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PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

May 23 @ 9:57 AM ET
As a hockey player there isn't one thing I like about that guy.
- Scoob


One of the top 5 biggest POS in the league.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

May 23 @ 9:57 AM ET
As a hockey player there isn't one thing I like about that guy.
- Scoob

My thoughts exactly. He's an embarrassment, through and through.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

May 23 @ 9:57 AM ET
Here is my roster. I think it is logical and actually makes sense.

CAPGEEK.COM ARMCHAIR GM ROSTER
CapGeek Armchair GM Roster
FORWARDS
Scott Hartnell ($4.750m) / Claude Giroux ($8.275m) / Jakub Voracek ($4.250m)
Mason Raymond ($2.500m) / Brayden Schenn ($1.750m) / Wayne Simmonds ($3.975m)
Jason Akeson ($1.100m) / Sean Couturier ($1.750m) / Matt Read ($3.625m)
Michael Raffl ($1.100m) / Scott Laughton ($0.863m) / Leo Komarov ($2.000m)
Jay Rosehill ($0.675m) / Zac Rinaldo ($0.750m) /
DEFENSEMEN
Mark Streit ($5.250m) / Andrew MacDonald ($5.000m)
Mark Alt ($0.782m) / Braydon Coburn ($4.500m)
Luke Schenn ($3.600m) / Nicklas Grossmann ($3.500m)
GOALTENDERS
Steve Mason ($4.100m)
Thomas Greiss ($0.950m)
BUYOUTS
Daniel Briere ($0.000m)
Ilya Bryzgalov ($0.000m)
LTIR
Chris Pronger ($4.941m)
RETAINED SALARIES (1.58% of upper limit)
Vincent Lecavalier ($1.125m—25.00%)
------
CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(estimations for 2014-15)
SALARY CAP: $71,100,000; CAP PAYROLL: $66,170,000; BONUSES: $330,833
CAP SPACE (22-man roster): $4,930,000
PhillaBully
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.20.2010

May 23 @ 10:00 AM ET
Looks good but I doubt Hextall is making that many moves. All teams that win Cups have a solid D core usually with a legit # 1. If Flyers can't get that franchise blue liner then building an overall higher quality D is where they should start.
- 3flyerkids


Very highly unlikely. Tried to work with what was out there.
PhillaBully
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.20.2010

May 23 @ 10:02 AM ET
Here is my roster. I think it is logical and actually makes sense.

CAPGEEK.COM ARMCHAIR GM ROSTER
CapGeek Armchair GM Roster
FORWARDS
Scott Hartnell ($4.750m) / Claude Giroux ($8.275m) / Jakub Voracek ($4.250m)
Mason Raymond ($2.500m) / Brayden Schenn ($1.750m) / Wayne Simmonds ($3.975m)
Jason Akeson ($1.100m) / Sean Couturier ($1.750m) / Matt Read ($3.625m)
Michael Raffl ($1.100m) / Scott Laughton ($0.863m) / Leo Komarov ($2.000m)
Jay Rosehill ($0.675m) / Zac Rinaldo ($0.750m) /
DEFENSEMEN
Mark Streit ($5.250m) / Andrew MacDonald ($5.000m)
Mark Alt ($0.782m) / Braydon Coburn ($4.500m)
Luke Schenn ($3.600m) / Nicklas Grossmann ($3.500m)
GOALTENDERS
Steve Mason ($4.100m)
Thomas Greiss ($0.950m)
BUYOUTS
Daniel Briere ($0.000m)
Ilya Bryzgalov ($0.000m)
LTIR
Chris Pronger ($4.941m)
RETAINED SALARIES (1.58% of upper limit)
Vincent Lecavalier ($1.125m—25.00%)
------
CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(estimations for 2014-15)
SALARY CAP: $71,100,000; CAP PAYROLL: $66,170,000; BONUSES: $330,833
CAP SPACE (22-man roster): $4,930,000

- J35Bacher


streit/macdonald as your number one and two are scary....i still think you see grossmann get dumped this off season.
PhillaBully
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.20.2010

May 23 @ 10:05 AM ET
[quote=3flyerkids]

i think you can get myers...he can be a solid #2. im sure niskanen would sign @ 6
imagine in 2 years
Myers/Niskanen
Morin/Ghost
Amac/Alt/Hagg
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

May 23 @ 10:07 AM ET
streit/macdonald as your number one and two are scary....i still think you see grossmann get dumped this off season.
- PhillaBully



I don't have the d paired. just six dfenseman.
PhiFaninEdm
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Edmonton
Joined: 11.21.2011

May 23 @ 10:07 AM ET
One of the top 5 biggest POS in the league.
- PLindbergh31


I agree ...

