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AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

May 21 @ 10:49 AM ET
Which reminds me....

Besides Bure, have you seen anyone faster than McKinnon? Holy (frank)

- Giroux_Is_God


Used to love watching Pavel Bure skate. Nothing better in the sport that I've ever seen.
PhillaBully
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.20.2010

May 21 @ 10:50 AM ET
Didn't the Flyers tank in 2006-2007? Flyers had 56 points, the team with the next fewest points was Phoenix with 67.

To think the only thing the Flyers have to show from that embarrassing season is Luke Schenn. That's enough to make a billy goat puke.

- PLindbergh31


yeah but they picked probably the weakest drat of the decade to do it in....according to some this is the deepest nba draft in years...its all about the timing.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

May 21 @ 10:50 AM ET
All of these players will get qualifying offers, IMO.
- bmeltzer

Will the Flyers still send a QO to Gus?
What about Tye McGinn?
Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

May 21 @ 10:51 AM ET
Will the Flyers still send a QO to Gus?
What about Tye McGinn?

- Marc D


Not worth it at all, imo

McGinn, maybe for around the same price, no more than 900k
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

May 21 @ 10:52 AM ET
Didn't the Flyers tank in 2006-2007? They had 56 points, the team with the next fewest points was Phoenix with 67.

To think the only thing the Flyers have to show from that embarrassing season is Luke Schenn. That's enough to make a billy goat puke.

- PLindbergh31


The thing about that season -- which makes you laugh or cry -- is that they didn't think they'd be that bad.

I know. Hindsight says they were CLEARLY awful.

But they didn't really know they were that awful, heading into it.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

May 21 @ 10:52 AM ET
Didn't the Flyers tank in 2006-2007? They had 56 points, the team with the next fewest points was Phoenix with 67.

To think the only thing the Flyers have to show from that embarrassing season is Luke Schenn. That's enough to make a billy goat puke.

- PLindbergh31

They stunk in 06-7 but I don't think it was a planned tank job like the Sixers pulled this year.
FlyersGrace
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pronger "Play the game puffnuts!" , DE
Joined: 07.02.2012

May 21 @ 10:52 AM ET
Will the Flyers still send a QO to Gus?
What about Tye McGinn?

- Marc D

I think McGinn will get one but will probably stay in the AHL. I doubt they send anything over for Gus... But you never know!
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

May 21 @ 10:53 AM ET
He's definitely up there... Grabner might be the only guy faster... dude gets like 3-4 breakaways per game but he can't finish on any of them, lol.
- Tomahawk

Yeah man his hands are terrible. The speed and skill combo that McKinnon has is something you hardly ever see.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

May 21 @ 10:53 AM ET
He'd have to really drop a turd in camp for that to happen, I think, especially with cap-space being at such a premium, and him not being waiver-exempt.

And Erixon wouldn't be a lock to make the team either, though... that's the thing.

- Tomahawk



Correct. There is no lock for either to make the roster. But I am ok moving a forward for a dman where the dman could help us in an area of need.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

May 21 @ 10:54 AM ET
They stunk in 06-7 but I don't think it was a planned tank job like the Sixers pulled this year.
- Marc D


That team was one of the worst teams I've seen since I've been watching hockey. Just bad in every way imaginable. The fast guys were soft, the tough guys were slow, the good players were hurt...man.

Just AWFUL.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

May 21 @ 10:55 AM ET
They stunk in 06-7 but I don't think it was a planned tank job like the Sixers pulled this year.
- Marc D

Definitely didn't tank.

They were horrendous that year because of the lockout, which transformed the game. We all know that big slow lumbering defensemen get lit up in "today's" NHL...they had a team full of them.

06-07 was a direct result of a pre lockout team trying to compete against post lockout teams. And it didn't end well.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

May 21 @ 10:56 AM ET
That team was one of the worst teams I've seen since I've been watching hockey. Just bad in every way imaginable. The fast guys were soft, the tough guys were slow, the good players were hurt...man.

Just AWFUL.

- AllInForFlyers

The great Foppa skate gate drama

They had nothing else to write about
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

May 21 @ 10:57 AM ET
The great Foppa skate gate drama

They had nothing else to write about

- Marc D

Foppa

I don't know which Flyers tee I wear more...his or G's
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

May 21 @ 10:57 AM ET
I think McGinn will get one but will probably stay in the AHL. I doubt they send anything over for Gus... But you never know!
- FlyersGrace



Gus will get one just to retain his rights.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

May 21 @ 10:57 AM ET
The thing about that season -- which makes you laugh or cry -- is that they didn't think they'd be that bad.

