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PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

May 23 @ 2:06 PM ET
Pruster!
vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

May 23 @ 2:08 PM ET
The Twin Towers of suck!

At least Clarke brought that Ellison stud aboard.

- PLindbergh31

the flyers could use a player like Bob Clarke
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

May 23 @ 2:09 PM ET
...and Gratton with Lindros. That was a disaster.
- mayorofangrytown



Remember when they thought they could just move Brindy to LW when they traded for Gratton, then eventually moved Brindy back into the middle and Gratton to LW (where he sucked)... and Gratton wasn't good enough defensively to play 3rd-line C... man, they really learned nothing from that.

BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

May 23 @ 2:09 PM ET
the flyers could use a player like Bob Clarke
- vejim


Well, as long we're wishing, we could really use a Mark Howe and Eric Desjardins as well
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

May 23 @ 2:10 PM ET
Remember when they thought they could just move Brindy to LW when they traded for Gratton, then eventually moved Brindy back into the middle and Gratton to LW (where he sucked)... and Gratton wasn't good enough defensively to play 3rd-line C... man, they really learned nothing from that.


- Tomahawk


Yeah if history is going to repeat itself, why can't the Flyers repeat 72-76?
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

May 23 @ 2:11 PM ET
the flyers could use a player like Bob Clarke
- vejim


Would never take anything away from Clarke as a player. Not old enough to have seen him in his prime, but he was as fierce a competitor as there was.

As a front office guy..... Yikes.
vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

May 23 @ 2:13 PM ET
Would never take anything away from Clarke as a player. Not old enough to have seen him in his prime, but he was as fierce a competitor as there was.

As a front office guy..... Yikes.

- PLindbergh31

Clarke, Lindros and Hexy are my favorite players
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

May 23 @ 2:13 PM ET
With Laviolette in the fold, do you think the following would fill some Nashville needs?

Couturier, Hartnell and Lecavelier for Seth Jones and 2014 2nd, 2015 2nd?

I would also explore Coburn's trade value again if we can keep Kimmo at under $4M. He may be able to restock the cupboard with a body and a pick or 2 picks, possibly someone's 2015 1st. I think that we have made our bed with Streit's and Mac's contracts. Having off-season surgery will put us in a weak position regarding Grossman's trade value. I think Schenn is a keeper (both Schenn's - Brayden needs to be challenged to step up to the next level during his contract negotiations).

Sign a fast, large forward to skate with Giroux. If you keep Jake on that line, I wouldn't care if he had Roberto Duran's hands. The purpose would be to create space on the ice, score from 3 feet out and not take stupid offensive zone penalties. I would explore the more interesting UFA's like Moulson, though.

Couturier is great and all, but I'd rather have a shot at a perennial Norris candidate over someone who most likely will peak at a Handzus level and that is not a knock on Handzus or Couturier. If Laughton can step in at 75%-80% of Couturier's defensive abilities, I'd be happy.

2014-15 pairs:
Kimmo/Jones
Mac/Grossman
Streit/Schenn

2015-16 pairs:
Ghost/Jones
Mac/Schenn
Streit/Morin

- GeorgeBailey


Just for clarification, you are offering Vinny, Hartnell, and Coots for Jones and 2 seconds?

Wtf is this poop
vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

May 23 @ 2:14 PM ET
Well, as long we're wishing, we could really use a Mark Howe and Eric Desjardins as well

- BiggE

wow...indeed
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

May 23 @ 2:15 PM ET
My all time "what the hell were they thinking" Flyers team

G: Jeff Hackett
G: Ilya Bryzgalov (the contract, man that contract!)
D: Mike Rathje
D: Michel Petit
D: Ryan Parent
D: Yves Racine
D: Bruno Gervais
D: Kurtis Foster
LW: Barry Dean
LW: Claude Boivin
LW: Geoff Sanderson
LW: Kyle Calder
C: Todd Bergen
C: Vyacheslav Butsayev
C: Alexandre Daigle
C: Chris Gratton
RW: Dennis Ververgaert
RW: Drew Callender
RW: Sandy McCarthy
RW: Randy Ready

and for bonus points

Coach: Wayne Cashman

Now that's a vomit inducing lineup!!

