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braidan
Referee
Montreal Canadiens
Location: State of Corruption.
Joined: 09.27.2006

May 23 @ 7:07 PM ET
Same refs that screwed up the entire game with wrong calls and no calls?
They get to decide the suspension length?
Very smart.

Maybe Lasik surgery should be a requirement for all of them.

- StargateSG1

Once they decide it is rule 40 it is either 3 10 or 20
It just depends on which category.

http://www.nhl.com/ice/page.htm?id=26328
Jan Levine
New York Rangers
Joined: 09.16.2005

May 23 @ 7:07 PM ET
Prust play is reviewed by the league, rule 40 is decided by the refs of the game.
- braidan

who got it more right? Can I say neither?
Jan Levine
New York Rangers
Joined: 09.16.2005

May 23 @ 7:08 PM ET
2 games is fair IMO. I think 3 games would've been too much.
- RAGSareDANGERus

If he hasn't taken the several steps over and targeted the head, but made contact with the shoulder, I could have seen one game. The extra steps coming over and the targeting, to me was a 3-4 game one.
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

May 23 @ 7:10 PM ET
If he hasn't taken the several steps over and targeted the head, but made contact with the shoulder, I could have seen one game. The extra steps coming over and the targeting, to me was a 3-4 game one.
- airjan23


I thought he targeted the chest Jan, but the again, I haven't watched it since yesterday.
StargateSG1
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Buffalo Grove, IL
Joined: 03.07.2013

May 23 @ 7:10 PM ET
Once they decide it is rule 40 it is either 3 10 or 20
It just depends on which category.

http://www.nhl.com/ice/page.htm?id=26328

- braidan


I am pretty sure Carcillo didn't get his money's worth.
So 20 is the max?
Give him a concussion then, it's pre-paid plan.
RAGSareDANGERus
New York Rangers
Joined: 05.22.2013

May 23 @ 7:11 PM ET
I am pretty sure Carcillo didn't get his money's worth.
So 20 is the max?
Give him a concussion then, it's pre-paid plan.

- StargateSG1

20 is inflicting an actual injury, 10 is making contact, and 3 is just a verbal threat or I assume a physical gesture that makes the official flinch.
RAGSareDANGERus
New York Rangers
Joined: 05.22.2013

May 23 @ 7:12 PM ET
If he hasn't taken the several steps over and targeted the head, but made contact with the shoulder, I could have seen one game. The extra steps coming over and the targeting, to me was a 3-4 game one.
- airjan23

If Seabrook gets 3 for the Backes hit, 2 is more than fair.
MTL1
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Brampton, ON
Joined: 06.30.2006

May 23 @ 7:14 PM ET
If Seabrook gets 3 for the Backes hit, 2 is more than fair.
- RAGSareDANGERus

Backes actually missed time from the seabrook hit
StargateSG1
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Buffalo Grove, IL
Joined: 03.07.2013

May 23 @ 7:16 PM ET
If Seabrook gets 3 for the Backes hit, 2 is more than fair.
- RAGSareDANGERus



And there lies the BS.
Seabrook should have gotten 7 to 10 games easily.
But he is a Hawk, so he gets 3 games. Can't risk the Hawks
being eliminated by the Blues, bad for revenue.

All these analysts across all networks, blogs and beat writers should
be screaming bloody murder about "disciplinary decisions".
Yet, it's quiet.
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

May 23 @ 7:17 PM ET
Backes actually missed time from the seabrook hit
- MTL1


You keep saying Stepan isn't missing anytime. Is this just your opinion? Or are you friends with Stepans surgeon?
MTL1
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Brampton, ON
Joined: 06.30.2006

May 23 @ 7:19 PM ET
You keep saying Stepan isn't missing anytime. Is this just your opinion? Or are you friends with Stepans surgeon?
- mdw7413

The analysts on tsn mentioned that it won't be a surprise if he comes back in this series and not out indefinitely as this blog title suggests

Even AV has mentioned that he will decide what his status is on Saturday
Never did he say he was out of the series
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

May 23 @ 7:21 PM ET
The analysts on tsn mentioned that it won't be a surprise if he comes back in this series and not out indefinitely as this blog title suggests

Even AV has mentioned that he will decide what his status is on Saturday

- MTL1


Ok. But by the same token, Brassard has been day to day and he missed 2 games, don't think anyone really knows, just lots of speculation.
RAGSareDANGERus
New York Rangers
Joined: 05.22.2013

May 23 @ 7:22 PM ET
The analysts on tsn mentioned that it won't be a surprise if he comes back in this series and not out indefinitely as this blog title suggests

Even AV has mentioned that he will decide what his status is on Saturday
Never did he say he was out of the series

- MTL1

Out indefinitely just means there is no specific timetable for return. He could be back next game, next series, or next season.
RAGSareDANGERus
New York Rangers
Joined: 05.22.2013