I know. Hindsight says they were CLEARLY awful.

But they didn't really know they were that awful, heading into it.

- AllInForFlyers


True. Thinking back to that team with the Geoff Sanderson's, Kyle Calder, Mike York's, Randy Robitaille,'s of the world how could they do anything but suck?

Nittymaki was 9-29-9 with an .894 save %.... Holy poop....

Parlaying that type of season into a third pairing defenseman as the end result is pretty hard to do.

Edit: Randy Jones, Freddy Meyer, and Petr Nedved also on that team.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

May 21 @ 10:57 AM ET
Correct. There is no lock for either to make the roster. But I am ok moving a forward for a dman where the dman could help us in an area of need.
- J35Bacher



You don't hear it said very often, but we need depth at forward just as bad.

We actually have good prospects on D... Erixon would just join Alt and Manning as one of the 'closer' ones. Behind Laughton is a sea of nothing for miles.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

May 21 @ 10:59 AM ET
True. Thinking back to that team with the Geoff Sanderson's, Kyle Calder, Mike York's, Randy Robitaille,'s of the world how could they do anything but suck?

Nittymaki was 9-29-9 with an .894 save %.... Holy poop....

Parlaying that type of season into a third pairing defenseman as the end result is pretty hard to do.

- PLindbergh31

AND THERE IT IS

EDIT: Missed the first one
-davies-
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A medical emergency involving you.
Joined: 08.05.2013

May 21 @ 11:00 AM ET
where in nyc? Us flyers fans have to stick together! This has been the worst month being a flyer fan up here!
- PhillaBully



i live in brooklyn, prospect heights

i'm surrounded
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

May 21 @ 11:01 AM ET
He's up there for sure
Some other guys who could really fly:

Yvan Cournoyer - played with Montreal in the 60s and 70s
Bobby Orr - best pure skater I ever saw
Paul Coffey
Glenn Anderson
Sergei Federov

- BiggE

See I don't remember Federov enough, and didn't see any of the other guys play...
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

May 21 @ 11:02 AM ET
You don't hear it said very often, but we need depth at forward just as bad.

We actually have good prospects on D... Erixon would just join Alt and Manning as one of the 'closer' ones. Behind Laughton is a sea of nothing for miles.

- Tomahawk



But moving Akeson is not making a hole you can't replace. Dman are harder to come by and if it is a RFA for RFA i would do it.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

May 21 @ 11:05 AM ET
See I don't remember Federov enough, and didn't see any of the other guys play...
- Giroux_Is_God


Go back and look at video from the 97 Stanley Cup Finals. You'll see plenty of Federov.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

May 21 @ 11:05 AM ET
True. Thinking back to that team with the Geoff Sanderson's, Kyle Calder, Mike York's, Randy Robitaille,'s of the world how could they do anything but suck?

Nittymaki was 9-29-9 with an .894 save %.... Holy poop....

Parlaying that type of season into a third pairing defenseman as the end result is pretty hard to do.

Edit: Randy Jones, Freddy Meyer, and Petr Nedved also on that team.

- PLindbergh31


Man, I remember watching those games -- I still watched 75-plus -- and just looking for ANY signs of hope. Anything.

Then, Homer pulled off Zhitnik for Coburn. And you knew there was at least hope.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

May 21 @ 11:06 AM ET
Go back and look at video from the 97 Stanley Cup Finals. You'll see plenty of Federov.
- PLindbergh31

And Yzerman
And Lidstrom

Man what a team that was
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

May 21 @ 11:08 AM ET
You don't hear it said very often, but we need depth at forward just as bad.

We actually have good prospects on D... Erixon would just join Alt and Manning as one of the 'closer' ones. Behind Laughton is a sea of nothing for miles.

- Tomahawk


Don't make me cry today
PhillaBully
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.20.2010

May 21 @ 11:09 AM ET
i live in brooklyn, prospect heights

i'm surrounded

- -davies-


hahaha i live in queens...its just as bad there. I told one guy that they are crewed if Henrik goes down.....he told me "no were not we have biron as the backup"...Enough said.
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