- Tomahawk

They just keep falling for it... I understand if it's a newb, but when it's someone who's been here a while? You should know this dude's MO.

No point in wasting your breath.

Sure it made sense. I remember back to a conversation in the beginning of the season. Where you again stated that the Flyers can't score and won't score until they get better players. What did I say needed to happen? And what did happen?

Clearly, as I'll explain again, stating that Wing is the least important position on the ice, is not the same as saying the position is unimportant. Nor does it state that the Flyers couldn't use a better LW.

But in an effort for full disclosure, what it does mean is that the Flyers should focus first on the area of the team that is most important, before devoting any assets to the Wing. And that position, which is the biggest need, is defense. That is the entire point.


And the situation in Chicago has squat to do with it. Because if we had Keith and Seabrooke on the back end, along with what we have at Center, along with Mason. I'd be right there with you saying let's go out and get some better wingers! But that's not the case is it?
- MJL

So because we had a bunch of 20-goal scorers who couldn't score in the playoffs, we should be OK with it? The depth the Flyers have at center isn't offset by the weakness at the wing position, and the weakness the Flyers have on defense is harder to address -- that's the entire point!

In other words, and very simply: Where are you getting the defensemen from?

I'll answer that: You might not get one. Because there aren't enough to go around.

So trying to spin it that the wingers the Flyers have would be good enough because some of them scored 20 goals -- well, again, you were right: Some of them scored 20 goals.

And yet, they still weren't good enough when it mattered the most. And finding wingers will be easier than addressing the holes on the back end. We all know that.

sup
- Crimsoninja

Sup

They just keep falling for it... I understand if it's a newb, but when it's someone who's been here a while? You should know this dude's MO.

No point in wasting your breath.
- Yosimar89

Yeah, damn it.

Sorry.

They just keep falling for it... I understand if it's a newb, but when it's someone who's been here a while? You should know this dude's MO.

No point in wasting your breath.
- Yosimar89

Just so easy to get sucked in... all it takes is one innocuous response and the sarlacc's got you by the leg.

So, new topic

Hextall seemed to stress being strong up the middle. With D being so costly to upgrade (either in $$ or in assets), does he perhaps try to package B Schenn in a deal to acquire an impact center?

This of course assumes they are able to deal VL

Just so easy to get sucked in... all it takes is one innocuous response and the sarlacc's got you by the leg.
- Tomahawk

That's why I'd pay for an "Ignore" feature. Wouldn't bother me to be ignored, but Sweet Jesus, I'd love to be able to click that button and be done with it forever

It's gonna be a looooong (frank)ing off-season.
- tangent_man

What do you mean, "gonna be"?

So, new topic

Hextall seemed to stress being strong up the middle. With D being so costly to upgrade (either in $$ or in assets), does he perhaps try to package B Schenn in a deal to acquire an impact center?

This of course assumes they are able to deal VL
- BiggE

Are there any centers in particular that you like?

What do you mean, "gonna be"?
- Jsaquella

Jesus... nobody told him yet...

Hurry, back under the rock!

What do you mean, "gonna be"?
- Jsaquella

Can you let me have some illusions, dammit?

Weber/Subban
Kimmo/Pronger
Hagg/Ghost

So, new topic

Hextall seemed to stress being strong up the middle. With D being so costly to upgrade (either in $$ or in assets), does he perhaps try to package B Schenn in a deal to acquire an impact center?

This of course assumes they are able to deal VL
- BiggE

Mike Richards will return
E4
Bradyn Schenn and two first should get it done

Where will you be when Patrick Kane wins his third cup
Or Where will you be when Danny Briere wins the cup
Or Where will you be when Sidney Crosby wins another Cup
Or Where will you be when Mike Richards and Jeff Carter snort coke off the cup

Weber/Subban
Kimmo/Pronger
Hagg/Ghost
- Winning

Morin>Hagg

Morin>Hagg
- Crimsoninja

How do you think Pronger recovered? Morin has been used for parts

Chris Pronger 2.0 isn't ready yet
- Winning

ok ob

ok ob
- Crimsoninja

see proper edit

Can you let me have some illusions, dammit?
- tangent_man

Where will you be when Patrick Kane wins his third cup
Or Where will you be when Danny Briere wins the cup
Or Where will you be when Sidney Crosby wins another Cup
Or Where will you be when Mike Richards and Jeff Carter snort coke off the cup
- Winning

Well, when the last thing happened I was drinking in the Princeton in Avalon, like, twenty feet away

So because we had a bunch of 20-goal scorers who couldn't score in the playoffs, we should be OK with it? The depth the Flyers have at center isn't offset by the weakness at the wing position, and the weakness the Flyers have on defense is harder to address -- that's the entire point!

In other words, and very simply: Where are you getting the defensemen from?

I'll answer that: You might not get one. Because there aren't enough to go around.

So trying to spin it that the wingers the Flyers have would be good enough because some of them scored 20 goals -- well, again, you were right: Some of them scored 20 goals.

And yet, they still weren't good enough when it mattered the most. And finding wingers will be easier than addressing the holes on the back end. We all know that.
- AllInForFlyers

I didn't say a word about the Flyers wingers being good enough, or anything about having 7 20 goal scorers. I simply said stated a number of factors in why I think the Flyers priority should be addressing the needs that I view are more important. And assigning a priority to those needs. And that priority is defense. I would like the Flyers to add a winger with some speed or skill. Or have a player such as Akeson work out. That would be great. You took my post and completely misinterpreted it into the Flyers wingers are good enough, and they don't need to do anything there, and that the Wing position is not important. And that interpretation was completely wrong. Because statements I made in my post, which you completely ignored was "it would be great to add a dynamic LW", and "I'm not against shoring up that spot if the assets are available, but not to the detriment of other needs".

So, new topic

Hextall seemed to stress being strong up the middle. With D being so costly to upgrade (either in $$ or in assets), does he perhaps try to package B Schenn in a deal to acquire an impact center?

This of course assumes they are able to deal VL
- BiggE

I'd rather keep B Schenn then to add a high cap hit Center.

Are there any centers in particular that you like?
- AllInForFlyers

Its a real pipe dream but I wouldn't mind trying to trade up into the top 3 if I could grab Draisaitl. I think that kid is going to be a star.

Brandon Bollig gets two games

Can you let me have some illusions, dammit?
- tangent_man