I would hate to see the coach and the GM get turfed. If your best players can't rise to the occasion, then you need new best players, with a winning mentality. There is a saying that goes "when the game is on the line, winners want the ball". When I read that Thornton was invisible for four games, it highlights the issue.
- Alpamayo91

Coach oversaw the collapse and seemed powerless to do anything about but he's a pretty good bench boss just the same.

The GM - I'd fire his ass immediately. On what basis can he justify extending the contracts of Thornton and Marleau in January. For what - getting them motivated for this year's playoffs? Now they are stuck with both of them after just another excruciating loss.

Wilson and his lovely white dress shirts needs to be relocated.

This may be what happens, but it will not solve the problem ...... unfortunatley it is not possible to solve the problem easily ..... how do you get rid of Jumbo Joe and Patric Marleau????
- GadesnSens

Even with their usual playoffs problems, I'm sure there would be plenty of teams interested in both players.

Lols at Joe Thornton that pos. Too bad for sharks fans and the rest of the team, but this couldn't happen to a more deserving guy than Thornton.
- kaptaan

Looked at this post and was WTF? Then saw it was you.....wasnt surprising....you really are a piece of work...

Wondering what do the Sharks need to do in off-season to get past the 1st rd?
Since the Sharks didn't use any compliance buy-outs, would they be used on Havlat & Kennedy, that's additional $7.3M more to use in FA or resigning some players. The core roster is intact and signed, plus your gonna have almost $20M in FA to spend (after 2 buyouts) should benefit for next year.

Wondering what do the Sharks need to do in off-season to get past the 1st rd?
Since the Sharks didn't use any compliance buy-outs, would they be used on Havlat & Kennedy, that's additional $7.3M more to use in FA or resigning some players. The core roster is intact and signed, plus your gonna have almost $20M in FA to spend (after 2 buyouts) should benefit for next year.
- Ur Not Me

Not sure they use buyouts. They are structured to make money only if they go a round or two in the playoffs. They wont want to throw any money away. They obviously still need some tweaks. Will be interesting to see what they do.

This may be what happens, but it will not solve the problem ...... unfortunatley it is not possible to solve the problem easily ..... how do you get rid of Jumbo Joe and Patric Marleau????
- GadesnSens

You call Shanahan in Toronto and say "Send us Kadri and a first for whoever you like"

This may be what happens, but it will not solve the problem ...... unfortunatley it is not possible to solve the problem easily ..... how do you get rid of Jumbo Joe and Patric Marleau????
- GadesnSens

Marleau is not the problem, he played great. Had a ton of good chances he was basically making himself out there.

Joe needs to go, if they drop Boyle and trade Thorton they could easily fit in some impact players with that cap space.

UFA/Trade-Pavelski-Marleau
Hertl-Couture-Burns
Nieto-Wingels-Havlat
Torres-Kennedy-Sheppard

Vlasic-Braun
Demers-UFA/trade
Stuart-Irwin

Niemi
Stalock

Looks like almost as strong a roster, to me - especially dependant on the quality of FA they can get for those two open spots.

Even with their usual playoffs problems, I'm sure there would be plenty of teams interested in both players.
- Scabeh

Teams would take them in a second, but not to be the "leaders" more of a great secondary roles... They will still be great players, just not the one to take it by the horns and win you a playoff series.

Coach oversaw the collapse and seemed powerless to do anything about but he's a pretty good bench boss just the same.

The GM - I'd fire his ass immediately. On what basis can he justify extending the contracts of Thornton and Marleau in January. For what - getting them motivated for this year's playoffs? Now they are stuck with both of them after just another excruciating loss.

Wilson and his lovely white dress shirts needs to be relocated.
- RickJ

Wilson has done an amazing job with that team.

They've been at the top of the league for how long now, and he still has managed to add Pavelski, Couture, Hertl, Wingels, Nieto, Vlasic, Demers, Braun through the draft, with still more prospects coming up - and Burns and Niemi through trade/FA.

If the worst mistake your GM made is extending Thorton/Marleau for 3 years, he's a pretty good (frank)ing GM.

Hell, if he decides to, he can EASILY trade a top line center with 3 years/6.5 per on his contract to another team for a great return.

