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flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

May 18 @ 8:45 PM ET
It never gets old does it? The same joke over and over and over...
- SuperSchennBros


Just like coming on daily to beat the meat over LeCavalier deserving a top 9 role on the team.

Or is that not meant to be a joke?
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

May 18 @ 8:50 PM ET
Just like coming on daily to beat the meat over LeCavalier deserving a top 9 role on the team.

Or is that not meant to be a joke?

- flyer_nutter

No, it's not. It's pretty clear a player capable of scoring 20 goals is worth a top 6 role anywhere.

Maybe I'm missing something here. You've been using the same joke since mid-december, while the debate of whether or not Vincent Lecavalier belongs here has started since we were knocked out of the playoffs 2 weeks ago.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

May 18 @ 8:54 PM ET
No, it's not. It's pretty clear a player capable of scoring 20 goals is worth a top 6 role anywhere.
- SuperSchennBros


The only way LeCavalier is more than a fart in a windstorm next season, is if he fights Balrog, and rises out more powerful than before.
jstross
Joined: 06.25.2012

May 18 @ 8:54 PM ET
Be strong up the middle, stay young and build via the draft and player development.

Raymond-G-Voracek
Hartnell-Statsny-Simmonds
Raffl-Couts-Read
Hall-Laughton-Rinaldo
Akkeson

Kimmo (at $2million for 1 year)
MacDonald
Schenn
Coburn
Brodie
Streit
Lauridson

Mason, Emery

You pick up picks for Grossman, VL. Call it 2 4ths.
You trade Schenn for Brodie, #34, +
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

May 18 @ 8:58 PM ET
The only way LeCavalier is more than a fart in a windstorm next season, is if he fights Balrog, and rises out more powerful than before.
- flyer_nutter

Still waiting for a real point to be made.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

May 18 @ 9:00 PM ET
Still waiting for a real point to be made.
- SuperSchennBros


I wouldn't hold on too long.

Just (frank)ing with you, have a good night.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

May 18 @ 9:06 PM ET
The only way LeCavalier is more than a fart in a windstorm next season, is if he fights Balrog, and rises out more powerful than before.
- flyer_nutter



please, can we throw scuderi in there too?

oh wait, he just sucks you say? not much can be done about that. awesome.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

May 18 @ 9:07 PM ET
Be strong up the middle, stay young and build via the draft and player development.

Raymond-G-Voracek
Hartnell-Statsny-Simmonds
Raffl-Couts-Read
Hall-Laughton-Rinaldo
Akkeson

Kimmo (at $2million for 1 year)
MacDonald
Schenn
Coburn
Brodie
Streit
Lauridson

Mason, Emery

You pick up picks for Grossman, VL. Call it 2 4ths.
You trade Schenn for Brodie, #34, +

- jstross


damn i think mason raymond is a nice little player, but would you be comfortable slotting him on the first line with giroux?
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

May 18 @ 9:08 PM ET
The only way LeCavalier is more than a fart in a windstorm next season, is if he fights Balrog, and rises out more powerful than before.
- flyer_nutter


Fly you fools
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

May 18 @ 9:19 PM ET

?

flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

May 18 @ 9:23 PM ET
?


- Crimsoninja


Apathetic
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

May 18 @ 9:24 PM ET
?


- Crimsoninja

Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

May 18 @ 9:35 PM ET
Why doesn't everyone stop arguing about Vinny and just watch Cosmos
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

May 18 @ 9:36 PM ET
Is trading up 13 spots worth Schenn or do you consider brodie an upgrade over Luke?
- jstross


I consider Brodie a huge upgrade on Luke. He's a good, two way guy who can move the puck and skates well
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

May 18 @ 9:49 PM ET
No, it's not. It's pretty clear a player capable of scoring 20 goals is worth a top 6 role anywhere.

Maybe I'm missing something here. You've been using the same joke since mid-december, while the debate of whether or not Vincent Lecavalier belongs here has started since we were knocked out of the playoffs 2 weeks ago.

- SuperSchennBros


You're kind of beating the 20 goals scored to death. The goals were great, unfortunately the overall play was terrible.

The Flyers are going to be a skating team this upcoming season, per the coach and new GM. Lecavalier is a subpar skater.

At this point in his career, Lecavalier is basically a stationary shooter, which is a poor fit for the system and personnel on the roster.

The Flyers need more guys who can be good two way players. Lecavalier is not a good two way player, in large part because of his skating deficiencies.

Lecavalier is not going to suddenly improve as a skater, and unless something really odd happens, the Flyers aren't going to change coaches in the near future.

I don't care how many goals he has over his career or how many Stanley Cups he's won. He's a limited player, in the twilight of his career. Even if he has a bounce back season, it's not likely he will bounce back to a 90 point guy.

I'd rather see kids like Schenn and Couturier get an opportunity. They are the future.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

May 18 @ 9:50 PM ET
Why doesn't everyone stop arguing about Vinny and just watch Cosmos
- Giroux_Is_God


Already watching.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

May 18 @ 9:52 PM ET
Already watching.
- MBFlyerfan


I watch Mondays, when the kids aren't running around the house making noise looking for their softball and soccer crap
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

May 18 @ 9:54 PM ET
Already watching.
- MBFlyerfan



(frank) these commercials though. Reminds me of why I just use couchtuner 99.9% of the time
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

May 18 @ 9:58 PM ET


(frank) these commercials though. Reminds me of why I just use couchtuner 99.9% of the time

- Giroux_Is_God



I love couchtuner. Its why I only have basic cable and internet.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

May 18 @ 10:00 PM ET
I love couchtuner. Its why I only have basic cable and internet.
- MBFlyerfan

You stream the Flyers then?
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

May 18 @ 10:07 PM ET
I love couchtuner. Its why I only have basic cable and internet.
- MBFlyerfan

im not surprised. but i havent the slightest idea what that is.
jstross
Joined: 06.25.2012

May 18 @ 10:15 PM ET
damn i think mason raymond is a nice little player, but would you be comfortable slotting him on the first line with giroux?
- stayinthefnnet


Lines up to folks with better hock knowledge. I didn't see Hartnell as a player with that contract anyone would take. You could flip the LWs or try to deal Hartnell and go after another LW.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

May 18 @ 10:15 PM ET
im not surprised. but i havent the slightest idea what that is.
- stayinthefnnet


It's a streaming site with a ton of content available for free. Google it.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

May 18 @ 10:18 PM ET
Lines up to folks with better hock knowledge. I didn't see Hartnell as a player with that contract anyone would take. You could flip the LWs or try to deal Hartnell and go after another LW.
- jstross


I'm worried Raymond parleys his solid season into an overpayment. Still a bit leery of him.

Id rather move Read up to that spot and see what's out there in trade or free agency
FlyersSteve118
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Delco, PA
Joined: 10.02.2013

May 18 @ 10:25 PM ET
I really just hope the flyers cut some baggage and open up space for the kids. In 2 years or less we can have a fully home grown team that will be a cup contender.

Top 9 of...
Raffl G Jake
Harts Schenn Simmonds
Akeson Couts Read

With Laughton possibly making a case somewhere in there.

D Corps of...
Morin Coburn
Ghost Schenn
Streit MacDonald

(OR various other combos depending on development.)

If everything goes well. G will only be 28 to 29 and still playing great and defense will be looking good. If we trade away Schenn for defense in the off season we will be seriously low on good forward prospects and will have nothing left to fill up the roster if an injury occurs.

I really really hope we do the UFA route to plug up holes (Kulemin, Pouliot, Jokinen, Raymond, depth dman) and try to get rid of salary like Lecavalier, maybe Grossman or MacDonald.
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