- BiggE

Gotta take Bergen off of that list. A back injury and Mike Keenan killed that kid. Besides, of the 3 draft picks you put on there he was hardly a bad pick. Actually they've made a 100+ picks worse than Boivin, Bergen and Butsayev.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

May 23 @ 2:16 PM ET
Gotta take Bergen off of that list. A back injury and Mike Keenan killed that kid. Besides, of the 3 draft picks you put on there he was hardly a bad pick. Actually they've made a 100+ picks worse than Boivin, Bergen and Butsayev.
- mayorofangrytown



And no Jiri Dopita... I'm shocked.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

May 23 @ 2:16 PM ET
Would never take anything away from Clarke as a player. Not old enough to have seen him in his prime, but he was as fierce a competitor as there was.

As a front office guy..... Yikes.

- PLindbergh31

He was no Russ Farwell that's for sure.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

May 23 @ 2:17 PM ET
My all time "what the hell were they thinking" Flyers team

G: Jeff Hackett
G: Ilya Bryzgalov (the contract, man that contract!)
D: Mike Rathje
D: Michel Petit
D: Ryan Parent
D: Yves Racine
D: Bruno Gervais
D: Kurtis Foster
LW: Barry Dean
LW: Claude Boivin
LW: Geoff Sanderson
LW: Kyle Calder
C: Todd Bergen
C: Vyacheslav Butsayev
C: Alexandre Daigle
C: Chris Gratton
RW: Dennis Ververgaert
RW: Drew Callender
RW: Sandy McCarthy
RW: Randy Ready

and for bonus points

Coach: Wayne Cashman

Now that's a vomit inducing lineup!!

- BiggE


some strange choices, and i think some others are more worthy. kurtis foster? all-time? really? i
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

May 23 @ 2:19 PM ET
Remember when the Flyes acually had Russins on the team.

Malhakov
Markov
Zelepukin
Zhamnov
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

May 23 @ 2:20 PM ET
And no Jiri Dopita... I'm shocked.
- Tomahawk

He also left off Sean Burke, Billy Tibbetts, Pat Falloon and Keith Primeau.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

May 23 @ 2:24 PM ET
He also left off Sean Burke, Billy Tibbetts, Pat Falloon and Keith Primeau.
- mayorofangrytown



Oooh, controversial!
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

May 23 @ 2:25 PM ET
Oooh, controversial!
- Tomahawk

Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

May 23 @ 2:26 PM ET

- mayorofangrytown



Just thinking about that trade still makes me want to
wilsonecho91
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A dream to some...a nightmare to others, AK
Joined: 11.13.2007

May 23 @ 2:27 PM ET
some strange choices, and i think some others are more worthy. kurtis foster? all-time? really? i
- hammarby31

PhillaBully
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.20.2010

May 23 @ 2:37 PM ET
If we are actually talking serious trades...


How about this..

PHI:Brayden Schenn, Luke Schenn
WPG: Evander Kane, Bogosian

- jak521


i would do it .... dont think the peg would...worth a try
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

May 23 @ 2:39 PM ET
And no Jiri Dopita... I'm shocked.
- Tomahawk


Give me a break, I've spent years trying to forget Dopita!

You can replace Bergen with him, not a prob!
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

May 23 @ 2:40 PM ET
i would do it .... dont think the peg would...worth a try
- PhillaBully


We may be crazy up here, but not that crazy.

Luke Schenn is essentially a bottom pairing d-man on a team out the first round.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

May 23 @ 2:40 PM ET
some strange choices, and i think some others are more worthy. kurtis foster? all-time? really? i
- hammarby31


Geez, I had a few minutes to kill at work. Didn't think anyone would really take it that seriously
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

May 23 @ 2:41 PM ET
He also left off Sean Burke, Billy Tibbetts, Pat Falloon and Keith Primeau.
- mayorofangrytown


Sorry, but I've hypnotized myself to believe that Tibbetts never happened.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

May 23 @ 2:41 PM ET

- wilsonecho91

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