Marleau is not the problem, he played great. Had a ton of good chances he was basically making himself out there.

Joe needs to go, if they drop Boyle and trade Thorton they could easily fit in some impact players with that cap space.

UFA/Trade-Pavelski-Marleau
Hertl-Couture-Burns
Nieto-Wingels-Havlat
Torres-Kennedy-Sheppard

Vlasic-Braun
Demers-UFA/trade
Stuart-Irwin


Niemi
Stalock

Looks like almost as strong a roster, to me - especially dependant on the quality of FA they can get for those two open spots.
- TommyDeVito

Trade Thorton and Niemi for picks, prospects and a goalie (Reimer?, Holtby?) and sign Moulson. Fixed

Just ignore the guys who get off by grinding salt into the wound.
- spatso

Just so you know, I NEVER rub salt, but many of my Sharks friends were really talking all sorts when it was 3-0.

Wilson has done an amazing job with that team.

They've been at the top of the league for how long now, and he still has managed to add Pavelski, Couture, Hertl, Wingels, Nieto, Vlasic, Demers, Braun through the draft, with still more prospects coming up - and Burns and Niemi through trade/FA.

If the worst mistake your GM made is extending Thorton/Marleau for 3 years, he's a pretty good (frank)ing GM.

Hell, if he decides to, he can EASILY trade a top line center with 3 years/6.5 per on his contract to another team for a great return.
- TommyDeVito

Good points. I think sharks need a stronger captain............wont do Joe any good to be demoted so hes really the only one thats gotta go IMO. Marleau played great last night he didn't bury his chances but he was taking good shots. This is a great team that needs a captain with more confidence

I know what the fans are going through. Spent years going through it. So that being said, the real reason I came on here was to say Suck it San Jose!!!!! Try being more nice to Kings fans that are visiting SAP. Better luck next year.

I know what the fans are going through. Spent years going through it. So that being said, the real reason I came on here was to say Suck it San Jose!!!!! Try being more nice to Kings fans that are visiting SAP. Better luck next year.
- lakings35

Since I know futility because I lived it for 30+ years as a Kings fan
I won't pile on. I hope the Kings can ride this to the cup finals and win another cup.
Stupid comment saying Muzzin was a pretender though.
Grasping I say!

Good points. I think sharks need a stronger captain............wont do Joe any good to be demoted so hes really the only one thats gotta go IMO. Marleau played great last night he didn't bury his chances but he was taking good shots. This is a great team that needs a captain with more confidence
- dprice818

My opinion exactly.

I'd try to move joe to St Louis for Shattenkirk or Backes, see if they do something desperate after a bad rd 1.

Wilson has done an amazing job with that team.

They've been at the top of the league for how long now, and he still has managed to add Pavelski, Couture, Hertl, Wingels, Nieto, Vlasic, Demers, Braun through the draft, with still more prospects coming up - and Burns and Niemi through trade/FA.

If the worst mistake your GM made is extending Thorton/Marleau for 3 years, he's a pretty good (frank)ing GM.

Hell, if he decides to, he can EASILY trade a top line center with 3 years/6.5 per on his contract to another team for a great return.
- TommyDeVito

Agree with you on Wilson. The man can certainly draft - Hertl and Nieto....

The issue is with Todd and Jumbo Joe. Never realized what a playoff choker Thornton was until I read Tessier's blog today. - 25 in career playoff games.

Rangers would probably trade for him to combine with Nash. Cap fit?

Thornton is not the problem, the coach is. TM has shown year after year he can't take this team to the light, only to the early end. TM is also the quickest problem to fix. The Sharks have proven year after year that they can play, they've finished the regular season close to the top every season since...I can't remember that far back. They have great players and a great on-ice chemistry. TMac is the issue, he can't match lines during the game and that's fine, but not being able to adjust between the games is a major flaw...insanity comes to mind here, you know...doing the same thing expecting a different result?

If they get rid of TMac and concentrate on finding a coach that has the ability to make quick changes (in-games ala Babcock or between games ala Sutter) and see the game as a friggin game, not a play, they will advance.

Trotz is available but I don't believe he's any better than TMac. Sorry Shark fans, Kings rule and the Ducks are next...it will be a similar feeling for the Kings player because I'm sure they'll hear the family friendly "Beat L.A" chants again.

