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rival22
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @Mance_22 - Albany, NY
Joined: 02.27.2007

May 21 @ 11:22 PM ET
TIOPS is saying that the team is doing homework on Guy Boucher.

Really hope that's not true. i find it hard to be true when they dont have a GM, but i generally like TIOPS so i'll take his word.

- SuperHenderson13


If true, either Botterill is getting the job, or Morehouse/Lemieux/Burkle are completely full of poop about their reason for hanging on to Bylsma, and the new GM being the one to make the decision on coaching.

This GM job can't look all that great to candidates.... Sky high expectations, a cap mess, a team business president who wants hockey input, and being somewhat being dictated to by ownership.

So far, the Pens have tried to get Crosby's agent to run the team, and now they are looking at an old coach of his to coach them.

I'm starting to think that this Pierre McGuire crap was pushed by the team today, to make whatever decision they make look better.

I'm more patient than most around here, but this isn't being handled well by this organization.

Sorry, rant over.
Genev21
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.29.2012

May 21 @ 11:31 PM ET
I tend to agree with you, always in Crosby's shadow. Malkin wants to be the top dog wherever he goes.
- flyerdude17

That's just simply not true he has no desire to be that top dog because that means he would have to talk to the media something he doesn't like very much.
SuperHenderson13
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 10.13.2008

May 21 @ 11:35 PM ET
https://m.facebook.com/st...%2Ft.co%2F2TLQAixI90&_rdr

huh?
Conse
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Rio de Janeiro
Joined: 11.27.2013

May 21 @ 11:43 PM ET
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10152038522616384&id=25795361383&refsrc=http%3A%2F%2Ft.co%2F2TLQAixI90&_rdr

huh?

- SuperHenderson13


roflmao
LeaderofthePAEK
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 01.16.2007

May 21 @ 11:44 PM ET
If I'm shopping Neal I'm looking for something like what Anaheim got for Bobby Ryan. I feel that's the most reasonable comparable. A young, cheap top 6/9 forward and a first round pick in the top half of the draft.

Try and shed some cap space while replenishing the farm system. The extra cap space should allow you to sign a 20-25 goal scorer to play with geno, along with whoever comes back for Neal. Remember, we won the cup with Malkin centering talbot and fedotenko. Get younger, cheaper, quicker, and hungrier.
penguins-4-life
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 03.26.2014

May 22 @ 12:16 AM ET
The real deal James "Kneeal"... BOOM Headshot

^ That certainly prevents him from being the real deal
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

May 22 @ 12:45 AM ET
Ryan Wilson: Is James Neal the Real Deal?
Is James Neal the Real Deal?

- Ryan_Wilson

acdc1206
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh teams suck, PA
Joined: 06.13.2007

May 22 @ 12:50 AM ET
TIOPS is one of the best insiders and bloggers in the business.
- joescullz


Maybe if you are comparing him to Ek he is.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

May 22 @ 12:52 AM ET
u should bring cookie back, hella good hockey player
SuperHenderson13
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 10.13.2008

May 22 @ 1:23 AM ET
u should bring cookie back, hella good hockey player
- Marc D

u should bring carter back, hella good hockey player
yzermaneely
Anaheim Ducks
Location: Poway, CA
Joined: 12.17.2011

May 22 @ 1:40 AM ET
Send him to the Ducks for Devante Smith-Pelly and Luca Sbisa. DSP is a RFA who made $870K last year. Sbisa has 1 more year at $2.175 lleft, then he's a RFA. It would bring youth and around $1 million in cap relief this year to the Pens, then they would be free of Sbisa's portion after this season. And it would be interesting to see what Neal could do with Getzlaf and Perry. No one else seems to be able to stick with those two.
Thunderbolt
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Wampum, PA
Joined: 01.20.2014

May 22 @ 5:48 AM ET
It was reported by Savern. He's not a "gossip" guy like Rossi. So if true, it has to be one of three guys.

Letang: He's reportedly a "sensitive" guy. Has take a ton of heat for his poor play the last couple of years. Wasn't happy about being demoted off the top PP.

MAF: Tired of being hung out to dry by a poor defensive team. Reputation is in the cellar and his name has become a punchline around the league. Could very easily look for a fresh start.

Neal: He's either tired of nailing every Pittsburgh hockey slut or tired of playing with two of the best centers in the world....WTF? I guess we'll have to go with the hockey slut theory.

