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usethe1-2-2
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 03.02.2014

May 19 @ 1:03 PM ET
He made $4.825 mil in actual salary this season, I think he still gets $5.5 mil +. The term to me is the scary part.
- rival22


The term is the deal breaker if he still wants over 5 years. I just think his style of play would be very beneficial on the Pens top line with Sid.
dbell646
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.13.2009

May 19 @ 1:05 PM ET
R.J. Umberger's trade request is kind of interesting...
- nbartley9

Not sure what brought it to fruition but I have no interest in him.
nbartley9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 01.31.2012

May 19 @ 1:06 PM ET
There is no reason to trade Evgeni Malkin at this point. I'm not sure why that comes up as much as it does. Letang will be difficult to move as well. I thought of cutting ties with Paul Martin to free up space, despite him being the most reliable defender we have, but at 5mill and now Boyle on the market as well... the waters seem a bit muddied.

I still think if you move Neal you have a real shot at bringing in Ryan Callahan.

- usethe1-2-2

Because people have no idea of what they are talking about, and the easiest thing to come up with is trade the Russian.
usethe1-2-2
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 03.02.2014

May 19 @ 1:08 PM ET
Not sure what brought it to fruition but I have no interest in him.
- dbell646


Talk about a Malone type deal. Umberger is just to dang beat up to make his paycheck worth it.
Also, I heard it was mutual and they wanted to do it during the season but he was injured so it didn't happen.
lloyd095
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 07.09.2006

May 19 @ 1:10 PM ET
You can't hire Botterhill. You fire Shero you don't promote the guy working closely with him and expect a different outcome. The Pens ownership wanting Brisson is a even bigger joke. I don't question that Shero deserved to be fired I am however questioning the way this search is rumored to be going. Looking for a Yes man? Just name Mario the GM and keep Botterill as the assistant then.
Grinder47
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somerset, PA
Joined: 10.20.2013

May 19 @ 1:18 PM ET
For the sake of argument and I know it will never happen but if you had to trade one of the two, why does Crosby automatically get a free pass over Malkin. Has he really done more for this team than Malkin in terms of making this team better.
When Crosby is out of the lineup, Malkin is a beast and the team as a whole plays much more responsibly. When Sid comes back its pedal to the metal and the team game is gone. When Geno is out, I don't think Sids game is elevated. If I could only have one, it would be Malkin.

- all-pgh

You do know Malkin is Russian and Crsoby is a better hockey player right?
nbartley9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 01.31.2012

May 19 @ 1:27 PM ET
Not sure what brought it to fruition but I have no interest in him.
- dbell646

Not at his cap hit no, but still an interesting situation none the less.
BillKessel
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Brooklyn, MI
Joined: 05.16.2013

May 19 @ 1:32 PM ET
Brisson has taken himself out of the running for GM.

http://www.cbssports.com/...nt-pursue-penguins-gm-job


Also you guys might already know this but Tanger broke his foot in game 6 and hand in game 7. Talk about a guy that needs the offseason
rival22
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @Mance_22 - Albany, NY
Joined: 02.27.2007

May 19 @ 1:37 PM ET
R.J. Umberger's trade request is kind of interesting...
- nbartley9


If it was for one year, and Columbus was eating a bit of the salary, I could see it, but 3 years at $4.6 million jut isn't good business.
Oneonta Penguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.02.2007

May 19 @ 1:39 PM ET
Brisson has taken himself out of the running for GM.

http://www.cbssports.com/...nt-pursue-penguins-gm-job


Also you guys might already know this but Tanger broke his foot in game 6 and hand in game 7. Talk about a guy that needs the offseason

- BillKessel


I know it was probably a freak accident on both accounts, but the dude is so injury prone, its not funny. That is part of the reason why his contract to me, is viewed as horrid.
Oneonta Penguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.02.2007

May 19 @ 1:40 PM ET
R.J. Umberger's trade request is kind of interesting...
- nbartley9


Why? Because if he doesn't get traded, he gets bought out? Which would you rather have?
BillKessel
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Brooklyn, MI
Joined: 05.16.2013

May 19 @ 1:43 PM ET
I know it was probably a freak accident on both accounts, but the dude is so injury prone, its not funny. That is part of the reason why his contract to me, is viewed as horrid.
- Oneonta Penguin



Wow hasnt even started his 8 yr contract, not sure you can kill shero for this he is an all world talent, but this contract looks as bad as the briere contract now
BillKessel
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Brooklyn, MI
Joined: 05.16.2013

May 19 @ 1:44 PM ET
If it was for one year, and Columbus was eating a bit of the salary, I could see it, but 3 years at $4.6 million jut isn't good business.
- rival22


Neal for Umberger
Deadstar
Joined: 06.29.2008

May 19 @ 1:45 PM ET
Just think, though. Apparently, the Penguins and Pierre McGuire have a very strong relationship, and you know he'd love the chance. You'd be BEGGING for McKenzie if that happened.
- jmatchett383


Pierre already said he wouldn't interview for it. "Honor matters to him" are his exact words. He's best friends with Shero
Deadstar
Joined: 06.29.2008

May 19 @ 1:46 PM ET
Pierre has also took himself out of the running, although I don't believe that he was ever asked lol.