Carcillo
Marchand
Lucic
Cooke
Neal

in no particular order
PhillaBully
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.20.2010

May 23 @ 10:07 AM ET
I don't have the d paired. just six dfenseman.
- J35Bacher

ohh sorry.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

May 23 @ 10:08 AM ET
I a curious what guys could be bought out this year. Any interest in David Booth if bought out?
PhiFaninEdm
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Edmonton
Joined: 11.21.2011

May 23 @ 10:08 AM ET
That's for Myers?? Way overpayment. Myers hasn't really proved anything yet other than that he has good size.
- FlyerAdam30


Would you do Myers for B Schenn straight across?
PhillaBully
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.20.2010

May 23 @ 10:08 AM ET
I agree ...

Carcillo
Marchand
Lucic
Cooke
Neal

in no particular order

- PhiFaninEdm

amazing how raffi torres is forgotten
PhillaBully
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.20.2010

May 23 @ 10:11 AM ET
That's for Myers?? Way overpayment. Myers hasn't really proved anything yet other than that he has good size.
- FlyerAdam30


And what have the schenns done? I dont think schenn and schenn are enought to get you myers. Personally id like to see couts on the second line. Hes going to be a (frank)ing monster once he fills out
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

May 23 @ 10:17 AM ET
listen i know that my rosters are close to impossibilities....but what else is there to do?
- PhillaBully


Study the draft prospects
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

May 23 @ 10:17 AM ET
And what have the schenns done? I dont think schenn and schenn are enought to get you myers. Personally id like to see couts on the second line. Hes going to be a (frank)ing monster once he fills out
- PhillaBully



Or he could go way of Patrick Berglund and Brandon Sutter. 2 guys of similar build/ability who had their best offensive years at ages 20-21 to date, and have settled into 3rd line roles.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

May 23 @ 10:19 AM ET
I agree ...

Carcillo
Marchand
Lucic
Cooke
Neal

in no particular order

- PhiFaninEdm


Pretty much spot on.
PhillaBully
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.20.2010

May 23 @ 10:22 AM ET
Study the draft prospects
- ob18

they all look like superstars in their you tube clips. I dont have the privilege of watching the juniors so i cant say i have an informed opinion of them.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

May 23 @ 10:22 AM ET
I am curious to see if things change with the Phantoms. They had better teams when right in philly and i am wondering with the kids being closer to Philly then Adirondak if they step it up. Maybe in some psychological way they feel they have a better chance at a call up since they are closer and easier for front office to notice.
- J35Bacher


The Phantoms were good in Philly because they were generally stocked with AHL veteran types.

It wasn't like the Phantoms were pumping out prospects when they were in Philly. They had older veteran types like Peter White, etc. They were just as interested in marketing a successful professional hockey franchise (to fill the building as much as possible) as they were anything else when the Phantoms were in Philly.

I look forward to the organization taking a different approach to the Phantoms now. I hope they have more prospects that they actually drafted and developed and fewer Denis Hamels or Peter Whites or John Slaneys.
PhillaBully
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.20.2010

May 23 @ 10:23 AM ET
Or he could go way of Patrick Berglund and Brandon Sutter. 2 guys of similar build/ability who had their best offensive years at ages 20-21 to date, and have settled into 3rd line roles.
- Just5


I see couts progression curve going in a positive direction. I personally think Lavy messed up his development. This year he seemed to assert himself more offensively
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

May 23 @ 10:24 AM ET
I'm a fan, although Schenn's played his best hockey with Kimmo and Coburn. I know it would be a nice transition for Alt to play with a vet like him, so I'd prefer to see:

Schenn-Coburn
Streit-AMac
Timonen-Alt
Lauridsen

- jmatchett383


works for me
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

May 23 @ 10:28 AM ET
I agree ...

Carcillo
Marchand
Lucic
Cooke
Neal

in no particular order

- PhiFaninEdm


Wow, that's like the douchebag hall of fame
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

May 23 @ 10:28 AM ET
they all look like superstars in their you tube clips. I dont have the privilege of watching the juniors so i cant say i have an informed opinion of them.
- PhillaBully


You can read about them
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

May 23 @ 10:28 AM ET
Study the draft prospects
- ob18

PhillaBully
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.20.2010

May 23 @ 10:29 AM ET
You can read about them
- PhillySportsGuy

i dont like reading.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

May 23 @ 10:30 AM ET
The Phantoms were good in Philly because they were generally stocked with AHL veteran types.

It wasn't like the Phantoms were pumping out prospects when they were in Philly. They had older veteran types like Peter White, etc. They were just as interested in marketing a successful professional hockey franchise (to fill the building as much as possible) as they were anything else when the Phantoms were in Philly.

I look forward to the organization taking a different approach to the Phantoms now. I hope they have more prospects that they actually drafted and developed and fewer Denis Hamels or Peter Whites or John Slaneys.

- johndewar


I don't mind filling your weak areas with AHL vets. For example, if Laughton opens with the Flyers, why not go out and get the best minor league center you can to center your first line? I'd like to see our kids develop on a solid to good team and not a stinker.
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