May 23 @ 7:34 PM ET
Backes actually missed time from the seabrook hit
- MTL1

It should be noted that he missed a hell of a lot less time than anyone thought. In the regular season, the hit he took keeps him out a couple months at least. In the playoffs, he comes back before he's actually ready....because it's the cup.
evitageN
New York Rangers
Location: AKA Nick, I wrote a song about Facebook Stalkin'
Joined: 01.29.2008

May 23 @ 7:42 PM ET
I think his jaw broke from hitting the ice - 2 games was for a seriously late/blind side hit. More games would have come had they made the call that he targeted and hit the head. From slow-mo, it seems he got him in the chest and the major damage came from the fall. Nevertheless, lame play by Prust.
- nords21


Thought it would be 2-3 games after watching the replay (didnt get to see game live). Hit wasn't directed at head but was pathetically late and from the blind side. Prust brings a dimension of play the Habs lack and could use on occasion, but that crap has no place in the game. Worst thing is both players mentioned being friends; wonder if that will persist after the broken jaw result?
- nords21


Can't believe Prust is listed at the same height as Stepan... Definitely don't think that's correct. I think the only reason it wasn't a head shot is because Stepan's slightly taller.

I AM your mod. I have BEEN your mod for years. I actually like 99% of you. I actually got in trouble for NOT banning a Ranger fan who really deserved it last night.
- bodiva88


This is the internet -- can't believe how serious the higher ups at Hockeybuzz take this stuff.
way out west
Joined: 12.30.2008

May 23 @ 8:09 PM ET
The analysts on tsn mentioned that it won't be a surprise if he comes back in this series and not out indefinitely as this blog title suggests

Even AV has mentioned that he will decide what his status is on Saturday
Never did he say he was out of the series

- MTL1

Canadian media , and I'm Canadian
Balzac
Joined: 08.04.2008

May 23 @ 8:44 PM ET
i'm ok with 2 games, it's fair... and 10 for Carcillo...well... does it really hurts the rags?
gkmkiller
New York Rangers
Location: Oceanside, CA
Joined: 06.07.2009

May 23 @ 8:51 PM ET
I thought he targeted the chest Jan, but the again, I haven't watched it since yesterday.
- mdw7413

Not that it matters but it seemed to me that he leaned in and launched enough that it was inevitable he would catch Stepan high, in the area of the head. To me that hit was the definition of reckless. Show that video to Michel Therrien so he knows exactly what reckless is.
gkmkiller
New York Rangers
Location: Oceanside, CA
Joined: 06.07.2009

May 23 @ 8:52 PM ET
i'm ok with 2 games, it's fair... and 10 for Carcillo...well... does it really hurts the rags?
- Balzac

Bottom line is you can't touch an official like he did and it doesn't matter in the least what prompted his reaction. That's not how you avenge or seek retribution for a hit you didn't like. He has to be smarter than that.
smkuchta
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Puerto Vallarta
Joined: 02.16.2007

May 23 @ 9:24 PM ET
Carcillo suspension not a surprise, it is like leaving the bench during a fight pretty automatic and not much room for interpretation. Guy is a punk anyhow so who cares.

Prust suspension is a joke, compare Prust's hit to Rome's hit on Horton in the SCF a few years ago and tell me which is worse? Rome got suspended 4 games in the finals and got a 5 minute match penalty.

NHL discipline is a joke
top shelf 15
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 11.23.2008

May 23 @ 9:26 PM ET
Carcillo suspension not a surprise, it is like leaving the bench during a fight pretty automatic and not much room for interpretation. Guy is a punk anyhow so who cares.

Prust suspension is a joke, compare Prust's hit to Rome's hit on Horton in the SCF a few years ago and tell me which is worse? Rome got suspended 4 games in the finals and got a 5 minute match penalty.

NHL discipline is a joke

- smkuchta
Yep agreed
Liger4
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 05.12.2014

May 23 @ 9:45 PM ET
says the guy who probably owns 3 Chris Neil jerseys.
- DoubleDown


At least Chris Neil has SOME skill, Prust is a useless plug.
MTL1
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Brampton, ON
Joined: 06.30.2006

May 23 @ 9:48 PM ET
At least Chris Neil has SOME skill, Orr and mclaren are useless plugs
- Liger4

tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

May 23 @ 9:57 PM ET
Carcillo suspension not a surprise, it is like leaving the bench during a fight pretty automatic and not much room for interpretation. Guy is a punk anyhow so who cares.

Prust suspension is a joke, compare Prust's hit to Rome's hit on Horton in the SCF a few years ago and tell me which is worse? Rome got suspended 4 games in the finals and got a 5 minute match penalty.

NHL discipline is a joke

- smkuchta

Jeremy Jacobs always gets what he wants.
Liger4
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 05.12.2014

May 23 @ 10:07 PM ET
[quote=MTL1]

Which is why they get no ice time... Except when they are completely hammering Habs...
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