys look like they are starting to tire. If the Rangers play with the puck and continue to pressure the D with their speed and forecheck the Rangers should be in good shape.

Also, Tokarski was solid but allowed a ton of rebounds. He played the butterfly and took away the bottom part of the net but I didn't think he moved well within his crease. He made some good saves but there are holes their.

I think CK is going to be a stud Sunday. I also think the vets like St. Louis and Richie are going to have good games. I anticipate better execution offensively and a couple more goals.

Call me an optimist, I'd rather be that than a negative nelly. That's just what I think though.

- gkmkiller



Well said -I expect pretty much the same. Habs D was looking
Pretty shaky and susceptible. They do have some speedy and skilled
Forwards but our D can do a good job containing them. McD just
Smothered Gallagher on several occaisions. Looked like a man vs a
Boy the way he caught him on a partial breakaway.
The rags controlled most of game 3 -just didnt shoot over Tokarski;
MSL -please! How many juicy shots from the right side did he fail
To bury?
They look like they are in a good groove and will win if they stay there;
Not likely to be so many ridiculous bounce goals again.
They just look to be the superior team. Hope the possible loss of Step
Is not a deal breaker though.
DJ Lance Rock
Florida Panthers
Location: Troll Killer
Joined: 11.09.2009

May 24 @ 9:45 AM ET
Its amazing ALL 3 of the blind mice were looking at the hit!!! Not one of them turned away but saw the hit and NO CALL? Typical Betman hockey, this sport is becoming more and more like boxing and horse racing the FIX is in!!!
- RangerFan1110

Apparently the ref did see the hit & deemed it a clean hit. But the bigger question like Jan commented on in his post yesterday is, if its a suspension but not a penalty on the ice, doesn't that make the officials responsible for some answers? Can't be too good officiating to have such a catch 22 as this happen.
GStone
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 04.17.2012

May 24 @ 9:49 AM ET
Apparently the ref did see the hit & deemed it a clean hit. But the bigger question like Jan commented on in his post yesterday is, if its a suspension but not a penalty on the ice, doesn't that make the officials responsible for some answers? Can't be too good officiating to have such a catch 22 as this happen.
- DJ Lance Rock

Been asking that question for years. Where's the accountability?
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

May 24 @ 9:56 AM ET
Apparently the ref did see the hit & deemed it a clean hit. But the bigger question like Jan commented on in his post yesterday is, if its a suspension but not a penalty on the ice, doesn't that make the officials responsible for some answers? Can't be too good officiating to have such a catch 22 as this happen.
- DJ Lance Rock


Posted the same time you did on the main blog, to that genius who compared Kreider as sliding into 2nd to break up a double play, and being dirty. Cant believe people actually would think that. It takes a special kind of stupid.
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

May 24 @ 9:58 AM ET
Prust hit was worse, no contest
- jimbro83

The Refs in that video? #43 Jean Herbet and...... none other than #25 Marc Joannette.
B2B76
New York Rangers
Location: "I got mouths to feed", NY
Joined: 08.14.2008

May 24 @ 9:59 AM ET
Posted the same time you did on the main blog, to that genius who compared Kreider as sliding into 2nd to break up a double play, and being dirty. Cant believe people actually would think that. It takes a special kind of stupid.
- mdw7413

Holy Smoke the Krieder stuff still being whined about by some people, amazing the actually sick stupid minds that are allowed to wonder around out there in everyday life.
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

May 24 @ 10:00 AM ET
This is what the line could look like tomorrow

Hags-BRich-MSL
Kreids-Millz-Nash
Benny-Dom-Zuccs
Fast-Boyle-DD

B2B76
New York Rangers
Location: "I got mouths to feed", NY
Joined: 08.14.2008

May 24 @ 10:00 AM ET
The Refs in that video? #43 Jean Herbet and...... none other than #25 Marc Joannette.
- tomburton99

Really? These guys are the worst. Like Lance said above, how are these guys not accountable for blowing a call that resulted in a suspension? It's a great question that Bettman should personally have to answer.
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

May 24 @ 10:02 AM ET
Holy Smoke the Krieder stuff still being whined about by some people, amazing the actually sick stupid minds that are allowed to wonder around out there in everyday life.
- B2B76


Hey Brian, just saw your response on the main blog. I'm with you, I wish we could just talk about hockey, but that one post was just so ridiculous I just had to respond.
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

May 24 @ 10:05 AM ET
Really? These guys are the worst. Like Lance said above, how are these guys not accountable for blowing a call that resulted in a suspension? It's a great question that Bettman should personally have to answer.
- B2B76

Joannette didn't make the call. The Herbet made the call. So it seems like you can't hook while Joannette is officiating, but gladiator type violence is acceptable.
B2B76
New York Rangers
Location: "I got mouths to feed", NY
Joined: 08.14.2008