He is an extremely close friend of Shero, and has no interest in the job "because honor matters".

Thank god that Pierre McGuire and Shero are tight, and McGuire is as loyal as he is annoying.

- rival22


Beat me but yes.
nbartley9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 01.31.2012

May 19 @ 1:46 PM ET
Why? Because if he doesn't get traded, he gets bought out? Which would you rather have?
- Oneonta Penguin

When not injured the guy can still be a force considering how big he is, tricky thing is when is he not injured.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

May 19 @ 1:47 PM ET
Because people have no idea of what they are talking about, and the easiest thing to come up with is trade the Russian.
- nbartley9


Just seems like he's the ultimate luxury/insurance policy is all. And whatever the reason, this All-Star cast/burgeoning dynasty hasn't won a playoff game past the 2nd round in 5 seasons now. Something needs serious changing, and it may have to be drastic.
Deadstar
Joined: 06.29.2008

May 19 @ 1:48 PM ET
Still nervous for what the replacement will do. That first deal might make some pining for Shero.
dbell646
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.13.2009

May 19 @ 1:50 PM ET
Just seems like he's the ultimate luxury/insurance policy is all. And whatever the reason, this All-Star cast/burgeoning dynasty hasn't won a playoff game past the 2nd round in 5 seasons now. Something needs serious changing, and it may have to be drastic.
- jmatchett383

If this was your team would you trade Malkin? Trading a Malkin/Crosby is not the same level as Richards/Carter it's not even close. I think it's one of those things as soon as you do it you'd regret it forever. And you can never take it back.
nbartley9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 01.31.2012

May 19 @ 1:50 PM ET
Just seems like he's the ultimate luxury/insurance policy is all. And whatever the reason, this All-Star cast/burgeoning dynasty hasn't won a playoff game past the 2nd round in 5 seasons now. Something needs serious changing, and it may have to be drastic.
- jmatchett383

Its pretty cut and dry, and its not Geno.
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

May 19 @ 1:53 PM ET
Why? Because if he doesn't get traded, he gets bought out? Which would you rather have?
- Oneonta Penguin


He'll be bought out. No team in their right mind would touch that contract. Maybe if Columbus eats the maximum allowed of that contract.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

May 19 @ 1:59 PM ET
If this was your team would you trade Malkin? Trading a Malkin/Crosby is not the same level as Richards/Carter it's not even close. I think it's one of those things as soon as you do it you'd regret it forever. And you can never take it back.
- dbell646


Well, although it was a trade driven by financial reasons, Edmonton traded (arguably) the best player in the history of the game and won a Stanley Cup 2 seasons later. Also, who is comparing Malkin/Crosby to Richards/Carter? You're right, it's not even close. All I'm saying is, if you have the best player in the game, it seems like having another top-5 player (again, arguably) at the same position is a luxury and insurance policy as opposed to a need. That's all.

I'm not saying it's the right idea. However, the way I see it, there are only 2 players in the game who are "untouchable" (Crosby, Stamkos), and for the right deal, anyone else could be dealt. But then again, I know Pittsburgh has some odd relationship with Malkin and his mom, so...
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

May 19 @ 1:59 PM ET
Its pretty cut and dry, and its not Geno.
- nbartley9


Please point out, with detailed analysis, exactly what the problem is, why it has not been remedied when it's completely obvious to a person on a message board, and how Malkin is the key to success.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

May 19 @ 2:00 PM ET
He'll be bought out. No team in their right mind would touch that contract. Maybe if Columbus eats the maximum allowed of that contract.
- madmike71


He'll get CBO'ed and end up making more money overall by signing a new deal.
Ryan Wilson
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 06.13.2013

May 19 @ 2:01 PM ET
Please point out, with detailed analysis, exactly what the problem is, why it has not been remedied when it's completely obvious to a person on a message board, and how Malkin is the key to success.
- jmatchett383


Start here, its pretty obvious what the Penguins problems were.

http://www.mc79hockey.com/?p=6761
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