- madmike71


Listened to Josh Yohe interview yesterday on my ride home and he said the Pittsburgh locker room very quiet and there was undoubtedly a rift amongst the players. Fluery was the only player keeping them together. Throughout the conversation although he never came out and said it but it was certainly implied that James Neal was the guy looking get out.
It was Yohe and Madden so take it for what it is worth.
cap1681
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Verona, PA
Joined: 02.04.2010

May 22 @ 7:24 AM ET
Send him to the Ducks for Devante Smith-Pelly and Luca Sbisa. DSP is a RFA who made $870K last year. Sbisa has 1 more year at $2.175 lleft, then he's a RFA. It would bring youth and around $1 million in cap relief this year to the Pens, then they would be free of Sbisa's portion after this season. And it would be interesting to see what Neal could do with Getzlaf and Perry. No one else seems to be able to stick with those two.
- yzermaneely


Make it Smith-Pelly and Palmieri or Etem, and you got a deal. Would rather see the Pens get two young wingers with potential who can contribute right now. Penguins have young defensemen in the system that need to be able to have growing pains in the NHL, and bringing in another young defenseman would hinder that.
Guile
Joined: 03.04.2014

May 22 @ 7:46 AM ET
Yeesh... so late to the party with the gif... So a tribute, to the future of player safety in 10 years after the 200th concussion lawsuit goes through in all pro sports.

Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

May 22 @ 8:11 AM ET
Guile
Joined: 03.04.2014

May 22 @ 8:14 AM ET
ThatDarnCat
Location: In the control group
Joined: 04.01.2010

May 22 @ 8:36 AM ET

if youre the 3rd or 4th best player in the world and you hate the spotlight, what's your best case?

play on a team that the best player in the world plays on.

- SuperHenderson13


Chicago?

cap1681
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Verona, PA
Joined: 02.04.2010

May 22 @ 8:44 AM ET
NoobasaurusRex
Dallas Stars
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.18.2011

May 22 @ 8:55 AM ET
I guess you guys are seeing what we saw here. Busted into the league and at times dominated for us his rookie year. Then every year after that he seemed to plateu and not get any better and was one dimensional. Completely relied on Richards to feed him. I give him credit tho, as far as pure snipers go he's one of the best. It just seams tho his streaky play, lack of discipline and two way game out way what he brings offensively. I would just move him and bring in someone who plays a better overall game.
nbartley9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 01.31.2012

May 22 @ 9:14 AM ET
I guess you guys are seeing what we saw here. Busted into the league and at times dominated for us his rookie year. Then every year after that he seemed to plateu and not get any better and was one dimensional. Completely relied on Richards to feed him. I give him credit tho, as far as pure snipers go he's one of the best. It just seams tho his streaky play, lack of discipline and two way game out way what he brings offensively. I would just move him and bring in someone who plays a better overall game.
- NoobasaurusRex

Hahahahah, so that's why you guys made one of the worst trades in the history of the NHL.

Smart thinking.
Oneonta Penguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.02.2007

May 22 @ 9:42 AM ET
Make it Smith-Pelly and Palmieri or Etem, and you got a deal. Would rather see the Pens get two young wingers with potential who can contribute right now. Penguins have young defensemen in the system that need to be able to have growing pains in the NHL, and bringing in another young defenseman would hinder that.
- cap1681


So, you want two pieces for him? Judging from the way many people talk regarding him, he is only worth a sixth round pick.
dbell646
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.13.2009

May 22 @ 9:46 AM ET
So, you want two pieces for him? Judging from the way many people talk regarding him, he is only worth a sixth round pick.
- Oneonta Penguin

I would expect a big return for Neal. I think you're foolish if you don't. As said in this article you don't need to trade him. That would be my mentality as a GM with every player.
nbartley9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 01.31.2012

May 22 @ 9:47 AM ET
Since when is the Rooney rule in effect in the NHL for players? That's all I have heard about in this room in the past week.
powerhouse
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Columbia , MD
Joined: 11.28.2006

May 22 @ 9:50 AM ET

- cap1681


There goes lunch.
Oneonta Penguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.02.2007

May 22 @ 9:51 AM ET
I would expect a big return for Neal. I think you're foolish if you don't. As said in this article you don't need to trade him. That would be my mentality as a GM with every player.
- dbell646


Then there alot of fools on this board. When you hear some of the comments, you would think a low pick is his worth.
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