May 24 @ 10:11 AM ET
Hey Brian, just saw your response on the main blog. I'm with you, I wish we could just talk about hockey, but that one post was just so ridiculous I just had to respond.
- mdw7413

Its all good, it is amazing how much more controversy & bad blood is there now with these 2 teams where I thought that would be the case much more in the previous series with those opponents. 1st game with Rangers/Habs is gonna be a war next yr.
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

May 24 @ 10:14 AM ET
Its all good, it is amazing how much more controversy & bad blood is there now with these 2 teams where I thought that would be the case much more in the previous series with those opponents. 1st game with Rangers/Habs is gonna be a war next yr.
- B2B76


Was saying the same thing yesterday. Never can have to many rivals.
hogweed
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.01.2013

May 24 @ 10:16 AM ET
i know nobody here wants to hear this but the rangers get to play right up against the edge and it is a huge benefit for them. they had 2 minor penalties against them last game and i counted many calls that should have been made. on the stepan hit prust is coming from an angle in front of him where stepan should see him (his head is up, btw); with all the talk about players protecting themselves on plays close to the wall, i've seen many players avoid that kind of hit by ducking or stopping. maybe prust expects him to shoulder up and engage in a solid open-ice check? i think it sucks when guys get hurt, and i hope stepan is back, but it is a physical game that your team is allowed to play VERY physically much of the time. to their benefit. mtl had 10 sog thru 2 periods and it isn't because they aren't talented
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

May 24 @ 10:20 AM ET
i know nobody here wants to hear this but the rangers get to play right up against the edge and it is a huge benefit for them. they had 2 minor penalties against them last game and i counted many calls that should have been made. on the stepan hit prust is coming from an angle in front of him where stepan should see him (his head is up, btw); with all the talk about players protecting themselves on plays close to the wall, i've seen many players avoid that kind of hit by ducking or stopping. maybe prust expects him to shoulder up and engage in a solid open-ice check? i think it sucks when guys get hurt, and i hope stepan is back, but it is a physical game that your team is allowed to play VERY physically much of the time. to their benefit. mtl had 10 sog thru 2 periods and it isn't because they aren't talented
- hogweed


Calls are missed both ways, I have no problem with that, for either side. PK looked like Hacksaw Jim Duggan swinging a 2x4 around last game. The Prust hit was way different because, it was so late. Weaver had a similar hit on Brassard in the 1st game, but it was a clean hit, because it was an extension of the play.
GStone
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 04.17.2012

May 24 @ 10:21 AM ET
i know nobody here wants to hear this but the rangers get to play right up against the edge and it is a huge benefit for them. they had 2 minor penalties against them last game and i counted many calls that should have been made. on the stepan hit prust is coming from an angle in front of him where stepan should see him (his head is up, btw); with all the talk about players protecting themselves on plays close to the wall, i've seen many players avoid that kind of hit by ducking or stopping. maybe prust expects him to shoulder up and engage in a solid open-ice check? i think it sucks when guys get hurt, and i hope stepan is back, but it is a physical game that your team is allowed to play VERY physically much of the time. to their benefit. mtl had 10 sog thru 2 periods and it isn't because they aren't talented
- hogweed

Too hungover to read this, where's your avatar?
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

May 24 @ 10:23 AM ET
i know nobody here wants to hear this but the rangers get to play right up against the edge and it is a huge benefit for them. they had 2 minor penalties against them last game and i counted many calls that should have been made. on the stepan hit prust is coming from an angle in front of him where stepan should see him (his head is up, btw); with all the talk about players protecting themselves on plays close to the wall, i've seen many players avoid that kind of hit by ducking or stopping. maybe prust expects him to shoulder up and engage in a solid open-ice check? i think it sucks when guys get hurt, and i hope stepan is back, but it is a physical game that your team is allowed to play VERY physically much of the time. to their benefit. mtl had 10 sog thru 2 periods and it isn't because they aren't talented
- hogweed

That's the Rangers, hell raisers.

Edit: And if the prust hit was legal, he'd be playing in games 4 and 5. So that says everything we need to know about you.
B2B76
New York Rangers
Location: "I got mouths to feed", NY
Joined: 08.14.2008

May 24 @ 10:27 AM ET
Too hungover to read this, where's your avatar?
- GStone

bodiva88
Referee
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There aren't any answers. Only choices.
Joined: 07.01.2007

May 24 @ 10:33 AM ET
Apparently the ref did see the hit & deemed it a clean hit. But the bigger question like Jan commented on in his post yesterday is, if its a suspension but not a penalty on the ice, doesn't that make the officials responsible for some answers? Can't be too good officiating to have such a catch 22 as this happen.
- DJ Lance Rock

I won't say it is true in this case. But in many cases, being able to review something repeatedly in slo-mo and super-slo-mo shows you a different angle, or shows you all of what happened, which you cannot get from a single view at full speed in the heat of battle.
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