Jets fan suggested Sutter Maatta and a pick for Kane. Not sure how I feel about it. The pick I think is pushing it to far. I think I'd decline though I just can't deal Maatta when we are losing Nisk and Orpik. Be nice to get Kane and keep Neal though. Top 6 would be pretty lethal.
- dbell646

Isles just signed Halak for 4yrs at $4.5M/yr.

Wonder if this is the benchmark for G contracts this offseason? Would make moving Fleury & replacing him with a cheaper, comparable goalie a little more difficult.
- s0rcerer1984

Bring in Reimer and Tarray.

Bring in Reimer and Tarray.
- Johnny Wrath

You mean Jarry? He's not close to ready if so.

- canadianpenfan

Yea he's such a big piece of the puzzle going forward but it's tempting. I don't really care if Sutter is included. Looking at what we have for next year I just wouldn't be able to pull the trigger.

Yea he's such a big piece of the puzzle going forward but it's tempting. I don't really care if Sutter is included. Looking at what we have for next year I just wouldn't be able to pull the trigger.
- dbell646

It's really not tempting to me. There aren't many players I would deal Maatta for while he's on his ELC.

But you're trading a player with known character flaws for a player with perceived character flaws.

Everything else being equal i take the chance.
- canadianpenfan

His flaws aren't that perceived to Paul Maurice. Also, why would Winnipeg be so inclined to trade his ass out of Railroad City Canada if his flaws were perceived and not true? Sounds like they want to rid themselves of Kane. Makes you want to think about things a bit ...

Bring in Reimer and Tarray.
- Johnny Wrath

LOL ... Reimer. If people think Fleury is maddening, wait until you see Reimer.

Jets fan suggested Sutter Maatta and a pick for Kane. Not sure how I feel about it. The pick I think is pushing it to far. I think I'd decline though I just can't deal Maatta when we are losing Nisk and Orpik. Be nice to get Kane and keep Neal though. Top 6 would be pretty lethal.
- dbell646

This isn't anything to think. This is a laughable thought by Jets fans. They have a guy with enormous talent, but a penny head and character flaws, but yet, they want 1.75 on the dollar for his issues? Pass.

You mean Jarry? He's not close to ready if so.
- canadianpenfan

Yeah fine. Jarry.

Fleury wins enough games in the regular season to get into the playoffs. So can more than half of the goalies in the NHL. Whatever you think after this postseason, I still think Fleury plants seeds of doubt in his teammates in the playoffs.

Time to turn the page.

Neal sent madden a direct message and said he never asked for a trade

His flaws aren't that perceived to Paul Maurice. Also, why would Winnipeg be so inclined to trade his ass out of Railroad City Canada if his flaws were perceived and not true? Sounds like they want to rid themselves of Kane. Makes you want to think about things a bit ...
- Oneonta Penguin

I know as much as you about the situation, which is next to nothing. But you like to jump to conclusions.

Maybe he hates Winnipeg with a passion (understandable for a rich young lad) and is trying to do anything he can to get out. Maybe it's all completely made up and fabricated. Certainly not going to base my opinion off a coach that obviously has issues with him.

You have no way of knowing what he'd be like in a different situation.

My point is simply if he turns out to be a rotten egg we're in the same boat we are if we kept Neal and I think it's worth the chance.

Neal sent madden a direct message and said he never asked for a trade
- dbell646

Seriously?

LOL ... Reimer. If people think Fleury is maddening, wait until you see Reimer.
- Oneonta Penguin

Fully agree with you here, i cringe just seeing his name mentioned as a possibility.

Neal sent madden a direct message and said he never asked for a trade
- dbell646

This is getting soap opera-ish.

Seriously?
- nbartley9

So Dan being fired and Neal asking for a trade are both unfounded after being reported by really credible sources?

This is getting soap opera-ish.
- canadianpenfan

This is really getting strange.

This is really getting strange.
- nbartley9

Yea said he sent it to him on twitter. He said mark I wouldn't lie to you about these types of things. This is turning into a circus. This needs to end

Fully agree with you here, i cringe just seeing his name mentioned as a possibility.
- canadianpenfan

I have no desire to see him here

Yea said he sent it to him on twitter. He said mark I wouldn't lie to you about these types of things. This is turning into a circus. This needs to end
- dbell646

HAHA wow, what a mess; we are a joke.

Jets fan suggested Sutter Maatta and a pick for Kane. Not sure how I feel about it. The pick I think is pushing it to far. I think I'd decline though I just can't deal Maatta when we are losing Nisk and Orpik. Be nice to get Kane and keep Neal though. Top 6 would be pretty lethal.
- dbell646

Can't move Maatta. He looked too good last year and youth will be needed at D in the very near future; can't trade the "sure thing," 19yr old man on a ELC when Dumoulin, Despres, Harrington, and Pouliet are still unknowns at the NHL level to varying degrees.

Now, if the Jets asked about Sutter + Pouliet, I'd listen very closely. Kane would make Neal superflous so he could be moved for another piece or pieces to re-coup some of what was lost in acquiring Kane. Send Neal to a competitive team out West that struggled on the PP this past year & whose window is now. off the top of my head, i'd try to deal with Vancouver, Anaheim, or San Jose. Maybe the Wild too.

Sutter + Pouliet + Pick = Kane (WPG)
Neal = near-NHL ready Top-6 F prospect + pick + current 3rd line roster player

HAHA wow, what a mess; we are a joke.
- nbartley9

No Madden is, but we already knew that.

HAHA wow, what a mess; we are a joke.
- nbartley9

I've never been embarrassed to be a pens fan but I'm getting there

I know as much as you about the situation, which is next to nothing. But you like to jump to conclusions.

Maybe he hates Winnipeg with a passion (understandable for a rich young lad) and is trying to do anything he can to get out. Maybe it's all completely made up and fabricated. Certainly not going to base my opinion off a coach that obviously has issues with him.

You have no way of knowing what he'd be like in a different situation.

My point is simply if he turns out to be a rotten egg we're in the same boat we are if we kept Neal and I think it's worth the chance.
- canadianpenfan

Also, I don't think Kane is the type of person who thrives as the face of a team. For all the talk that gets thrown around about how Malkin wants to be 'The Guy' so he wants out of Pitt., he really does seem to feel more comfortable not doing media stuff. This isn't to say he won't talk or shrinks from it when it is required; just that isn't that type of guy. Not everyone wants to be a leader and talk to the press or is fit for it.

Evander Kane strikes me as that kind of guy. He really hasn't done anything that is too terrible, but as the face of the Jets and its most talented player he is always going to get the tough Q's regardless of who wears the C. Similar to when Franics had the C in Pitt., but Jagr was clearly the best player.

I see a similar dynamic on Chicago as well. Patrick Kane is probably the Hawks most talented player, but Toewes is better as the C and answering the tough Q's to the media. It allows Kane to just do his thing without all the pressure that comes with being the face of a team.

Yea said he sent it to him on twitter. He said mark I wouldn't lie to you about these types of things. This is turning into a circus. This needs to end
- dbell646

Eh, better that Neal squashes the rumor rather than letting it fester & create confusion for a the new GM or current interim GM in Botteril. All Neal apparently did was say "I didn't ask for a trade out of Pitt."

Still, Madden being involved doesn't ever help the optics.

I've never been embarrassed to be a pens fan but I'm getting there
- dbell646

Because some fat ass radio personality makes poop up so he sounds important?