Agree with you on Wilson. The man can certainly draft - Hertl and Nieto....

The issue is with Todd and Jumbo Joe. Never realized what a playoff choker Thornton was until I read Tessier's blog today. - 25 in career playoff games.

Rangers would probably trade for him to combine with Nash. Cap fit?
- tredbrta

Yeah he can certainly draft you named 2 players with decent impact he has drafted in 9 yrs.

Remember these names
Lukas Kaspar, Milan Michakel, Steve Bernier, Ty Wishart, Logan Couture, Nick Petrecki, None, None, Charlie Coyle, Tomas Hertl, Mirco Muller. So yes he has done okay with forwards. His first round Defenseman he has drafted Wishart, Petrecki and now Muller are another story all together. He did draft Vlassic in the 2nd round in his first draft so I will give him credit for that.

And lets us remember his great trades that led to Anahiem getting Nick Bonino for Bill Guerin, and Minnesota getting Charlie Coyle and Danny Heatley.

Wilson has done an amazing job with that team.

They've been at the top of the league for how long now, and he still has managed to add Pavelski, Couture, Hertl, Wingels, Nieto, Vlasic, Demers, Braun through the draft, with still more prospects coming up - and Burns and Niemi through trade/FA.

If the worst mistake your GM made is extending Thorton/Marleau for 3 years, he's a pretty good (frank)ing GM.

Hell, if he decides to, he can EASILY trade a top line center with 3 years/6.5 per on his contract to another team for a great return.
- TommyDeVito

Yep an amazing job. He traded a 2nd for Tyler Kennedy last year saying he was the missing playoff piece (Kennedy healthy scratched every game). He traded for Martin Havlat (Danny Heatley) who has played less then half the games he could because of injuries. He traded for Scott Hannon last off season and resigned both him and Brad Stuart. The Great GM signed Adam Burish to a 3 yr deal as a FA, proclaiming that Burish was the missing piece for the Sharks in the playoffs. He inherited a team that had already drafted Marleau, Pavelski and had many pieces such as Nabokov, Stuart already on the team. And to this day he has never drafted or produced an NHL starting goalie, or a potential Norris winning defense man.

Wilson had a great team and great potential handed to him, he made two good trades one for Dan Boyle and another for Danny Heatley whom he then gave away. Wilson SJ legency though will be his trade for Joe Thornton almost 8 years ago. This might be both the best and worst moves he ever made.

Man I thought this was San Jose's year - pretty shocked right now!!

But the sens werent a great team.
- Fakepartofme

Apparently neither are were the Sharks this year

Get a goalie San jose

Yep an amazing job. He traded a 2nd for Tyler Kennedy last year saying he was the missing playoff piece (Kennedy healthy scratched every game). He traded for Martin Havlat (Danny Heatley) who has played less then half the games he could because of injuries. He traded for Scott Hannon last off season and resigned both him and Brad Stuart. The Great GM signed Adam Burish to a 3 yr deal as a FA, proclaiming that Burish was the missing piece for the Sharks in the playoffs. He inherited a team that had already drafted Marleau, Pavelski and had many pieces such as Nabokov, Stuart already on the team. And to this day he has never drafted or produced an NHL starting goalie, or a potential Norris winning defense man.

Wilson had a great team and great potential handed to him, he made two good trades one for Dan Boyle and another for Danny Heatley whom he then gave away. Wilson SJ legency though will be his trade for Joe Thornton almost 8 years ago. This might be both the best and worst moves he ever made.
- Sharkfan48

I really couldn't believe it when the Sharks announcers were saying one game that the Kings are good now because of former Sharks management, like the Sharks due credit for it somehow. It's exactly like you said, Wilson inherited a very solid team from Lombardi.

Trade Thorton and Niemi for picks, prospects and a goalie (Reimer?, Holtby?) and sign Moulson. Fixed
- Dgmilazz

Why would we want picks and prospects?

Why would we want picks and prospects?
- FinAddict

If you have seen our prospect list and watched the Worcester team you would know why. The Kings minor league system has been rock solid now for years. You can never have enough solid prospects, which come from draft picks.