I guess I am one of the few people who actually like Nonis and what he is doing. We have had much worse in the past.
- sparky

when we make the playoffs next year...everybody will be back on the LOVE wagon.

2nd liner vs 4th liner in performance this year
- AdamFrench

4th liner that's giving clarkson a lot of credit.

WOOOOO
- DougGilmour_93

How much you think be to get Markstrom out of Vancouver?
- Yeti1181

7th rounder

- Flyfreaky

How much you think be to get Markstrom out of Vancouver?
- Yeti1181

i read this in a pirate voice

You know what we need? An actual game plan. I would trade anything for one. A game plan from top of the organization down to the team on the ice. A message of how we draft, develop and win. You don't start a "culture change" at the ice level without a culture change at the mangement level.

When Detroit drafted Yzerman they decided to build and play a certain way and they've stuck with it since and look at them. A few cups and consistent playoff appearances no matter who is playing on the team.

4th liner that's giving clarkson a lot of credit.
- Yeti1181

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQYG6BDMtJo

GO CLARKSON GO

You know what we need? An actual game plan. I would trade anything for one. A game plan from top of the organization down to the team on the ice. A message of how we draft, develop and win. You don't start a "culture change" at the ice level without a culture change at the mangement level.

When Detroit drafted Yzerman they decided to build and play a certain way and they've stuck with it since and look at them. A few cups and consistent playoff appearances no matter who is playing on the team.
- Aaron_85

i thought shanahan was supposed to do this

when we make the playoffs next year...everybody will be back on the LOVE wagon.
- Garnie

Who cares? The guys on TSN radio have said this since the beginning of the playoffs, that the Leafs are so far away from competing with them in any meaningful way that it doesn't matter if we make the playoffs. They can't compete for real.

PART 2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eye1hzMB--k

i thought shanahan was supposed to do this
- Flyfreaky

Lieweke I think but he brought in Shanny as the start. They stopped at the GM and coach though...

You know what we need? An actual game plan. I would trade anything for one. A game plan from top of the organization down to the team on the ice. A message of how we draft, develop and win. You don't start a "culture change" at the ice level without a culture change at the mangement level.

When Detroit drafted Yzerman they decided to build and play a certain way and they've stuck with it since and look at them. A few cups and consistent playoff appearances no matter who is playing on the team.
- Aaron_85

the leafs havent been bad enough to hit rock bottom that it takes to get a player like Yzerman

You know what we need? An actual game plan. I would trade anything for one. A game plan from top of the organization down to the team on the ice. A message of how we draft, develop and win. You don't start a "culture change" at the ice level without a culture change at the mangement level.

When Detroit drafted Yzerman they decided to build and play a certain way and they've stuck with it since and look at them. A few cups and consistent playoff appearances no matter who is playing on the team.
- Aaron_85

didnt detroit offer Yzerman in a trade before they won the cups?

Lieweke I think but he brought in Shanny as the start. They stopped at the GM and coach though...
- Aaron_85

and that's the problem i have, i was hoping shanny wouldn't take the wait and see approach and should have fired both nonis and rc right off the bat

i read this in a pirate voice
- Sammich

Yar matey.

Who cares? The guys on TSN radio have said this since the beginning of the playoffs, that the Leafs are so far away from competing with them in any meaningful way that it doesn't matter if we make the playoffs. They can't compete for real.
- Aaron_85

really eh..the friggin TSN guys...

didnt detroit offer Yzerman in a trade before they won the cups?
- senstroll

no

really eh..the friggin TSN guys...
- Garnie

no
- Jurco_28

ok...Bowman considered it

''We depended on Steve to score too much,'' is Bowman's explanation. ''When you're not expected to score 65 goals a season, you can do more things. As you get older, and get more experience, you evolve into that kind of player. I've seen it happen to a lot of players.''

But Bowman almost did not see it happen to Yzerman. Early in the 1995-96 season, the Wings were discussing a potential trade involving Yzerman with the Ottawa Senators. The story in Detroit goes that Bowman was considering the move when the Red Wings' owner, Mike Ilitch, stepped in and said Yzerman was not going anywhere. A year later, the Wings won their first Stanley Cup. Tonight they were fitted for a second ring and Yzerman was awarded the Smythe.

ok...Bowman considered it
- senstroll

ya it was to motivate yzerman.
illitch would of never signed off on it.

and yes, the trade would of been a disaster

ok...Bowman considered it
- senstroll

really eh..the friggin TSN guys...
- Garnie

Are they wrong? Instead of commenting about the source why not refute the information?

Are they wrong? Instead of commenting about the source why not refute the information?
- Aaron_85

who can resist juicy leafs gossip

ya it was to motivate yzerman.
illitch would of never signed off on it.

and yes, the trade would of been a disaster
- Jurco_28

agreed and thats why the leafs should keep Kadri..
I expect a cup next season if they do