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ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

May 13 @ 10:12 AM ET
If the Pens do fail to close this out, who goes. The coach, the GM, both?
Deadstar
Joined: 06.29.2008

May 13 @ 10:14 AM ET
Whats up with the Trib writers pumping this "always losing to a lower seed" stat. Umm when you are at the top of the conference almost every year, that will happen. We just had an 8th seed go to a cup in the Flyers not long ago and an 8th seed win one in LA. Stat is so irrelevant.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

May 13 @ 10:15 AM ET
OK, sure!
- powerhouse


I wouldn't propose playing him tonight (NHL debut at the end of 3 games in 3 nights), but if they make it to the ECF, not a horrible idea.
Oneonta Penguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.02.2007

May 13 @ 10:15 AM ET
Time to trade crosby.. see what you can get for him,
you can only fire the coach so many times.

- 77emac77


You lose to Montreal, are you trading Bergeron?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

May 13 @ 10:16 AM ET
Whats up with the Trib writers pumping this "always losing to a lower seed" stat. Umm when you are at the top of the conference almost every year, that will happen. We just had an 8th seed go to a cup in the Flyers not long ago and an 8th seed win one in LA. Stat is so irrelevant.
- Deadstar


The Flyers were 7th. The actually hosted the ECF because #8 Montreal made it, as well.

Not a big deal, just sayin.
Deadstar
Joined: 06.29.2008

May 13 @ 10:17 AM ET
The Flyers were 7th. The actually hosted the ECF because #8 Montreal made it, as well.

Not a big deal, just sayin.

- jmatchett383


More evidence I guess.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

May 13 @ 10:17 AM ET
You lose to Montreal, are you trading Bergeron?
- Oneonta Penguin


Bergeron, Rask, Lucic, Marchand, Krejci, Hamilton, Chara...TRADE THEM ALL!!!!!!!!!
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

May 13 @ 10:17 AM ET
More evidence I guess.
- Deadstar


???
Deadstar
Joined: 06.29.2008

May 13 @ 10:18 AM ET
???
- jmatchett383


That seeding doesnt necessarily matter. A lot of teams lose to lower seeds every year
Oneonta Penguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.02.2007

May 13 @ 10:18 AM ET
U think Neal might be a "scapegoat" for the loss?
I can't see him being traded, that would be crazy. He's not part of the problem.

- jdfitz77


Neal is part of the problem, not all. The fact is Neal very well could be ticketed elsewhere, if this series ends in complete embarrassment. Losing a 3-1 lead to sorry, a lesser team, isn't good - especially the way this has unfolded.

However, a trade of Neal doesn't really do much for the roster. It doesn't make an impact. It doesn't change the culture. A deal of Letang would; a deal of Malkin would. Letting Stempniak, Orpik, and pick your UFA walk doesn't do it.
Oneonta Penguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.02.2007

May 13 @ 10:20 AM ET
Message sending protocol or not, Lucic should be suspended for Game 7 for sucker punching 2 guys late in that game.
- jmatchett383


He is a turd that repeatedly gets away with more suspendible offenses than 98% of the guys in the league.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

May 13 @ 10:21 AM ET
That seeding doesnt necessarily matter. A lot of teams lose to lower seeds every year
- Deadstar


Oh, absolutely.

Hey remember that time that the high seed lost to a lower seed? Man, what a choke job that was.
Oneonta Penguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.02.2007

May 13 @ 10:21 AM ET
Bergeron, Rask, Lucic, Marchand, Krejci, Hamilton, Chara...TRADE THEM ALL!!!!!!!!!
- jmatchett383



I see a few on that list I'd take. Then again, I see two that I wish would be face planted in the ice and driven over by a zamboni.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

May 13 @ 10:25 AM ET
Neal is part of the problem, not all. The fact is Neal very well could be ticketed elsewhere, if this series ends in complete embarrassment. Losing a 3-1 lead to sorry, a lesser team, isn't good - especially the way this has unfolded.

However, a trade of Neal doesn't really do much for the roster. It doesn't make an impact. It doesn't change the culture. A deal of Letang would; a deal of Malkin would. Letting Stempniak, Orpik, and pick your UFA walk doesn't do it.

