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SuperSchennBros
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May 12 @ 9:58 PM ET
Brian Elliott? The guy who has been below league average for pretty much every team he's played on except St Louis? He's had two seasons in his NHL career when his save % was over .910.
- Jsaquella

So you admit he's been good for St Louis?
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

May 12 @ 9:59 PM ET
What exactly has made us a better team since trading Carter and Richards? As it stands our playoff record prior to trading them was much better. This isn't to same I hate nor blame what we already have.
- SuperSchennBros


What has made them a lesser team is losing Pronger. You don't lose a guy like that and not feel it for awhile.

It's not about blame, it's about identifying weakness and addressing it. The Flyers get killed at 5 on 5, in part, because their defensemen can't regularly make outlet passes. Grossmann is a factor there. It's not blaming him, it's simple true.

The teams that are still playing, for the most part, have a lot of defensemen that can make a smart outlet pass and not get hemmed in their own end. The lone exception is Montreal, who for some reason keeps running out Douglas Murray.
Pixote Andolini
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.23.2007

May 12 @ 9:59 PM ET
Claude Julian is pissed.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 12.15.2011

May 12 @ 9:59 PM ET
So you admit he's been good for St Louis?
- SuperSchennBros

Of all the things we're gonna argue about, why are we gonna argue about Brian (frank)ing Elliot?

Or did I miss something?
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
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May 12 @ 10:00 PM ET
Claude Julian is pissed.
- Pixote Andolini

You mean the Michelin Man is pissed
dillpx183
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Marietta, PA
Joined: 02.26.2011

May 12 @ 10:00 PM ET
literally just spent a couple minutes laughing my ass off over the pez and pierre intervie gifs pure gold
Pixote Andolini
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.23.2007

May 12 @ 10:00 PM ET
Of all the things we're gonna argue about, why are we gonna argue about Brian (frank)ing Elliot?

Or did I miss something?

- Giroux_Is_God

Someone was posting that there's better options out there besides Emery for a Flyers goaltender signing. His name was thrown into the mix.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

May 12 @ 10:00 PM ET
What exactly has made us a better team since trading Carter and Richards? As it stands our playoff record prior to trading them was much better. This isn't to same I hate nor blame what we already have.

I say pair Grossmann with somebody better than Mark Streit.

- SuperSchennBros


Streit was our best dman toward the end of the season and in the playoffs

The pairing does lack speed, but streit showed me surprising physicality
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

May 12 @ 10:00 PM ET

- wilsonecho91


Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

May 12 @ 10:01 PM ET
So you admit he's been good for St Louis?
- SuperSchennBros


Yeah, kind of why I suggested him as a possible back up. Why suggest somebody who isn't any good-or at least isn't as good as Emery?

Elliott has played well in St Louis, behind a very good defensive team. But I doubt there's many teams that would be eager to sign him as a starter.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
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May 12 @ 10:01 PM ET

- PhillySportsGuy

Who's head is that?

If it's Carcillo, whoever made this wins everything ever
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

May 12 @ 10:02 PM ET
Of all the things we're gonna argue about, why are we gonna argue about Brian (frank)ing Elliot?

Or did I miss something?

- Giroux_Is_God


Nope. Eliott was mentioned as a possible replacement for Emery as back up
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
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May 12 @ 10:02 PM ET
Someone was posting that there's better options out there besides Emery for a Flyers goaltender signing. His name was thrown into the mix.
- Pixote Andolini

ah
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

May 12 @ 10:02 PM ET
For the night crowd

Game 7 between Edmonton and Portland will be available for free online.

http://www.WHL.ca/

Flyers prospect Taylor Leier plays for Portland.

- ob18


Bump
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
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May 12 @ 10:02 PM ET
Who's arguing and from the sounds of things, you missed my original question.

Maybe you feel entitled for me to agree with you on your view but...I don't.

My apologies if you need them.

- SuperSchennBros

wut
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

May 12 @ 10:02 PM ET
Streit was our best dman toward the end of the season and in the playoffs

The pairing does lack speed, but streit showed me surprising physicality

- Just5


Streit played very well down the stretch. I'd like to see him paired with Coburn, myself
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
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May 12 @ 10:03 PM ET
wut
- Giroux_Is_God

Sorry, I thought you were someone else
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
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May 12 @ 10:03 PM ET
Nope. Eliott was mentioned as a possible replacement for Emery as back up
- Jsaquella

I see I see.

Backreading is for squares anyway.

Definitely thought that little exchange at the top of this page had the potential to blossom into a lovely argument over a backup goalie
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
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May 12 @ 10:04 PM ET
Sorry, I thought you were someone else
- SuperSchennBros

wut
SuperSchennBros
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May 12 @ 10:05 PM ET
Yeah, kind of why I suggested him as a possible back up. Why suggest somebody who isn't any good-or at least isn't as good as Emery?

Elliott has played well in St Louis, behind a very good defensive team. But I doubt there's many teams that would be eager to sign him as a starter.

- Jsaquella

You mean as eager as we were to take a chance on Mason on a poorly constructed defensive team, with Grossmann being a key piece?
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

May 12 @ 10:05 PM ET
I see I see.

Backreading is for squares anyway.

Definitely thought that little exchange at the top of this page had the potential to blossom into a lovely argument over a backup goalie

- Giroux_Is_God


Nah, just a discussion.

I'd be fine if Emery returned, but I'd like it to be for less money.
wilsonecho91
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A dream to some...a nightmare to others, AK
Joined: 11.13.2007

May 12 @ 10:07 PM ET
Who's head is that?

If it's Carcillo, whoever made this wins everything ever

- Giroux_Is_God

It is
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
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May 12 @ 10:08 PM ET
It is
- wilsonecho91

Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
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May 12 @ 10:08 PM ET
The Bruins were a really bad hockey team tonight
Pixote Andolini
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.23.2007

May 12 @ 10:10 PM ET
I think bringing Timonen back for one more year is a mistake. His speed is gone and he was never super fast. I think having him on the roster only hurts the Flyers. Gustafsson can make up for that loss in some capacity.
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