- Oneonta Penguin


You know, I think this is what pisses off people about Penguins fans. You call basically every team a lesser team (save for maybe Boston). Well, news flash: if they beat you, it's possible (maybe possible) that they are a better team. Maybe they played poorly in the games you beat them. You may have the better high-profile superstars, but maybe they are a better TEAM top-to-bottom. It's like people in San Francisco county who think they're better because of their clean Earth/anti-corporation views. Just because you have a high-powered offense does not automatically make you a better team.
dbell646
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.13.2009

May 13 @ 10:25 AM ET
He is a turd that repeatedly gets away with more suspendible offenses than 98% of the guys in the league.
- Oneonta Penguin

I'd take him on this roster in a second
nbartley9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 01.31.2012

May 13 @ 10:26 AM ET
He is a turd that repeatedly gets away with more suspendible offenses than 98% of the guys in the league.
- Oneonta Penguin

Copyright infringement
dbell646
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.13.2009

May 13 @ 10:26 AM ET
You know, I think this is what pisses off people about Penguins fans. You call basically every team a lesser team (save for maybe Boston). Well, news flash: if they beat you, it's possible (maybe possible) that they are a better team. Maybe they played poorly in the games you beat them. You may have the better high-profile superstars, but maybe they are a better TEAM top-to-bottom. It's like people in San Francisco county who think they're better because of their lean Earth/anti-corporation views. Just because you have a high-powered offense does not automatically make you a better team.
- jmatchett383

Bolded must mean business
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

May 13 @ 10:27 AM ET
Bolded must mean business
- dbell646


I have since unbolded it. It was a typo.
Yonk1216
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Scranton, PA
Joined: 02.24.2011

May 13 @ 10:27 AM ET
I wouldn't propose playing him tonight (NHL debut at the end of 3 games in 3 nights), but if they make it to the ECF, not a horrible idea.
- jmatchett383


Heard somewhere that if he plays in the NHL playoffs this year it will burn an entire season of his entry level deal since technically it's past the 9 game window.

Not sure if it's true or not but you can play in the AHL playoffs as an ATO or Amateur tryout contract where you don't get paid and don't lose a season.... He should be heading to Providence as we speak to help Wilkes-Barre/Scranton on their way to trying to win a Calder Cup.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

May 13 @ 10:29 AM ET
Heard somewhere that if he plays in the NHL playoffs this year it will burn an entire season of his entry level deal since technically it's past the 9 game window.

Not sure if it's true or not but you can play in the AHL playoffs as an ATO or Amateur tryout contract where you don't get paid and don't lose a season.... He should be heading to Providence as we speak to help Wilkes-Barre/Scranton on their way to trying to win a Calder Cup.

- Yonk1216


That is true, if he plays an NHL game past the 9-game window (actually, if he plays 1 NHL game that doesn't include regular season Game #1), it burns a year. But yes, he could sign an ATO and play for WB/S. Still, I'd give him a day or 2 to rest, as he just played back-to-back playoff games.
nbartley9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 01.31.2012

May 13 @ 10:32 AM ET
I am truly at a crossroads with my feelings on tonight's game, while I so badly want Bylsma fired I don't want it to come at the cost of us losing another deciding home game. If there was a way for us to win the Stanley cup and still get Bylsma fired I am all for it, because after all he is a TURD.
dbell646
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.13.2009

May 13 @ 10:36 AM ET
I am truly at a crossroads with my feelings on tonight's game, while I so badly want Bylsma fired I don't want it to come at the cost of us losing another deciding home game. If there was a way for us to win the Stanley cup and still get Bylsma fired I am all for it, because after all he is a TURD.
- nbartley9

Yup tank job early next year
Emperor Filonius
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Drinking the tears of the defeated from Lord Stanley's chalice.
Joined: 01.18.2007

May 13 @ 10:37 AM ET
So while watching the end of the B's/Habs game and seeing the scrum that ensued... which IMO was way worse than anything that has happened in the Pens series.... Regis McGuire said "Bruins are just sending a message for game 7 letting Montreal know that were still here and we're going to come to play"..... My question is aside from an anti Penguins bias (even though he wouldn't have his name on the cup without them)....

Why when the pens engage in end of game extracurricular activities are we frustrated and melting down?.... While Iginla crosschecks a guy in the neck repeatedly.... Lucic punches a guy in the head...etc etc.... this is just hard nosed hockey and message sending.

Maybe Crosby was telling the Rags "You better be ready cause I'm going 150% for 60 minutes Tuesday night so try and legally stop me"

Sometimes I hate the NHL... love hockey... but hate the NHL

- Yonk1216



+1000.

Its a total double standard and just more of the "Penguins meltdown" narrative that people that don't like the team want to convey.
Ben37
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: One of the Most Respected Hockeybuzz Posters, AB
Joined: 04.07.2010

May 13 @ 10:38 AM ET
I'd take him on this roster in a second
- dbell646


Me too. Brian Boyle does not escape alive from that scrum with Lucic on Sid's wing.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

May 13 @ 10:38 AM ET
Yup tank job early next year
- dbell646


Well, that is the McDavid year...
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